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Scout’s Eye: More Notes From Senior Bowl Practices; Standouts From North Team
Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:05 PM CST
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By Bryan Broaddus Football Analyst/Scout @BryanBroaddus

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IRVING, Texas – We’re back from the Reese’s Senior Bowl practices in Mobile, Ala., but I’ve only just begun to break down the prospects we watched there.

Here are some of my refined impressions from watching the North squad practice this week. I’ll have notes on the South squad on Friday.

  • As this draft process starts out, keep an eye on Stanford’s defensive end, Henry Anderson. He wasn’t a player that was initially on my radar before I made the trip to Mobile, but after studying his work from the practices, I have to admit he got my attention.

    At 6-6, 287, he might be more of an end in a 3-4 defense than an edge rusher in a 4-3. But what I liked about the player was his ability to come off the ball and use his hands to control the blocker. There were several snaps in the one-on-one pass rush drills where he was able to fire those hands inside, grab the blocker and disengage to get up the field. Anderson also plays with some surprising power to the point where he is driving the blocker back into the quarterback.

    He managed to play this way with Jamal Douglas and Robert Myers when they tried to sit down on him. Later in the drill, Anderson lined up on the outside shoulder of center Max Garcia and quickly beat him to his snapping hand to gain a pressure. There were no negative plays from him in the opportunities that I saw.

  • My experience in going to these Senior Bowl practices tells me that there will be times when coaches would like to see a player move from his natural, college position to one that might better suit him in the NFL game.
  • Last year, Michael Sam worked as an outside linebacker and it didn’t go well for him in that look. This year there are a couple of different players that fit this bill in Auburn quarterback Nick Marshall at corner and Harvard’s Zack Hodges at outside linebacker.

    The player I want to focus on is Hodges, who played as a defensive end for the Crimson. At 6-2, 245, he might not have the ideal weight as, say Nate Orchard or Markus Golden, but in studying his game tape from Harvard he can bring the same amount of pressure off the edge. I was surprised by how well Hodges was able to move in space while dropping in coverage but also how well he reacted out of the drop.

    The only fault that I observed in his coverage was there was a lack of feel in the way he covered, and what I mean is when the receiver took him up the field he just wasn’t near enough to feel when the receiver was breaking the route off. This is more about a lack of experience than it was bad technique. I could see a team using Hodges as a strong side linebacker in a base defense, then having him put his hand on the ground and rush out of the nickel.
http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2...es-senior-bowl-practices-standouts-north-team
 

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As this draft process starts out, keep an eye on Stanford’s defensive end, Henry Anderson. He wasn’t a player that was initially on my radar before I made the trip to Mobile, but after studying his work from the practices, I have to admit he got my attention.

At 6-6, 287, he might be more of an end in a 3-4 defense than an edge rusher in a 4-3. But what I liked about the player was his ability to come off the ball and use his hands to control the blocker. There were several snaps in the one-on-one pass rush drills where he was able to fire those hands inside, grab the blocker and disengage to get up the field. Anderson also plays with some surprising power to the point where he is driving the blocker back into the quarterback.

He managed to play this way with Jamal Douglas and Robert Myers when they tried to sit down on him. Later in the drill, Anderson lined up on the outside shoulder of center Max Garcia and quickly beat him to his snapping hand to gain a pressure. There were no negative plays from him in the opportunities that I saw.

Typical of this time of year, Broaddus says something opposite of other draft pundits. I have read elsewhere the Anderson has been poor in drills and spent too much time on the ground. And what Broaddus uses as positives is beating lower tier players like Douglas, Myers and especially Garcia.
 

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As this draft process starts out, keep an eye on Stanford’s defensive end, Henry Anderson. He wasn’t a player that was initially on my radar before I made the trip to Mobile, but after studying his work from the practices, I have to admit he got my attention.



Typical of this time of year, Broaddus says something opposite of other draft pundits. I have read elsewhere the Anderson has been poor in drills and spent too much time on the ground. And what Broaddus uses as positives is beating lower tier players like Douglas, Myers and especially Garcia.

I always take Broadudus' scouting reports with a grain of salt considering our draft "successes" with him on board as a paid evaluator. Appreciate the effort dude, but there's a reason you're not getting paid by an NFL team to evaluate talent anymore.
 

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As this draft process starts out, keep an eye on Stanford’s defensive end, Henry Anderson. He wasn’t a player that was initially on my radar before I made the trip to Mobile, but after studying his work from the practices, I have to admit he got my attention.



Typical of this time of year, Broaddus says something opposite of other draft pundits. I have read elsewhere the Anderson has been poor in drills and spent too much time on the ground. And what Broaddus uses as positives is beating lower tier players like Douglas, Myers and especially Garcia.

It's HIS opinion, FWIW, good or bad. He did see the player up close.
 
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So what kind of scout was Broadus employed as? Sometimes I read articles and posts from "scouts" that i disagreed with that were later demonstrably incorrect and I wonder if their "scout" resposibilities were nothing more than data gathering off of film.
 

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I always take Broadudus' scouting reports with a grain of salt considering our draft "successes" with him on board as a paid evaluator. Appreciate the effort dude, but there's a reason you're not getting paid by an NFL team to evaluate talent anymore.

He's still going to give us more knowledge than any other mediot out there. Including what the Cowboys are looking for. Doesn't mean he's always going to be accurate but it's still better than what Goose, Mel Kiper or Mike Mayock give us.
 

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He's still going to give us more knowledge than any other mediot out there. Including what the Cowboys are looking for. Doesn't mean he's always going to be accurate but it's still better than what Goose, Mel Kiper or Mike Mayock give us.

Which is why, in my post, I referenced that I appreciated his effort. :thumbup:
 

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He's still going to give us more knowledge than any other mediot out there. Including what the Cowboys are looking for. Doesn't mean he's always going to be accurate but it's still better than what Goose, Mel Kiper or Mike Mayock give us.

If someone still refers to "mediots" that tells me they need to broaden their horizons a little.

There are plenty of good follows on Twiter and other outlets. You can then take all the information and formulate an opinion.

Sure, Broaddus is great compared to "mediots" but honestly, if you pay attention to most "mediots", and use them as measuring sticks that is the biggest problem you have.
 

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As this draft process starts out, keep an eye on Stanford’s defensive end, Henry Anderson. He wasn’t a player that was initially on my radar before I made the trip to Mobile, but after studying his work from the practices, I have to admit he got my attention.



Typical of this time of year, Broaddus says something opposite of other draft pundits. I have read elsewhere the Anderson has been poor in drills and spent too much time on the ground. And what Broaddus uses as positives is beating lower tier players like Douglas, Myers and especially Garcia.

I have watched every senior bowl practice and Anderson has definitely been one of the best in the one on one drills. He was blasting people back and looked quick. Today was his worst day.
 

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I have watched every senior bowl practice and Anderson has definitely been one of the best in the one on one drills. He was blasting people back and looked quick. Today was his worst day.

It is just like the "practice reports" in training camp. Often conflicting. Which is why you look yourself first, then get as much as you can from reports whenever possible.
 

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I remember a few years ago someone on this site posted a review of the senior bowl. The guy described Elvis Dumervil as having a BEER BELLY. Haha. Guess what? That was just his body shape and he turned out to be awesome! :)
 

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It is just like the "practice reports" in training camp. Often conflicting. Which is why you look yourself first, then get as much as you can from reports whenever possible.

Interesting about Hodges. If Broaddus is accurate, that's a type of player that could contribute day #1 for us.

Watched Diggs for 4 years and I love what he can do. I would snatch him up in the 3rd without second thought if he was still there.
 

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He's still going to give us more knowledge than any other mediot out there. Including what the Cowboys are looking for. Doesn't mean he's always going to be accurate but it's still better than what Goose, Mel Kiper or Mike Mayock give us.

Agreed.

Everyone in the NFL is collectively about 50% correct for round 1 speaking very generally. Not across all positions but the point it is hit and miss for all. So don't think the scouts are going to be that accurate although some more than others obviously.

For the average fan it's enough to just read about players getting a feel for them in a broad sense. Those who wish can delve deeper.

Brian gives us fodder for the offseason. It's up to each reader on how seriously to take his word.
 

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I have watched every senior bowl practice and Anderson has definitely been one of the best in the one on one drills. He was blasting people back and looked quick. Today was his worst day.

Wow! Could you share some thoughts with us if comfortable?
 

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I remember a few years ago someone on this site posted a review of the senior bowl. The guy described Elvis Dumervil as having a BEER BELLY. Haha. Guess what? That was just his body shape and he turned out to be awesome!

That review came from draftcountdown.com.
 

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Despite all the skepticism Broaddus gets here, Dane Brugler came up with much the same report on Stanford's DE, Henry Anderson, that Broaddus did. Broaddus may be a tad suspect regarding his judgments but Brugler is usually pretty knowledgable with his evaluations. Between the two of them, they might well be quite correct.
 

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Wow! Could you share some thoughts with us if comfortable?

I cant tell if you are being sarcastic or not, also I wasn't at senior bowl, I just tuned into NFL networks measly segment. Anyway, sarcasm or not ill throw in my two cents on players that stood out. I may miss a few people that did well or poor, so this list isn't inclusive.

You don't really get to see which qb is throwing during cb vs wr drills, but Petty had a really nice throw on 9 vs 7 that stood out. He also took too long on a red zone drill to get rid of the ball and the coaches were talking about.

David Cobb from Minnesota looked good, and the announcers reflected that sentiment. But since its not full contact it was hard to tell. Still, he seems to have soft hands and looks like he can break tackles.

Sammy Coates from Auburn is a big, powerful fast receiver. He had a few drops, but he caught with his hands well at times. I have heard he could be a 3rd rounder, but I bet he tears up combine and sneaks into 2nd

Dorsett from Miami is a burner, guy put on some quick jukes in redzone drills and stretched the field. They said he ran a 4.21 at Miami, but we will see

Josh Harper out of Fresno st didn't look special to me. He had no shimmy when he tried to shake wr

Clive Walford out of Miami is the best tight end there. Fast, good hands.

Devin Mahina out of BYU had a nice Gronk spike after catching ball in redzone drills

Max Garcia out of Florida and Laken Tomlinson from DUke were the best guards there. Ali Marpet out of Hobart a D3 school held his own a few times, kind of impressive. Rob Havenstein had a poor day one but really settled down, he is a massive man. TJ clemmings out of Pitt looked a bit raw, but athletic.

Like I said, I liked Henry Anderson out of Standford quite a bit. He bull rushed a few tackles with ease. Seemed to have a good get off.

Carl Davis out of Iowa has looked pretty good... but I am not as into him as other posters I have seen here.

Kikaha out of Washington didn't impress me so much, he got engulfed a few times and is probably a little light.

ZaDarius Smith out of Kentucky is interesting. I am not sure I like him but he keeps making plays. Seems decently strong, decently athletic, has a nice spin move.

DAnny Shelton out of Washington is a load, very strong. He was gassed pretty easily one day, though. Is supposed to be top ten pick, though.

Nate Orchard out of Utah showed off his speed and even a bit of power. If I recall right his first day was rough, but he was definitely looking like one of the most talented pass rushers there by yesterday. There is a lot of hate over him, and yes he is a bit skinny. But he put up numbers.

I like Preston Smith out of Mississippi. Big and strong, I know he played some DT/NT and Mississippi at 270 lbs. I could definitely see him replace Spencer.

Odighizuwa out of UCLA I honestly cant remember much of. I know I like him as a prospect though...

I was mad because they were moving Lynden Trail from Norfolk st around so much I only got to see him rush the passer once, albeit it wasn't good. He played Tight end once and caught a contested ball. And then on 9 on 7 tipped and intercepted a ball. he is definitely an athletic freak.

The corners were hard to judge, it really wasn't fair 1 v 1 no qb pressure. Anyway, Kevin White out of TCU has good ball skills when the ball is in the air, but his closing speed seemed a tad off. Josh Shaw from USC had a few ok coverages, he seems to have good top end speed, his hips may be tight. Announcers were talking about Rollins out of Miami, he was a PG last year and only played one year at CB, I saw him get beat deep a few times.

Cody Prewitt Saftety out of ole miss had a few good battles with the tight ends in the redzone. He was really the only guy to stop any of them, but then in 9 on 7 a ball hit him in the belt and he wasn't alert enough to catch it.
 
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Not sarcastic at all. We appreciate your input. I'll have to look the players up but we have a lot of draftniks.
 
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