Denver Post: Vick seen in a different light (Witten, Glymph quotes)

Angus

Active Member
Messages
5,097
Reaction score
20
Veal sees Vick in a different light
Former teammates of the embattled Atlanta quarterback paint a different picture than federal prosecutors do.

By Mike Klis
Denver Post Staff Writer
Article Last Updated: 08/17/2007 05:52:41 PM MDT

Irving, Texas - As the world around Michael Vick was threatening to shrink to a steel-barred cell, he received a call from his good friend Demetrin Veal.

A teammate of Vick's with the Atlanta Falcons in 2003, Veal is trying to hang in for a third season as a Broncos defensive tackle. Veal may be on the roster bubble in Denver, and his recent knee injury isn't going to help.

But fighting for a job isn't as stressful as his friend's fight for freedom. As of Thursday evening, Vick was engaged in plea-bargain negotiations with federal prosecutors that could result in eight to 12 months of jail time following allegations he financed an illegal, high-stakes, dogfighting enterprise.

"I think they're coming down hard on him," Veal said Thursday after the Broncos' afternoon practice with the Dallas Cowboys. "The man knows he made a mistake, but they're making him out to be a monster right now. He's not that bad of a guy. He's a nice person who got caught up in a bad situation. I talked to him and gave him my support."

There has been growing sentiment that if Vick goes to jail, others who invested in him will also be punished.

NFL sponsors have invested heavily in Vick's star appeal. The Falcons gave their quarterback a record 10-year, $130 million contract on Christmas Eve in 2004. The team showed its belief in Vick again during the offseason, when it traded away his promising backup, Matt Schaub. Fans who love to watch an athlete perform unprecedented feats developed an emotional attachment to Vick.

"Looking at it from a player's perspective, you want to give the guy the benefit of the doubt because he's done so much for this game," Dallas tight end Jason Witten said. "This may be a bold statement, but I don't know if there's a player out there that has more talent than he does. He's so physically gifted.

"But, unfortunately, he got himself in a situation where it's going to be tough to get out of. I really don't know what to think because there isn't a player in this league who doesn't understand how things can get blown out of proportion a little bit. But at the same time, we have rules and he's a role model - a face of this NFL, one of them. So that hurts. I think it hurts all of us."

Details of the indictment against Vick have incited a different emotion. Allegations his operation sometimes executed poor-performing dogs through electrocution, hanging, drowning or other cruel means have fueled a public outcry against Vick.

"I know animals touch people's hearts," said Cowboys linebacker Junior Glymph, who was Vick's Atlanta teammate from 2004-05. "Some vegetarians don't like killing cows. I can understand there are a lot of dog lovers out there. I like dogs. I like Michael Vick, too.

"This dog stuff, it's not something you talk about. I just knew him as a person. We got along good. We weren't close or anything, but we would speak. He's a cool guy. I don't see him as this type of guy."

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell told reporters at the Detroit Lions' camp Thursday he didn't think the Vick saga would damage the sports' popularity. But he did indicate a plea bargain could be an admission of guilt, which in turn could put Vick in violation of the league's recently enhanced off-field conduct policy.

Based on Goodell's swift justice with other policy violators, Vick could first serve a jail sentence, then face a league suspension.

Among those pulling for Vick is Broncos and former Falcons defensive line coach Bill Johnson.

"I will say this: When all the allegations came out, I was surprised," Johnson said. "I never had any inclination. I'm not sure all he's being accused of. It just makes me feel bad."

As Johnson talked, a thought passed through his mind. He started coaching the Falcons' defensive line in 2001, Vick's rookie year. And Johnson left prior to the 2007 season.

Recent developments suggest Vick also may spend the rest of 2007 somewhere other than Atlanta.

"We came to Atlanta at the same time," Johnson said. "And there's a chance we'll leave Atlanta at the same time."

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_6644176
 

Achozen

Sounds From The Lair
Messages
5,083
Reaction score
11
"I know animals touch people's hearts," said Cowboys linebacker Junior Glymph, who was Vick's Atlanta teammate from 2004-05. "Some vegetarians don't like killing cows. I can understand there are a lot of dog lovers out there. I like dogs. I like Michael Vick, too.
That literally made me laugh out loud. Good job, Glymph.
 

VACowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
7,006
Reaction score
3,896
Lots and lots of people thought Ted Bundy was a great guy too.
 

CrazyCowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
32,287
Reaction score
440
A really bad situation for sure.......for all involved......NFL, Players, Family, Sponsors and FANS
 

Chocolate Lab

Run-loving Dino
Messages
37,104
Reaction score
11,422
"I think they're coming down hard on him," Veal said Thursday after the Broncos' afternoon practice with the Dallas Cowboys. "The man knows he made a mistake, but they're making him out to be a monster right now. He's not that bad of a guy. He's a nice person who got caught up in a bad situation.
Don't you love it? The old, "He just got caught up in a bad situation" argument.

You get "caught up" in traffic. You don't get caught up in hanging, drowning, and electrocuting dogs.
 

Sarge

Red, White and Brew...
Staff member
Messages
33,771
Reaction score
31,538
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Yes, Vick got himself in a very unfortunate situation when he (allegedly) drowned 8 dogs because they didn't live up to his expectations. Very unfortunate for Mr. Vick.

Ya right.
 

VACowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
7,006
Reaction score
3,896
Chocolate Lab;1593093 said:
Don't you love it? The old, "He just got caught up in a bad situation" argument.

You get "caught up" in traffic. You don't get caught up in hanging, drowning, and electrocuting dogs.

EXACTLY my point.
 

5Stars

Here comes the Sun...
Messages
37,846
Reaction score
16,869
CowboysZone LOYAL Fan
Chocolate Lab;1593093 said:
Don't you love it? The old, "He just got caught up in a bad situation" argument.

You get "caught up" in traffic. You don't get caught up in hanging, drowning, and electrocuting dogs.


All these players that are asked about Vick are using nothing put political bs responses, that's all. Well, except for Portis, and he's just dumb...
 

5Stars

Here comes the Sun...
Messages
37,846
Reaction score
16,869
CowboysZone LOYAL Fan
Sarge;1593096 said:
Yes, Vick got himself in a very unfortunate situation when he (allegedly) drowned 8 dogs because they didn't live up to his expectations. Very unfortunate for Mr. Vick.

Ya right.


I think Vick was just trying to give his dogs a bath...accidental drownings happen all the time...
 

Future

Intramural Legend
Messages
27,566
Reaction score
14,714
5Stars;1593098 said:
All these players that are asked about Vick are using nothing put political bs responses, that's all. Well, except for Portis, and he's just dumb...

I thought that Glymph's response seemed 100% honest, thats just me.
 

sago1

Active Member
Messages
7,791
Reaction score
0
It seems hard for a lot of NFL players to understand why Vick is in so much trouble. You hear some say he was a great guy and has a lot of talent as if somehow that excuses what the indictment alleges he's done. I think it shows how out of touch some athletes are from the reality of the world which most of us live in. Too often athletes get judged/treated by a very different standard then the rest of us which allows them to avoid punishment. When reality hits them in the face, some struggle to understood/accept what Vick has been charged with. Of course too many haven't bothered to read the indictment for whatever reason before they open their minds.

Understand the Commish is making the rounds talking to all the NFL teams. Sure would be nice to hear what he has to say if the subject of Vick comes up while discussing the new disciplinary code. If Vick is smart, he accepts any plea bargain the Feds willing offer him. It's one thing to admit in court everything he has done re dogfighting, gambling, etc. It is something else for all those witnesses to testify against him and for the prosecutor to show videos (which they allegedly have) of Vick himself actually killing dog(s) & paying off his gambling debts incurred as a result of these dogfights. You can only imagine the revulsion which would be generated by all the blood, etc.
 

5Stars

Here comes the Sun...
Messages
37,846
Reaction score
16,869
CowboysZone LOYAL Fan
Future 585;1593105 said:
I thought that Glymph's response seemed 100% honest, thats just me.

"I like dogs. I like Michael Vick, too."

Same thing....

:cool:
 

VACowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
7,006
Reaction score
3,896
Crown Royal;1593067 said:
You didn't just post this. Tell me I am imagining it.

Not comparing dog fighting to serial killing. My point is, many, many people who thought they knew Ted Bundy would never have guessed that he killed women in his spare time. Byy the same token, lots of people would never have imagined Vick killing dogs in his.
 

DallasEast

Cowboys 24/7/365
Staff member
Messages
62,298
Reaction score
63,979
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
The Michael Vick profile:

Extremely gifted athlete
Multimillionaire
Great guy
Media darling (past tense)
Frequent dog killer

Did I leave anything out? :confused:
 

Future

Intramural Legend
Messages
27,566
Reaction score
14,714
DallasEast;1593123 said:
The Michael Vick profile:

Extremely gifted athlete
Multimillionaire
Great guy
Media darling (past tense)
Frequent dog killer

Did I leave anything out? :confused:

:laugh2: :laugh2:
 

big dog cowboy

THE BIG DOG
Staff member
Messages
101,827
Reaction score
112,710
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Angus;1593052 said:
"I think they're coming down hard on him," Veal said Thursday after the Broncos' afternoon practice with the Dallas Cowboys. "The man knows he made a mistake, but they're making him out to be a monster right now. He's not that bad of a guy. He's a nice person who got caught up in a bad situation. I talked to him and gave him my support."
I don't think so.

I don't think so.

OK whatever.
 

Crown Royal

Insulin Beware
Messages
14,229
Reaction score
6,383
VACowboy;1593113 said:
Not comparing dog fighting to serial killing. My point is, many, many people who thought they knew Ted Bundy would never have guessed that he killed women in his spare time. Byy the same token, lots of people would never have imagined Vick killing dogs in his.

That makes more sense, thanks. I took it the wrong way.
 

LittleBoyBlue

Redvolution
Messages
35,766
Reaction score
8,411
Where is the Curt Schilling of the NFL?

Curt called out Barry(I am still growing in my late 30's & 40's) Bonds...

Its understandable.... no one wants to be associated with this story. PC answers are boring but... its safe.
 
Top