Delta: Get off this flight or you’re going to jail and your kids will be taken away

[CyberB0b]

Yeah telling someone he is going to jail and will lose his kids over a seat is just OK with you.

Rules are established for a reason. When you purchase a ticket, you agree to abide by those rules. I'd you don't, you should go to jail.

 

[yimyammer]

When you purchase a ticket, you agree to abide by those rules. I'd you don't, you should go to jail.

what the....

thx for the lulz CB

 

[Tabascocat]

Now a guy is trying to sue because he was seated between two obese people

 

[Hoofbite]

Rules are established for a reason. When you purchase a ticket, you agree to abide by those rules. I'd you don't, you should go to jail.

For what reason was the rule that an airline can kick someone off the plane for overbooking established?

 

[joseephuss]

Rules are established for a reason. When you purchase a ticket, you agree to abide by those rules. I'd you don't, you should go to jail.

What rules exactly? These rules weren't mentioned when they checked in. These rules were not brought to the passengers attention at the gate prior to boarding. The flight attendant mentioned a few rules, but some of those have proven to be either incorrectly cited or downright lies. Let's not act as if this family wasn't complying. They did after all exit the plane. Are you upset they didn't do so in a timid, docile fashion? The guy remained pretty calm throughout, in my opinion. He wasn't belligerent or threatening in any way. There is nothing in his actions that deserves jail time. That is a ridiculous notion.

 

[TheKey]

What rules exactly? These rules weren't mentioned when they checked in. These rules were not brought to the passengers attention at the gate prior to boarding. The flight attendant mentioned a few rules, but some of those have proven to be either incorrectly cited or downright lies. Let's not act as if this family wasn't complying. They did after all exit the plane. Are you upset they didn't do so in a timid, docile fashion? The guy remained pretty calm throughout, in my opinion. He wasn't belligerent or threatening in any way. There is nothing in his actions that deserves jail time. That is a ridiculous notion.

The flight crew can kick you off for any reason they want. If you refuse to get off you are breaking the rules. In your opinion, what should happen in that case? Obviously forcibly removing them is out. Telling them they will go to jail upon landing is out. What should be done? The inmates are running the asylum at this point.

After the United fiasco the Airlines are on high alert for bad PR. They didn't just kick this guy off for no reason. There's more to the story and I have a feeling someone was looking to take a small issue and amplify it due to recent events, so he cocked an attitude with the flight crew to make a point.

 

[Sarge]

Complaining about airlines is the flavor of the week.

 

[haleyrules]

For what reason was the rule that an airline can kick someone off the plane for overbooking established?

Amen. Its a fixed fight and the airlines have abused their clients for years.

 

[Hoofbite]

The flight crew can kick you off for any reason they want. If you refuse to get off you are breaking the rules. In your opinion, what should happen in that case? Obviously forcibly removing them is out. Telling them they will go to jail upon landing is out. What should be done? The inmates are running the asylum at this point.

Not quite. They aren't exempt from the laws any other business has to abide by. Try kicking a person off specifically because they're a woman or specifically because they're a minority. Probably doesn't matter what the TOS say, they're gonna lose that battle.

I get what you're saying but the fact that they can even claim to some all-encompassing right to remove someone from the plane is just ridiculous. What if their rules stated that situations involving overbooking would be settled by a game of rochambeau and if either party refused to kick then both passengers get tossed? Just because airlines can unilaterally make rules that the public is obligated to abide by regardless of how ridiculous doesn't mean airlines are in the "right". People shouldn't have their vacations and or travel plans subject to the airlines inability to hold up their end of the bargain.

As for what should happen, a good start would be to prevent these situations by not asking people to get off the plane for absolutely no reason. Start there and all that's left are people who should be forcibly removed.

 

[TheKey]

Not quite. They aren't exempt from the laws any other business has to abide by. Try kicking a person off specifically because they're a woman or specifically because they're a minority. Probably doesn't matter what the TOS say, they're gonna lose that battle.

I get what you're saying but the fact that they can even claim to some all-encompassing right to remove someone from the plane is just ridiculous. What if their rules stated that situations involving overbooking would be settled by a game of rochambeau and if either party refused to kick then both passengers get tossed? Just because airlines can unilaterally make rules that the public is obligated to abide by regardless of how ridiculous doesn't mean airlines are in the "right". People shouldn't have their vacations and or travel plans subject to the airlines inability to hold up their end of the bargain.

As for what should happen, a good start would be to prevent these situations by not asking people to get off the plane for absolutely no reason. Start there and all that's left are people who should be forcibly removed.

Good post. My thing is though that we don't know that this is for no reason. I doubt delta would do it for no reason, especially knowing people are sensitive to this right now. Overbooking is a reason, if that's what caused it. In a post 9-11 world, refusing to get off an airplane when lawfully asked to do so is a recipe for disaster. I guess the real problem here is that people know making a scene is probably the only way their grievance will be taken seriously in today's world. You need to have a ton of followers to successfully lodge a complaint.

 

[arglebargle]

Common Sense. So rare, it's a superpower.....

 

[joseephuss]

The flight crew can kick you off for any reason they want. If you refuse to get off you are breaking the rules. In your opinion, what should happen in that case? Obviously forcibly removing them is out. Telling them they will go to jail upon landing is out. What should be done? The inmates are running the asylum at this point.

After the United fiasco the Airlines are on high alert for bad PR. They didn't just kick this guy off for no reason. There's more to the story and I have a feeling someone was looking to take a small issue and amplify it due to recent events, so he cocked an attitude with the flight crew to make a point.

I have no problem with someone being forcibly removed from a plane if the situation warrants such actions. There have been plenty of cases in the past where the airlines and authorities had just cause to forcibly removing someone from a flight. That hasn't been the case lately.

I have a problem with "The flight crew can kick you off for any reason they want." There have to be legitimate reasons. The airlines also have to do their part to avoid these situations before the passengers board the plane or be better at finding some amicable solutions. In this Delta case they should have matched names to tickets before they got on the plane. I think charging them a fee to change the name on the ticket probably could have been an option as well. The family did get off the plane, so there is no reason to put them in jail.

 

[MileyDancer]

This needs to end. Compliance with crew member instructions is required by federal law. These people need to be prosecuted, or there will be safety of flight issues going forward and the lack of respect for flight crews is disturbing.

He paid for the seat, right? If so, the airline is totally in the wrong here.