did we really have 10 penalties... at HOME

[MONT17]

how does that happen? or Why? all ppl wanna talk about is Garrett and Romo, granted... but the entire team is a joke! ...its not 1 person or coach its the entire thing! I cant blame anyone really... do Bills fans blame anyone 1 person for losing 4 Super Bowls? This is the NFL, the game I love and right now, the Cowboys are "that" team.

You know the teams I'm talking about the 80s Chargers, the early 90s Eagles, any Warren Moon team and almost every Brett Farve team without Holmgren... and now Jerrys Cowboys are "that" team!


there is nothing anyone can do or anyone on the team to take the blame... its the game we love! We will all look back on this time and laugh/cry/fight over what woulda/coulda/ should have been... much like the JOEY years!!!

 

[Hoofbite]

Yeah, they did have 10 penalties.

Stupid penalty after stupid penalty.

Of course some will say its all the refs. Im sure there are those who would pin the PI call on the refs.

 

[EveryoneElse]

I didn't want to start a new thread about this in case it's been talked about, but.....


I can understand why you kick the ball deep with 3 minutes and all your timeouts, but why in the hell did we not attempt an onside kick after our last score? Maybe we get the ball back and the 82 yard run never happens.....I just didn't understand the thought process.

Onside kicks work sometimes.

 

[grp05]

We should remember that the offense did step up when they needed to. Sure, we didn't get the win and that's all that matters, but Romo, TO, and Witten did everything they could in the 4th to win that game.

Our offense lost the first 3 quarters, but the defense lost the 4th. It's a heartbreaking loss, but so was Pittsburgh. Maybe our offense can feed off of this loss, just like the defense fed off the Pitt loss. 17 points in the 4th isn't too shabby. We just need a complete effort for once.

Raise your hand if you feel a little better about next Sunday after watching the Eagles implode against Washington. I'm really counting on them being eliminated by the time 3pm rolls around. That would certainly test their concentration.

 

[lcharles]

We should remember that the offense did step up when they needed to. Sure, we didn't get the win and that's all that matters, but Romo, TO, and Witten did everything they could in the 4th to win that game.

Our offense lost the first 3 quarters, but the defense lost the 4th. It's a heartbreaking loss, but so was Pittsburgh. Maybe our offense can feed off of this loss, just like the defense fed off the Pitt loss. 17 points in the 4th isn't too shabby. We just need a complete effort for once.

Raise your hand if you feel a little better about next Sunday after watching the Eagles implode against Washington. I'm really counting on them being eliminated by the time 3pm rolls around. That would certainly test their concentration.

I have been watching this team since the Staubach- Morten era.

saturday did something to me that I can't explain. For the first time in my life I am totally indifferent to what this team does now. I just don't have the energy to expend on this crap anymore.


I don't think it really matters if the Eagles have anything to play for or not.

We couldn't get this team up for a non division foe on a national stage closing out our historic stadium with all of the living former Cowboy greats witnessing.


Words can't express how I feel about that.


Maybe it's that I just can't feel anymore.



I have no excitement left for this season. none.



I didn't even watch any other games yesterday, really didn't care about any of their outcomes because it boils down to this: I have absolutely zero confidence in this team and coaches to take care of their buisness.


I guess that makes me a sorry 40+ year fan.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

I have been watching this team since the Staubach- Morten era.

saturday did something to me that I can't explain. For the first time in my life I am totally indifferent to what this team does now. I just don't have the energy to expend on this crap anymore.


I don't think it really matters if the Eagles have anything to play for or not.

We couldn't get this team up for a non division foe on a national stage closing out our historic stadium with all of the living former Cowboy greats witnessing.


Words can't express how I feel about that.


Maybe it's that I just can't feel anymore.



I have no excitement left for this season. none.



I didn't even watch any other games yesterday, really didn't care about any of their outcomes because it boils down to this: I have absolutely zero confidence in this team and coaches to take care of their buisness.


I guess that makes me a sorry 40+ year fan.

wow....I had a similiar experience. And like I said in another thread, it could be because I think the players look ready to go home. They don't look happy or sad....they looked relieved when we win....and they look like they are ready to go home when we lose. The PRESSURE to perform has sapped them of all there energy. And this is why I don't understand why Jerry thinks the game itself is not "enough" pressure. We are on TV every week. We are "everybody's" Super Bowl. Guys like Steven Jackson have a career day against us....then dissapear for weeks. Guys like Carson Palmer come off the injury list to play us....then go back to the injury list after the game. I have stated in many threads how disgusted I am that Jerry admitted he "loves the drama" How he thinks it "brings out the best in us". He is clearly out of touch with the pesonality of this team. They DO NOT love it. It DOES NOT help them perform better. The circus like atmosphere has wore on me and he is kidding himself if he does not think it has wore on the players. His BEST players do not even like the media....so why does he think "we thrive off of this"?

 

[lcharles]

wow....I had a similiar experience. And like I said in another thread, it could be because I think the players look ready to go home. They don't look happy or sad....they looked relieved when we win....and they look like they are ready to go home when we lose. The PRESSURE to perform has sapped them of all there energy. And this is why I don't understand why Jerry thinks the game itself is not "enough" pressure. We are on TV every week. We are "everybody's" Super Bowl. Guys like Steven Jackson have a career day against us....then dissapear for weeks. Guys like Carson Palmer come off the injury list to play us....then go back to the injury list after the game. I have stated in many threads how disgusted I am that Jerry admitted he "loves the drama" How he thinks it "brings out the best in us". He is clearly out of touch with the pesonality of this team. They DO NOT love it. It DOES NOT help them perform better. The circus like atmosphere has wore on me and he is kidding himself if he does not think it has wore on the players. His BEST players do not even like the media....so why does he think "we thrive off of this"?

Well said.

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

wow....I had a similiar experience. And like I said in another thread, it could be because I think the players look ready to go home. They don't look happy or sad....they looked relieved when we win....and they look like they are ready to go home when we lose. The PRESSURE to perform has sapped them of all there energy. And this is why I don't understand why Jerry thinks the game itself is not "enough" pressure. We are on TV every week. We are "everybody's" Super Bowl. Guys like Steven Jackson have a career day against us....then dissapear for weeks. Guys like Carson Palmer come off the injury list to play us....then go back to the injury list after the game. I have stated in many threads how disgusted I am that Jerry admitted he "loves the drama" How he thinks it "brings out the best in us". He is clearly out of touch with the pesonality of this team. They DO NOT love it. It DOES NOT help them perform better. The circus like atmosphere has wore on me and he is kidding himself if he does not think it has wore on the players. His BEST players do not even like the media....so why does he think "we thrive off of this"?

That's really well put. I think there's a lot of truth to it. There's a reason that other teams try to avoid distractions. There's also a reason we haven't won a playoff game in over a decade. They all go hand in hand and it goes back to the man at the top. I wouldn't choose any other owner over him, but his belief that all publicity is good publicity is bunk.

Your team starts to lose focus or feel like the weight of the world is on them or the spotlight is just too bright, you end up choking at critical times.

 

[WG5516]

Well said.

Wow very well said. When I started that thread about Jerry admitting he loved the attention a few weeks ago, folks were saying why wouldn't he love it? His team is in the spotlight constantly and that creates money. I also said that I'm sick of the distractions so I know the team has to be. I definitely agree with the OP, I don't care if we win or loose next week. The inconsistently with this team is unbelievable. I'll probably watch the game, but I've already chose my secondary squad for the tournament.

 

[odog422]

wow....I had a similiar experience. And like I said in another thread, it could be because I think the players look ready to go home. They don't look happy or sad....they looked relieved when we win....and they look like they are ready to go home when we lose. The PRESSURE to perform has sapped them of all there energy. And this is why I don't understand why Jerry thinks the game itself is not "enough" pressure. We are on TV every week. We are "everybody's" Super Bowl. Guys like Steven Jackson have a career day against us....then dissapear for weeks. Guys like Carson Palmer come off the injury list to play us....then go back to the injury list after the game. I have stated in many threads how disgusted I am that Jerry admitted he "loves the drama" How he thinks it "brings out the best in us". He is clearly out of touch with the pesonality of this team. They DO NOT love it. It DOES NOT help them perform better. The circus like atmosphere has wore on me and he is kidding himself if he does not think it has wore on the players. His BEST players do not even like the media....so why does he think "we thrive off of this"?

Good post. And FWIW, I think Jerry's rationale is simple -- he thinks coaching and team chemistry is overrated and that as long as you have the best talent, you'll win.

This is why you sign Owens.
This why you sign pacman.

Because he only sees the name and disregards the rest. Track history means nothing to him and he can't help himself. He's obsessed with being in the spotlight and figures if he has the most talent, he will win, and he'll get the credit. He has no choice but to say "we love this" when these half-baked ideas blow up in his face.

 

[dbair1967]

I didn't want to start a new thread about this in case it's been talked about, but.....


I can understand why you kick the ball deep with 3 minutes and all your timeouts, but why in the hell did we not attempt an onside kick after our last score? Maybe we get the ball back and the 82 yard run never happens.....I just didn't understand the thought process.

Onside kicks work sometimes.

Because we still had 3 timeouts and the odds were much better (at least should have been) that we could stop 3 dives right into the LOS. They'd have used about 10 seconds or so and we'd have got the ball with decent field position, with the leagues best kicker of our side for a FG.

They ran the ball something like 34 times for 106 yds, except for those 2 last runs which totaled 159 yds...

 

[dbair1967]

wow....I had a similiar experience. And like I said in another thread, it could be because I think the players look ready to go home. They don't look happy or sad....they looked relieved when we win....and they look like they are ready to go home when we lose. The PRESSURE to perform has sapped them of all there energy. And this is why I don't understand why Jerry thinks the game itself is not "enough" pressure. We are on TV every week. We are "everybody's" Super Bowl. Guys like Steven Jackson have a career day against us....then dissapear for weeks. Guys like Carson Palmer come off the injury list to play us....then go back to the injury list after the game. I have stated in many threads how disgusted I am that Jerry admitted he "loves the drama" How he thinks it "brings out the best in us". He is clearly out of touch with the pesonality of this team. They DO NOT love it. It DOES NOT help them perform better. The circus like atmosphere has wore on me and he is kidding himself if he does not think it has wore on the players. His BEST players do not even like the media....so why does he think "we thrive off of this"?

The problem is the team has no desire or heart, not any of that other stuff.

This "team" just doesnt seem to value winning like some of our past great teams did, which is why this group of players (particularly the QB) will never be considered "great" unless that changes. You can tell by some of their reactions after games, losing is not that big a deal to alot of them.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but your's above sounds more like an excuse or rationalizing why they play like crap when the games go up in importance. None of what you said above is anything new, its been that way since the 70's. We've always been everybody's super bowl. We're always going to get other teams' best shot. The difference is this team just doesnt give a crap enough. There are a few exceptions there among the players, but when the teams star QB is one of the main culprits of not caring enough abouts wins and losses, its trickles down to too many others.

 

[Juke99]

wow....I had a similiar experience. And like I said in another thread, it could be because I think the players look ready to go home. They don't look happy or sad....they looked relieved when we win....and they look like they are ready to go home when we lose. The PRESSURE to perform has sapped them of all there energy. And this is why I don't understand why Jerry thinks the game itself is not "enough" pressure. We are on TV every week. We are "everybody's" Super Bowl. Guys like Steven Jackson have a career day against us....then dissapear for weeks. Guys like Carson Palmer come off the injury list to play us....then go back to the injury list after the game. I have stated in many threads how disgusted I am that Jerry admitted he "loves the drama" How he thinks it "brings out the best in us". He is clearly out of touch with the pesonality of this team. They DO NOT love it. It DOES NOT help them perform better. The circus like atmosphere has wore on me and he is kidding himself if he does not think it has wore on the players. His BEST players do not even like the media....so why does he think "we thrive off of this"?

Well said.

When a team changes head coaches, assistant coaches, coordinators, players, systems and soon stadiums...and still has the same disappointing results, year after year, ya have to look for the constant in the equation in order to identify the problem.

In this case, it's simple.

Jerry Jones.

None of us has the inside info regarding what goes on with the Cowboys but it doesn't take Norman Einstein to figure out that the only constant through the years is Jerry.

I'll say again what I've been saying for years, Jerry Jones is 1) a business/marketing man 2) A football man. Comments such as his stated preference for drama because it keeps the Cowboys in the news, is the comment of a marketing guy...not a football guy.

And that's what is foundationally wrong with this franchise.

Ya look at the Giants...they are as boring as can be. Few big names...few stars. Jerry could never find it in himself to put that kind of roster on the field.

For Jerry, it's all about stars and star power because those players bring in the $$$

That is why an owner with his set of priorities should never be the GM. There's no system of checks and balances. Jerry was great when he had Jimmy because he wasn't yet feeling his oates. Once they started to win and have so much success, so early, the die was cast for what we are still watching today.

Just my opinion.

 

[cowboyed]

I have been watching this team since the Staubach- Morten era.

saturday did something to me that I can't explain. For the first time in my life I am totally indifferent to what this team does now. I just don't have the energy to expend on this crap anymore.


I don't think it really matters if the Eagles have anything to play for or not.

We couldn't get this team up for a non division foe on a national stage closing out our historic stadium with all of the living former Cowboy greats witnessing.


Words can't express how I feel about that.


Maybe it's that I just can't feel anymore.



I have no excitement left for this season. none.



I didn't even watch any other games yesterday, really didn't care about any of their outcomes because it boils down to this: I have absolutely zero confidence in this team and coaches to take care of their buisness.


I guess that makes me a sorry 40+ year fan.

Wow, that is exactly what I thought and felt. I cannot get up for this upcoming Eagles game. I am still not over that Ravens loss at home and very last game at Texas Stadium. I did not watch a single game on Sunday and I paid for DirecTV, lol. I did not give a crap.

I am hoping some of my fan gumption comes back the closer we get to the Eagles game. Also I am thinking the polar opposite about the Eagles being dead meat after letting the Skins game slip away.

They still have playoff life and they would love to knock us out of the playoffs at the very least. This game at their stadium will be nasty.

 

[SteveOS]

At least the Boys can be #1 in something this year, right?

 

[THUMPER]

Well said.

When a team changes head coaches, assistant coaches, coordinators, players, systems and soon stadiums...and still has the same disappointing results, year after year, ya have to look for the constant in the equation in order to identify the problem.

In this case, it's simple.

Jerry Jones.

None of us has the inside info regarding what goes on with the Cowboys but it doesn't take Norman Einstein to figure out that the only constant through the years is Jerry.

I'll say again what I've been saying for years, Jerry Jones is 1) a business/marketing man 2) A football man. Comments such as his stated preference for drama because it keeps the Cowboys in the news, is the comment of a marketing guy...not a football guy.

And that's what is foundationally wrong with this franchise.

Ya look at the Giants...they are as boring as can be. Few big names...few stars. Jerry could never find it in himself to put that kind of roster on the field.

For Jerry, it's all about stars and star power because those players bring in the $$$

That is why an owner with his set of priorities should never be the GM. There's no system of checks and balances. Jerry was great when he had Jimmy because he wasn't yet feeling his oates. Once they started to win and have so much success, so early, the die was cast for what we are still watching today.

Just my opinion.

Very well put Juke and "on the nosey". Jones wants to win, but he wants the drama even more, the attention and constant focus on the team is what he craves even more than winning. He is deluded into believing that he can have both somehow but the NFL doesn't work that way. Teams in turmoil don't win championships because this is a TEAM sport and it requires the players and coaches to be on the same page.

Until Jerry either grows up or turns the team over to Stephen it isn't likely to change and that is very frustrating to the fans who have stuck with the Cowboys all these years.

 

[alancdc]

We just jumped offsides AGAIN. Are they TOO concerned about getting sacks and this is causing them to jump?

 

[TheCount]

We are THE most penalized team in the league both in terms of number (115) and yardage (911).

We also ranked 18th in the league in time of possession average and 27th in the league in turnover differential at -7, putting us right imbetween the Buffalo Bills and the Detroit Lions and in the company of other horrible teams like The Rams, Seahawks and Broncos.

We are actually ranked 9th is 3rd down conversions percentage, we we may not have as many 3 and outs as it appears. I'd be interested to know how many times we've turned the ball over on 1st or 2nd down though.

 

[landryscorner]

well you know every game is a guaranteed 3 false starts from the combination of Colombo and Flozell which leads the league in False Starts...

Like John Madden says, Flozell leads the World in false starts.

so that right there is 3 penalties, plus we also do a lot of boneheaded penalties like holding...no where near the play.....personal fouls, and plenty of Pass Interference...

this team is just too undiciplined, and like parcells said...."this is the dumbest team I've coached" and he wasn't kiding..

 

[djmajestik]

I have been watching this team since the Staubach- Morten era.

saturday did something to me that I can't explain. For the first time in my life I am totally indifferent to what this team does now. I just don't have the energy to expend on this crap anymore.


I don't think it really matters if the Eagles have anything to play for or not.

We couldn't get this team up for a non division foe on a national stage closing out our historic stadium with all of the living former Cowboy greats witnessing.


Words can't express how I feel about that.


Maybe it's that I just can't feel anymore.



I have no excitement left for this season. none.



I didn't even watch any other games yesterday, really didn't care about any of their outcomes because it boils down to this: I have absolutely zero confidence in this team and coaches to take care of their buisness.


I guess that makes me a sorry 40+ year fan.

Some would call you a non-fan, but that is simply not true. No words could better describe how I feel. And I have been a fan since I was 4 years old, 1979. And I will continue to bleed blue & silver. And I will continue to watch the team.

But that has to be one of the most embarrassing things I have witnessed in my 33 years. I label this team the let-downers.

They can't just lose. They have to bury any ounce of respect, caring, love you may feel for that team. They take your hopes and they play with them.

I guess what I can say is I truly empathize with you. And that probably will get me labelled a non-fan as well.

It's tough to continue to get up when you keep getting knocked down the way this team is knocking down its' fans.