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Midswat said:So did he play anyone besides North Texas?
DallasCowpoke said:Try letting your A.D.D. meds kick-in before you watch it next time Pepe, maybe you can get past the 1st 8 seconds.
Midswat said:He's just going to be like every other UT "stud" and bust in the NFL . . .
Yeah, that's right.Midswat said:He's just going to be like every other UT "stud" and bust in the NFL . . .
trickblue said:Lord knows I would love to see him don the revered star...
If this ends up being the case... let's hope he isn't another Quentin Coryatt...
Roughneck said:Yeah, that's right.
I mean Earl Campbell, Jerry Gray, Casey Hampton, Priest Holmes, Bobby Layne, Steve McMichael, Eric Metcalf, Tommy Nobis, Jerry Sisemore, Ricky Williams (when on the field), and Roy Williams, just to name a few, were all busts.
Okay I proved that there were, are some great Longhorns that have played, are playing in the NFL. You proved that there are some that didn't pan out.Midswat said:Yeah . . .
And Ken Simms, Mossy Cade, Mike Ruether, Stanly Richard, Stan Thomas, Blake Brokenmeyer, Bryant Westbrook, Leonard Davis, Mike Williams, Quintin Jammer, Bruch Sholtz, Terry Tausch, Lawrence Sampleton, Ed Williams, Doug Dawson, James Patton, Van Malone, and Derrick Dockery, just to name a few, think UT is a bust factory . . .
Indicating that every "stud" to come out of UT is a bust. I admit that not every Longhorn turned Pro has been a success. Do you wish to backtrack and admit that not every Longhorn turned Pro has been a bust or do you simply wish to remain wrong?He's just going to be like every other UT "stud" and bust in the NFL . . .
Midswat said:He's just going to be like every other UT "stud" and bust in the NFL . . .
Roughneck said:BTW, originally you posted:Indicating that every "stud" to come out of UT is a bust. I admit that not every Longhorn turned Pro has been a success. Do you wish to backtrack and admit that not every Longhorn turned Pro has been a bust or do you simply wish to remain wrong?
When did 99 out of 100 come to represent the word "every"?Midswat said:I don't wish to backtrack anything.
About 99% of Longhorn "studs" don't pan out . . .
He also has the 17th most rushing yards in League history.And the ones you listed:
Earl Campbell was injury prone.
Played 9 seasons in the League as a DB, making 4 straight Pro Bowls from 1986-1989.Jerry Gray . . . who?
Decent Players don't go to the Pro Bowl in only their third year in the League.Casey Hampton? Yeah, he plays in the NFL now. He's decent.
......and also one of the Top 5 RBs in the League.Priest Holmes? One of the one percent.
Played 16 seasons at QB, making 5 Pro Bowls.Bobby Layne? Vaguely rings a bell.
Average my ***, dude played for 15 seasons in the League and made it to 2 Pro Bowls. He was a big part in why Da Bears Defense was so dominating.Steve McMichael? Average player on a great great Bears defense.
You can't find one of the greatest return men in NFL History there though. Metcalf still holds the NFL Record for most Career Punt Returns for a TD with 10.Eric Metcalf? Drafted as a wide receiver. Horrible wide receiver. Could only return punts. You can find 7th rounders to return punts.
Linebacker who played 11 seasons with Atlanta, making 5 Pro Bowls.Tommy Nobis? Who?
He was even better playing 12 seasons on the OL with Philly, making 2 Pro Bowls.Jerry Sisemore? Yeah . . . he was great on Saving Private Ryan.
Say what you want about his character/off the field issues but he was one of the elite RBs in the game when he left and he'll be one of the elite RBs in the League when he comes back.Ricky Williams? You really shouldn't have brought him up.
Nobody said he was a hero but being one of the top candidates for Rookie of the Year should count him exempt from the bust pile for now.Roy Williams? 8 games into his rookie year and you're claiming him as a hero?
That and I don't think it's too horrible that he's running with the second team and seeing major action in only his first year in the League.I could have listed Marcus Tubbs as a dud . . . but I figured it was too early in his career . . .
Roughneck said:Anything else you care for me to shoot down?
I shot down all your remarks on those players.Midswat said:You haven't shot anything down.
As of late, you are correct as the current tenure has yet to produce a Conference Championship or a National Championship.UT is a big time program . . . but they never accomplish anything . . .
Actually they do, see my above posts.and their players very very very very rarely translate into success stories at the next level.
I'm not going to sit here and knock Tennessee, as they have produced some damn fine Football Players (Manning, Witten, etc.) but many of the knocks aimed at Mack Brown were being said about Fulmer before he won a NC and they are starting to rear their ugly heads in Knoxville again.Now . . . the real UT (University of Tennesse) is a juggernaut of NFL talent.
Then that's idiocy on your part as any team in the NFL would kill to have an Eric Metcalf in his prime.And I don't have to bring up players who only succeeded as punt returners
That's still 2 more Pro Bowls and a Hell of a lot more seasons than most players in this League will ever see (a.k.a. he's not a bust).or some guy making the Pro Bowl twice in a 15 year career as an example.
Disproved (see above).Bottom line is . . . Texas players don't have a good history.
Well Nostra*******, we'll just have to wait and see if DJ ends up a bust but some team is going to pay him Millions upon Millions upon Millions of dollars with the belief that he won't be.And I'd rather not risk one of our high draft picks on a player that will more than likely bust.
Doesn't hurt my feelings. If your dislike of a specific University is so great that you would pass on the Best Defensive Player in the Nation and a LB that has the greatest upside at his position seen in years, that's your problem.Sorry if that hurts your feelings.
Roughneck said:Disproved (see above). Well Nostra*******, we'll just have to wait and see if DJ ends up a bust but some team is going to pay him Millions upon Millions upon Millions of dollars with the belief that he won't be.
Roughneck said:Doesn't hurt my feelings. If your dislike of a specific University is so great that you would pass on the Best Defensive Player in the Nation and a LB that has the greatest upside at his position seen in years, that's your problem.