News: DMN: Big bonus within reach for Cowboys DE Greg Hardy

[eternaljester81]

I bet your one that wants to fire Garrett and have to pay 24 million for a brand new contract. There's a reason fans are fans and NFL execs are NFL execs.

I don't have to pay Garrett anything.

 

[sureletsrace]

I think it's a dangerous line to cross if you don't allow those guys to try to hit their incentive bonuses. The last thing this team needs is for players across the NFL to think we're trying to screw them out of money.

 

[rynochop]

I don't have to pay Garrett anything.

But not thinking like someone who does..that's a fan thing

 

[eternaljester81]

My comment about Hardy was about saving cap money, how did you construe that to mean that I'm fine with wasting money?

 

[eternaljester81]

I think it's a dangerous line to cross if you don't allow those guys to try to hit their incentive bonuses. The last thing this team needs is for players across the NFL to think we're trying to screw them out of money.

I didn't thnk of it like that when I made my post, but I now agree completely. If a player can earn it, he deserves it.

 

[gimmesix]

Sit him and save the $500K.

I really don't understand why fans are against players being given a chance to earn bonus money. It's not like it's coming out of your pocket.

I suppose when you have an opportunity to earn extra money through your performance, you'd love it if someone was essentially saying find a way to not give it to him.

If Hardy gets two sacks against Washington, he deserves his bonus. Sitting him would mark Jerry as a boss who finds a way to not keep his word and that's not who you want to be when shopping for free agents.

 

[foofighters]

I bet your one that wants to fire Garrett and have to pay 24 million for a brand new contract. There's a reason fans are fans and NFL execs are NFL execs.

1. 24 mil is nothing if that's what it takes to run him out of town.
2. Jerry runs this team as fan so your statement is basically invalid.

 

[eternaljester81]

I really don't understand why fans are against players being given a chance to earn bonus money. It's not like it's coming out of your pocket.

I suppose when you have an opportunity to earn extra money through your performance, you'd love it if someone was essentially saying find a way to not give it to him.

If Hardy gets two sacks against Washington, he deserves his bonus. Sitting him would mark Jerry as a boss who finds a way to not keep his word and that's not who you want to be when shopping for free agents.

Please see what I said in the post above yours. I was thinking only in cap numbers, and admitted I was wrong.

 

[gimmesix]

Please see what I said in the post above yours. I was thinking only in cap numbers, and admitted I was wrong.

Read it after I posted.

I still think we look at cap numbers much differently than teams do. They don't build these bonuses into contracts to give themselves an out for not paying them. They build them in to protect themselves from paying money a player doesn't deserve. If they earn it, I don't think the teams mind paying it.

 

[eternaljester81]

Read it after I posted.

I still think we look at cap numbers much differently than teams do. They don't build these bonuses into contracts to give themselves an out for not paying them. They build them in to protect themselves from paying money a player doesn't deserve. If they earn it, I don't think the teams mind paying it.

Agreed. That's money teams should want to pay.

 

[mahoneybill]

I hope he signs. He's been good despite sitting in the garage for a year. I expected him to be great, but he's not a Demarcus Ware type. Hardy is a brutal player that brings it every play. Teammates seem to like him. Probably would benefit greatly from a better DT next to him. And it wouldn't kill Marinelli to blitz a little more and create some havoc.

A year of training camp, (hopefully) of good QB play and playing with a substantial lead more often, continued improvement by DLaw and the other young DL guys like Irving and Gregory, maybe add a stud front seven guy in the draft like Jack or Nkemdiche...could be a perfect storm for a great DL in 2017.

nice summary. Agree on the rust part. being off for that time had to effect his level of performance

 

[jazzcat22]

Sit him and save the $500K.

no
Play him, get him the bonus. This will play into him wanting to stay here for a longer term deal. If you sit him, it creates bad rapport.
Not only with Hardy, but with current players as well and potential FA's.
Why would they want to come to a team that sits players to save a few $$$$....pay the bonus, then others will want to come here too. All about the incentives.

 

[Section446]

Good for him, I hope he gets it.

 

[Nightman]

I didn't thnk of it like that when I made my post, but I now agree completely. If a player can earn it, he deserves it.

You were justified in thinking about the cap. 500k saved this year can be rolled over to next year.

The question is if DAL wants Hardy and/or McFadden back next year. If they don't then save the cap space but if they want them back then let them try to earn it.

I feel Hardy's next contract will also include sack incentives, so they should treat him right.

 

[CCBoy]

The talk around Commanders Park is of the team resting its starters for the upcoming game in Dallas. The game is meaningless in the standings for the Commanders and many are thinking that the best thing to do would be to treat it like a preseason game and give many starters either limited playing time or none at all.

But here is one problem with doing that. When you’re playing in the preseason, you opponent is doing the same thing, putting in more and more backups as the game goes on. The Cowboys won’t be doing that. They will play their starters from beginning to end.

And the Commanders need to be concerned about one Dallas starter in particular—defensive end Greg Hardy...

http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/redsk...t-risks-resting-starters?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo

 

[FaSho]

I've been back and forth and whether I want him to stay.

I doubt any other team would give him a massive contract though. If it's reasonable, as I believe it would be, he's definitely worth keeping.

If Gregory had shown more promise (I know he's been hurt) I'd say just forget Hardy. But with a training camp and offseason, he could return to form.

 

[big dog cowboy]

You can never have too many pass rushers.

 

[Fredd]

give Hardy his chance to get his bonus, it is slipper slope of free agency if you don't give him the opportunity....

...also, while the sack totals are down for team as a whole, if our offense could be less "offensive" and actually score some points, get a lead, and force the other team to HAVE to throw more, then our DLine would get more sacks because of more opportunities...

...I love Hardy, let him get his bonus and bring him back

 

[unionjack8]

guy missed a whole year. next year he will be back to normal

 

[Future]

Hardy is a really good player and I'd love him back but we can't pay him 10M + per year.
At 8 or 9MM /yr I am in provided the guarantee isn't insane.

Hardy has played all along the DL and he does play hard with severe force.

I think 9 is probably about where the market is...that's what Jerry Hughes just got.

Hardy's number will go down a bit because his sack totals just aren't there and the PR thing will push it down as well, plus, I think he's the kind of guy that would give a bit of a discount to Dallas for taking a chance on him. I think maybe something like 4 year/32 million, give or take, should get it done.