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Colombo not without blame
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Dallas Cowboys offensive left tackle Flozell Adams has rightfully been criticized on his penchant for false starts. Adams had six false-start penalties last season, ranking among the league's top five in the category for the third consecutive seasons.

Adams has 24 false-start penalties in 48 games during the last three regular seasons. Marc Colombo, who mans the right side, has had the same problem at nearly the same rate. He has 20 false-start penalties in 41 games during the last three regular seasons.

Add one mistake by Doug Free last season, and the Cowboys have 45 false-start penalites by their tackles in the last three regular seasons. Only one team has had more false starts by its tackles in that span: dreadful Oakland, with 47.

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Interesting numbers for certain.

As much as I see fans wanting to get rid of Adams, I see too many who do not put Colombo through the same sort of analysis.

I suppose that play on DeAngelo Hall still has him near and dear to people's hearts.

I don't think his job should be safe. He was the major issue in Minnesota. He was the one being dominated by Ray Edwards.

It will be a great disappointment if Doug Free is not permitted to compete for the right tackle job.
 

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This suggests our tackles have slow feet and are trying to get as much of an advantage over the defense as they can.

This is the drawback to having the biggest offensive line in the league.
 

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He's probably the single biggest reason we didnt advance to the conference championship. He gets a pass (perhaps rightfully so) due to his injury, however.

I've brought up his unusual amount of penalties numerous times before. In either 07 or 08 (can't remember which one) he actually led the team in false starts, but no one had a clue, because Madden always harped on Flozell.
 

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I have been bringing up the fact Columbo has as many FS as Flozell for the last three years.
 

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NextGenBoys;3282382 said:
This suggests our tackles have slow feet and are trying to get as much of an advantage over the defense as they can.
That's pretty much my opinion. I think these two are above average tackles, but yeah, this probably isn't a discipline issue as much as it is a competitive issue. Both are probably somewhat slower than many of their defensive counterparts (especially on playoff teams which explains their performances in recent years), and both know it, so they try to get as much of a jump on the DE as they can, and often they get caught.

We can either live with this, or we can try to find quicker tackles.

I'm not advocating either, especially finding other tackles, because I know that powerful, quick, and athletic tackles aren't exactly a dime a dozen. Just saying it is what it is.
 

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Alexander;3282377 said:
Colombo not without blame
10:10 AM Fri, Feb 19, 2010 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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Dallas Cowboys offensive left tackle Flozell Adams has rightfully been criticized on his penchant for false starts. Adams had six false-start penalties last season, ranking among the league's top five in the category for the third consecutive seasons.

Adams has 24 false-start penalties in 48 games during the last three regular seasons. Marc Colombo, who mans the right side, has had the same problem at nearly the same rate. He has 20 false-start penalties in 41 games during the last three regular seasons.

Add one mistake by Doug Free last season, and the Cowboys have 45 false-start penalites by their tackles in the last three regular seasons. Only one team has had more false starts by its tackles in that span: dreadful Oakland, with 47.

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Interesting numbers for certain.

As much as I see fans wanting to get rid of Adams, I see too many who do not put Colombo through the same sort of analysis.

I suppose that play on DeAngelo Hall still has him near and dear to people's hearts.

I don't think his job should be safe. He was the major issue in Minnesota. He was the one being dominated by Ray Edwards.

It will be a great disappointment if Doug Free is not permitted to compete for the right tackle job.

I feel the same way. Colombo was horrific in that Minnesota game and was merely average before his injury. Free should be competing for a starting tackle position, be it on the left or the right. All three should be evaluated and the best two should start. If Free is rated as one of the top 2 he should start.
 

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theogt;3282395 said:
He's probably the single biggest reason we didnt advance to the conference championship. He gets a pass (perhaps rightfully so) due to his injury, however..

He should not of started in Minny. Doug was there and playing well. Why screw that up? Because some dumb rule that starters don't lose their jobs due to injury? What a crock.
 

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Hook'em#11;3282433 said:
He should not of started in Minny. Doug was there and playing well. Why screw that up? Because some dumb rule that starters don't lose their jobs due to injury? What a crock.
The sad part was that Colombo really did not play all that well against the Eagles either. It just did not stick out much because we won so easily. But it should have been a red flag to the coaches when they saw him hobbling around against the Eagles that he would have a tough time getting off the snap in the loud Metrodome. It was a gross miscalculation by the coaching staff.
 

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Alexander;3282377 said:
Colombo not without blame
10:10 AM Fri, Feb 19, 2010 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
Gerry Fraley/Reporter E-mail | News tips

Dallas Cowboys offensive left tackle Flozell Adams has rightfully been criticized on his penchant for false starts. Adams had six false-start penalties last season, ranking among the league's top five in the category for the third consecutive seasons.

Adams has 24 false-start penalties in 48 games during the last three regular seasons. Marc Colombo, who mans the right side, has had the same problem at nearly the same rate. He has 20 false-start penalties in 41 games during the last three regular seasons.

Add one mistake by Doug Free last season, and the Cowboys have 45 false-start penalites by their tackles in the last three regular seasons. Only one team has had more false starts by its tackles in that span: dreadful Oakland, with 47.

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Interesting numbers for certain.

As much as I see fans wanting to get rid of Adams, I see too many who do not put Colombo through the same sort of analysis.

I suppose that play on DeAngelo Hall still has him near and dear to people's hearts.

I don't think his job should be safe. He was the major issue in Minnesota. He was the one being dominated by Ray Edwards.

It will be a great disappointment if Doug Free is not permitted to compete for the right tackle job.

I think many of us feel that if Flo did not get hurt in that game, Free would have probably replaced Columbo. I don't know if Columbo was just not 100%, just rusty or if he was just that inferior to Edwards but I really think Free would have went in for him later in the game if Flo had not gotten injured.
 

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I would like an OL heavy draft merely because every starter is in their 30s. All the talk surrounding replacing Adams is because he is the oldest, gives up the most sacks/hits/pressures, is the most penalized and costs the most. I'll take a 5 yard false start every other game if it means my QB stays clean though.
 

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I predict that Free beats out Colombo in training camp and we draft tackle in the first round.
 

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Jon88;3282491 said:
I predict that Free beats out Colombo in training camp and we draft tackle in the first round.
There's no chance, since he'll play backup left tackle all camp. He won't even be in competition with Colombo.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;3282483 said:
I think many of us feel that if Flo did not get hurt in that game, Free would have probably replaced Columbo. I don't know if Columbo was just not 100%, just rusty or if he was just that inferior to Edwards but I really think Free would have went in for him later in the game if Flo had not gotten injured.

I agree. Once Flo went down there were no options left. Even had Free started in place of Columbo once Flo went down Free would have moved to replace Flo and Columbo would have entered the game.
 

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If Flozell AND Colombo are the starters next year, expect another early exit from the playoffs. We need youth and fresh legs at the OT position. I'm okay with Flozell for another year, but Colombo needs to go in my opinion. It's Free's time to play.
 

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Flo gets most of the blame because LT are seen as the and all and be all of the QB's blindside Question how much does a LT get paid over a RT is their a financial difference.
 

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rockj7;3282521 said:
Flo gets most of the blame because LT are seen as the and all and be all of the QB's blindside Question how much does a LT get paid over a RT is their a financial difference.

I agree that may be the reason however once the ball is kicked off does it matter how much money a guy gets paid? I expect a guy making say 2 mill to not jump offside as much as the guy who is paid only 6 mill.
 

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Alexander;3282377 said:
Colombo not without blame
10:10 AM Fri, Feb 19, 2010 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
Gerry Fraley/Reporter E-mail | News tips

Dallas Cowboys offensive left tackle Flozell Adams has rightfully been criticized on his penchant for false starts. Adams had six false-start penalties last season, ranking among the league's top five in the category for the third consecutive seasons.

Adams has 24 false-start penalties in 48 games during the last three regular seasons. Marc Colombo, who mans the right side, has had the same problem at nearly the same rate. He has 20 false-start penalties in 41 games during the last three regular seasons.

Add one mistake by Doug Free last season, and the Cowboys have 45 false-start penalites by their tackles in the last three regular seasons. Only one team has had more false starts by its tackles in that span: dreadful Oakland, with 47.

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Interesting numbers for certain.

As much as I see fans wanting to get rid of Adams, I see too many who do not put Colombo through the same sort of analysis.

I suppose that play on DeAngelo Hall still has him near and dear to people's hearts.

I don't think his job should be safe. He was the major issue in Minnesota. He was the one being dominated by Ray Edwards.

It will be a great disappointment if Doug Free is not permitted to compete for the right tackle job.

I have argued about free over taking Columbo's spot. I thought columbo despite his heart and physciallity, is not as atheltic anymore (not that he ever was overly athletic). he has lost a lot of lateral mobility and thus struggled against more athletic pass rushers. He also got a lot of help from the TEs in pass blocking. Adams despite everything was more so able to take on blockers one on one, mainly because he has a little better technique and he is so big that once he gets his hands on you, you are done. plus he was mostly able to force pass rushers wide and buy romo time.

we gave up 37 sacks this season and we have one of the most mobile QBs in the league famous for his escability. 37 ranks about middle of NFL. that's bad. adams gave up 8. I am not sure how many columbo gave up. But I thought our pass blocking and over all offensive tempo was better with Free.

free played very well in the toughest time of the year and I chastised the coaches for letting columbo start against the eagles, at the time the most important game for dallas in 12 years. why mess with something that was obviously working so well specially that free played outstandingly the week before against the same eagles.

time to let adams and columbo go into the sunset. I think drafting a LT is more critical than the FS spot. Yes I like to get more from the FS spot but our defense was very good. what is obviously holding this team back the the OL play.
 

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theogt;3282395 said:
He's probably the single biggest reason we didnt advance to the conference championship. He gets a pass (perhaps rightfully so) due to his injury, however.

I've brought up his unusual amount of penalties numerous times before. In either 07 or 08 (can't remember which one) he actually led the team in false starts, but no one had a clue, because Madden always harped on Flozell.


I don't blame him. I blame the coaches for not having the balls to continue to start Free and let columbo come back and play despite having not played for a very extended period.

columbo did his best, which obviously is not his fault. he is limited. plus their DL kicked our arses from every angle possible. it was the total OL failure. it reminded me of the Giants game three years ago.
 

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Jon88;3282491 said:
I predict that Free beats out Colombo in training camp and we draft tackle in the first round.


I hope so. we need to revamp that OL somewhere. I don't mind grabbing Lupati to replace Kosier. Then Kosier can be the back up for the three inside spots for a year, while brewster gets his feet wet.

we may take a tackle if one falls but wouldn't surprise us to take one in the 2nd and have him learn the ropes a year behind adams.


but then we also got to replace groude. maybe Pouncey.

there are just too many spots and not enough draft picks. this would have been a great year to have multiple picks in the 2nd round.


plus, I think we are paying the price for a huge mistake from last year. we had an opportunity to draft Max Unger, when we had him graded as a first round talent. we got cute and waited and seattle traded up two spots ahead of us and picked him. I was screaming mad. we had 11 draft picks and we could have traded a couple of lower ones to move two freaking spots in the 2nd round to get a guy we had graded as a first rounder.

now, we got to draft a center, guard and tackle.
 
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