DL 2018 vs 2019

[QuincyCarterEra]

I’ll claim whatever I want. If you can’t stop the run with the season on the line, it’s a weakness going into the next season. You typing in bold doesn’t make your opinion correct. Not having at least one run stuffing DT that demands a double team on 1st down and short yardages is asinine and has gone on for far too long. The team is close enough now to stop handing other teams a glaring weakness to exploit in the playoffs.

The season was on the line multiple times, and we stopped the run.

You're grasping at straws. Conversation done.

 

[Cowboys22]

The season was on the line multiple times, and we stopped the run.

You're grasping at straws. Conversation done.

Yep, and you’re still wrong. It only takes one time to end a season. That’s why once is one too many and that makes it a weakness. If it wasn’t a weakness, it wouldn’t have happened. Now the conversation is over and common sense has prevailed.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Yep, and you’re still wrong. It only takes one time to end a season. That’s why once is one too many and that makes it a weakness. If it wasn’t a weakness, it wouldn’t have happened. Now the conversation is over and common sense has prevailed.

You've been wrong about 15 times in this thread alone. Nothing I've said has been wrong.

Better luck next time.

 

[charron]

See, I think they need to address DT simply due to the Rams game. It exposed a weakness that just hadn’t been exploited in a pass happy league. But you put the season on the line and a good coach will exploit it. Not having a DT that can clog the middle on 1st down and short yardage is beyond ridiculous in my mind.

Agreed vs the rams we didn't have a good enough DT, but Covington should be solid there. He's good against the run and with dual threat quinn I don't see us getting exploited again atleast not for 275 rushing yards. We could draft 2 DT to help us for the next couple years (a 1T and a 3T).

 

[LatinMind]

LVE and Jaylon should build on last year and be unbelievable this year. Can somebody put a quick list together of who we lost and who we added on the DLine. The only loss that I can think of is Irving who didn’t play last year anyway.

Quinn and Gregory are probably the same at rushing the passer, the difference is Quinn can also play 1st and 2nd down at DE too allowing Crawford to play his best posistion at 3tech. Adding players like Covington and Kerry provide veteran depth. Proven rotational players, that can come in with the 2nd unit and provide production. Anything added in the draft is a extra that provides more stability.

 

[xwalker]

Quinn and Gregory are probably the same at rushing the passer, the difference is Quinn can also play 1st and 2nd down at DE too allowing Crawford to play his best posistion at 3tech. Adding players like Covington and Kerry provide veteran depth. Proven rotational players, that can come in with the 2nd unit and provide production. Anything added in the draft is a extra that provides more stability.

Wrong again.

Gregory is a better run defender than Quinn.

Marinelli didn't want to wear Gregory down playing him in base.

Quinn will get the starts because that's how they handle expensive veteran players but they'll rotate him out similar to Gregory.

Starts at RDE in 2018:
Crawford 7 (8 starts at DT)
Taco 7
Gregory 1
Armstrong 1

 

[LatinMind]

Wrong again.

Gregory is a better run defender than Quinn.

Marinelli didn't want to wear Gregory down playing him in base.

Quinn will get the starts because that's how they handle expensive veteran players but they'll rotate him out similar to Gregory.

Starts at RDE in 2018:
Crawford 7 (8 starts at DT)
Taco 7
Gregory 1
Armstrong 1

I read and posted too many articles and seen too many videos on Quinn being one of the best DEs vs the run. Prove your opinion. Thinking Marinelli would keep somebody out that is so good vs the run is laughable.

 

[Knotamus]

This is truely a “what have you done lately” league. Folks keep talking about the last game against the Rams and how we got ran all over. I get it, but this is definitely a knee jerk mentality.

Dallas had the same scheme two years ago in the playoff game against the Packers and held them to 87 yards rushing,17yrds coming from Aaron Rodgers.

People choose to keep echoing this misconception that the 1T would have somehow changed the course of the Rams game.

And they keep writing new forums ab how we need to draft a big run stuffer as if it’s going to happen. THAT IS NOT THE MARINELLI SCHEME! Not sure how many other posters have to repeat this until people get it. Yeah, but I’m sure someone is sitting on their toilet reading this and believes they know more ab how this scheme should be run. Right on..

Just FYI, under this scheme the run defense has been pretty darn good: 4 of 5 years top 10.

2018- 5th ranked/ 3.8avg / 94.6yrd a game
2017- 8th/ 4.1 / 104.0
2016- 1st/ 3.8 / 83.5
2015- 22nd/ 4.2 / 120.9
2014- 8th/ 4.2 / 103.1

Two years before this scheme was implemented:

2013- ranked 27th in the league
2012- ranked 22nd

That said, let’s see how this defense will look with two (reliable) above average edge rushers in DLaw & Quinn. And let TCrawford actually concentrate on DT for which he signed his “big” contract for.. This defensive Line is looking very good and deep. And Dallas is more than likely going to add another ‘stud’ for Marenilli to mold. I personally like how our DL attacks. Yes, there will be moments where it breaks down and that’s what are talented LBers are there for. But to keep hearing people moan ab not having a fat guy in the middle is ridiculous. This scheme has proven it can shut RBs down and dominate. The Rams game was way more than ONE position.

 

[CouchCoach]

This DL, right now, doesn't look a lot better than it did last season and I don't know what some were watching to call this DL anything but average. Citing run stats in the passing game era doesn't tell the story.

I am not concerned about stopping the run as much as bringing the pressure and not just from the outside. It is unusual to get beat by a run game, that only happens when a D can't stop it, the passing this team will face will call for more pressure. They were inconsistent and faded and if I were in charge, I would do whatever necessary in this draft to get the best pass rusher within reach, even using some 2020 draft collateral. The Cowboys need numbers with pass pressure and they do not have it at this time.

 

[xwalker]

I read and posted too many articles and seen too many videos on Quinn being one of the best DEs vs the run. Prove your opinion. Thinking Marinelli would keep somebody out that is so good vs the run is laughable.

 

[Knotamus]

Citing run stats in the passing game era doesn't tell the story.

Hmmm.. when is this excuse going to get old? Last I checked, the rankings include all teams in this “passing league”.. which makes the stat still relevant.

Not to mention, maybe the list of opponents top RB from last year may help:

Game 1- Saquan Barkley 11att- 28 yds
2- McCaffrey 10- 50
3- Chris Carson 32-102
4- Kerryon Johnson 9- 55
5- Alfred Blue 20- 46
6- TJ Yeldon 8- 41
7- Adrian Peterson 24-99
8- Dion Lewis 19-62
9- Josh Adams 7-47
10- Telvin Coleman 8-58
11- Peterson 12-35
12- Alvin Kamara 11-36
13- Josh Adams 7-36
14- Marlon Mack 27-139
15- Peyton Barber 17-43
16- Saquon Barkley 17-109

I could mention our DL dealt with a litany of injuries, no David Irving, underperforming Taco, or a bunch of Jags at DT like some will most definitely point out. But at the end of the day, the scheme worked to shut down some very good RBs in this league. Stop the run first and make the other team pass.. it’s an old tactic to try to create turnovers. Which btw.. I believe our defense truely needs to work on. If we could create more turnovers and give our offense a couple extra drives and/or shorted fields.. Dallas would dominate.

 

[blueblood70]

This really is an inaccurate take. Our defense is penetrate with athletic DTs, not read and react with behemoths. And we were 5th overall in run D last year. dont let the recency bias of the Rams game cloud the facts.
https://cowboyszone.com/threads/let’s-not-overrate-rams-loss-on-run-d.431689/

agree taking a few games to say now its going to happen every game..they were caught off guard by a game plan they didnt expect on the road against better team..it happens..all teams have issues a game or two that doesnt make it their personality going forward..i blame the coaches more for that game not having an adjusments or plan in the 2nd half to take advantage of what the rams were doing, we lost by 8..fans say gashed an what not which yes from the run but we didnt get blown out, had chance..I believe that embarrassment will help the coaches and players have bit more juice in games where this comes up again.

 

[HungryLion]

This is why they brought in Covington. A better McClain, and if you remember the year McClain was healthy we had a very tough Dline to run against. Our front 4 will be very dangerous.

Agreed.

Draft is deep with DL talent too.

I could see us adding another talented player in the 2nd or 3rd round who can be a valuable rotation piece.

 

[blueblood70]

I think we are a tad better and that good..lets hope Dlaw doesnt miss any time given he waited on surgery..that woul anger me ..35 mil for short year NFNWAY

 

[Legend]

Still need to add 2 good run stuffing DTs; since it would be good to dominate the line of scrimmage and go on a run like the early 90s Eagles who did not allow a 100 yard rusher in 54 straight games.

 

[charron]

Agreed.

Draft is deep with DL talent too.

I could see us adding another talented player in the 2nd or 3rd round who can be a valuable rotation piece.

Hope so. Might as well add that Quinn probably doesn't get extended either.

 

[unionjack8]

Still need a real 3t. Have done since forever really....

 

[LatinMind]

i didnt know nebraska was a nfl team. I know the teams quinn has been playing on are though

 

[xwalker]

i didnt know nebraska was a nfl team. I know the teams quinn has been playing on are though

https://gamepass.nfl.com/packages?redirected=true&icampaign=nfl-nav-gamepass

 

[Jumbo075]

This is truely a “what have you done lately” league. Folks keep talking about the last game against the Rams and how we got ran all over. I get it, but this is definitely a knee jerk mentality.

Dallas had the same scheme two years ago in the playoff game against the Packers and held them to 87 yards rushing,17yrds coming from Aaron Rodgers.

People choose to keep echoing this misconception that the 1T would have somehow changed the course of the Rams game.

And they keep writing new forums ab how we need to draft a big run stuffer as if it’s going to happen. THAT IS NOT THE MARINELLI SCHEME! Not sure how many other posters have to repeat this until people get it. Yeah, but I’m sure someone is sitting on their toilet reading this and believes they know more ab how this scheme should be run. Right on..

Just FYI, under this scheme the run defense has been pretty darn good: 4 of 5 years top 10.

2018- 5th ranked/ 3.8avg / 94.6yrd a game
2017- 8th/ 4.1 / 104.0
2016- 1st/ 3.8 / 83.5
2015- 22nd/ 4.2 / 120.9
2014- 8th/ 4.2 / 103.1

Two years before this scheme was implemented:

2013- ranked 27th in the league
2012- ranked 22nd

That said, let’s see how this defense will look with two (reliable) above average edge rushers in DLaw & Quinn. And let TCrawford actually concentrate on DT for which he signed his “big” contract for.. This defensive Line is looking very good and deep. And Dallas is more than likely going to add another ‘stud’ for Marenilli to mold. I personally like how our DL attacks. Yes, there will be moments where it breaks down and that’s what are talented LBers are there for. But to keep hearing people moan ab not having a fat guy in the middle is ridiculous. This scheme has proven it can shut RBs down and dominate. The Rams game was way more than ONE position.

People tend to forget that they other teams pay their players also, and they also have good players. Good players make plays. The Cowboys had a bad game against the Rams. It happens.