DMN Blog: Grossman whines about Wilson

[LittleBoyBlue]

Human nature, blame the guy who just left for your own shortcomings. :laugh2:

"a man is not truly a failure until he blames somebody else for his shortcomings"

 

[Bungarian]

He needs to remember how to handle a snap.

 

[AbeBeta]

Someone remind me here - Wade wasn't our top choice for QB coach was he? Didn't we want a college guy?

 

[Crown Royal]

Someone remind me here - Wade wasn't our top choice for QB coach was he? Didn't we want a college guy?

I think we lost david lee to arkansas. All I can think of.

 

[sago1]

I became a Bears fan back in the late 50s/early 60s when they were the monsters of the midway. Of course living on the East Coast I rarely got a chance to see them play but that didn't matter cause the sports magazines always carried enough stuff about some of their great players. Anyway, lack of quality QBs has always been their downfall. I remember when Jim Finks was GM and their were a great team--on the defensive side of the ball--but their passing game was poor. Finks was once quoted as saying in effect that QB position really wasn't that important. It wasn't until somebody in that organization (actually think it was Finks who was forced draft QB McMahon) that the Bears able to put it together and win the SB. But after 2-3 years he wasn't that good anymore & was gone.

Now here the Bears are again with a QB whose a lousy "bus driver". Like yo all said, Grossman's problem is between his ears but sure is easy for him to blame his departed QB coach. Thank God we got Romo who gives credit to Parcells and thereby shows his class while taking advantage of opportunity to learn from Testy and now from Garrett/Wilson/Johnson.

BTW: Despite my liking for Bears years ago, I've been a Cowboy fan since the 70s but this article brought back those old days.

 

[TunaFan33]

I became a Bears fan back in the late 50s/early 60s when they were the monsters of the midway. Of course living on the East Coast I rarely got a chance to see them play but that didn't matter cause the sports magazines always carried enough stuff about some of their great players. Anyway, lack of quality QBs has always been their downfall. I remember when Jim Finks was GM and their were a great team--on the defensive side of the ball--but their passing game was poor. Finks was once quoted as saying in effect that QB position really wasn't that important. It wasn't until somebody in that organization (actually think it was Finks who was forced draft QB McMahon) that the Bears able to put it together and win the SB. But after 2-3 years he wasn't that good anymore & was gone.

Now here the Bears are again with a QB whose a lousy "bus driver". Like yo all said, Grossman's problem is between his ears but sure is easy for him to blame his departed QB coach. Thank God we got Romo who gives credit to Parcells and thereby shows his class while taking advantage of opportunity to learn from Testy and now from Garrett/Wilson/Johnson.

BTW: Despite my liking for Bears years ago, I've been a Cowboy fan since the 70s but this article brought back those old days.

Griese may not be a GREAT QB, hardly by any stretch of the means, but with the RIGHT personnel surrounding him, he SHINES. The Bears have a very good OL, lots of weapons on O(a bruiser runner, speedy receivers, excellent TEs, etc), an outstanding STs, and one of the best Ds out there. As odd as this may sound-with Griese in there, this team will be very dangerous.

Too bad this ONE bad apple is going to bring this team down.

BTW-Jim Finks was also the GM of the Saints for years-they too, like the Bears, never put any emphasis on the QB position(until recently, that is).

 

[Angus]

I dunno what to think about Wilson. On the one hand, I don't know what success he has had, other than being good friends with Jerry. On the other, he hasn't had much talent with which to work.

He is a good friend of Jason Garrett, too.

 

[TunaFan33]

He is a good friend of Jason Garrett, too.

To me-Rex was Bad DRAFTING, NOT a result of BAD Coaching.

Not saying Kyle Orton is a world-beater, but when he played a couple of weeks ago, while they weren't exactly lighting up the scoreboard, the Bears nonetheless were able to control the TOP(and give their defense a breather) through their running game and a decent short passing game.

The Bears D didn't look bad in that Super Bowl-when Rex was leading them to one 3/out after another, they just got whiffed too easy.

 

[Marktui]

"He's come in and specifically worked on the things I didn't do so well last year," Grossman, 27, says of the 32-year-old Hamilton, who coached with the 49ers in 2006. "Stepping up in the pocket, making sure I have two hands on the ball, going through my reads and staying balanced at the top of my drop.


LOL, I don't know about you Rex, but those things should have been taught to you in high school and college. "Going thru reads", give me a break, you learn that in high school. Maybe he should blame Spurrier first. Hahahahaha....

 

[FLcowboy]

SORRY FOR REPOST.........Grossman whines about Wilson
http://cowboys.beloblog.com/archives/2007/08/grossman_whines_about_wilson.html

The Cowboys haven't cornered the market on blaming a departed coach for past failures. Turnover-prone Bears QB Rex Grossman pointed the finger at Wade Wilson, who is now working with Tony Romo in Valley Ranch.

Grossman raved about new Bears QB coach Pep Hamilton to the Sporting News while working in a shot at Wilson.

"He's come in and specifically worked on the things I didn't do so well last year," Grossman, 27, says of the 32-year-old Hamilton, who coached with the 49ers in 2006. "Stepping up in the pocket, making sure I have two hands on the ball, going through my reads and staying balanced at the top of my drop.

"To not have to do that on your own or try to make someone help you with something is just unbelievable."

Fortunately for Grossman, plenty of folks are willing to help him these days. The Chicago Sun-Times tracked down a bunch of fifth graders who offered him pointers on the difficult task of taking snaps.

Posted by Tim MacMahon at 11:20 PM (E-mail this entry)

Grossman didn't look so good the other night. That wasn't Wade's coaching that was the problem, but rather Grossman's lack of talent at the pro level, and the Bears' inability to recognize it.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I'm calling "BS" on Grossman.

I'm sure Wilson, being QB coach, refused to help Grossman with anything associated with quarterbacking the team-- he probably just assisted him in finding a restaurant for supper.

Maybe Grossman is just stoopid?

 

[joseephuss]

I'm calling "BS" on Grossman.

I'm sure Wilson, being QB coach, refused to help Grossman with anything associated with quarterbacking the team-- he probably just assisted him in finding a restaurant for supper.

Maybe Grossman is just stoopid?

Grossman is just another in the line of Spurrier QBs that can't make the jump to the NFL. Maybe Wade is not a good coach and could not help Grossman, but I doubt even the best QB coach in the NFL could really make Grossman into a good QB.

 

[Aikbach]

I think Wilson is a good QB coach, Grossman problems are taking place between the ears not the mechanics.

Wade Wilson was quarterbacking the Minnesota Vikings during the Walker Trade, he was the signal caller the Vikes trusted to take them all the way, he did take them to one conference championship and made the pro bowl twice I believe.

He wasn't a bad qb, he just couldn't beat Joe Montana in the playoffs.

 

[DallasEast]

I'm calling "BS" on Grossman.

I'm sure Wilson, being QB coach, refused to help Grossman with anything associated with quarterbacking the team-- he probably just assisted him in finding a restaurant for supper.

Maybe Grossman is just stoopid?

Personally, I don't believe that Grossman is lying about his observations of Wilson's coaching skills. No, I think that he's basing his observations on things which Wilson actually taught him, but which he immediately forgot before every game. Things like stepping up in the pocket, two hands on the ball, reading defenses, taking proper drops, etc., etc.

...wait a second!

 

[dargonking999]

so my question is, if he was to blame for your failures Rex. Then who was the reason for you having such a hot start to the season? Or did you forget how many good games you had at the beggining of the season. Did you lose track of all those TD's you had, when you started throwing INT's every play?

If he's the reason for you failing so bad at the end of the season, then he's the reason why you were so damn good to start the season.

 

[joseephuss]

so my question is, if he was to blame for your failures Rex. Then who was the reason for you having such a hot start to the season? Or did you forget how many good games you had at the beggining of the season. Did you lose track of all those TD's you had, when you started throwing INT's every play?

If he's the reason for you failing so bad at the end of the season, then he's the reason why you were so damn good to start the season.

And so bad this pre-season.

 

[alancdc]

SORRY FOR REPOST.........Grossman whines about Wilson
http://cowboys.beloblog.com/archives/2007/08/grossman_whines_about_wilson.html

The Cowboys haven't cornered the market on blaming a departed coach for past failures. Turnover-prone Bears QB Rex Grossman pointed the finger at Wade Wilson, who is now working with Tony Romo in Valley Ranch.

Grossman raved about new Bears QB coach Pep Hamilton to the Sporting News while working in a shot at Wilson.

"He's come in and specifically worked on the things I didn't do so well last year," Grossman, 27, says of the 32-year-old Hamilton, who coached with the 49ers in 2006. "Stepping up in the pocket, making sure I have two hands on the ball, going through my reads and staying balanced at the top of my drop.

"To not have to do that on your own or try to make someone help you with something is just unbelievable."

Fortunately for Grossman, plenty of folks are willing to help him these days. The Chicago Sun-Times tracked down a bunch of fifth graders who offered him pointers on the difficult task of taking snaps.

Posted by Tim MacMahon at 11:20 PM (E-mail this entry)

It really lookes to be helping him Monday. He only threw one pick and had 3 fumbles! Great job.

 

[dogunwo]

From what I've seen of Rex so far this preseason, he needs to shut the hell up.

 

[IndianaCowboyFan]

I hope the stick with Rex forever and let Orton go next year. I think he would be a great addition for the Cowboys as a backup. Please be advised I am a Purdue homer.

 

[gimmesix]

Maybe Wade is not a good coach and could not help Grossman, but I doubt even the best QB coach in the NFL could really make Grossman into a good QB.

I do think we have to consider the possibility. Sure, he hasn't had much to work with, but that doesn't rule out the possibility that he might not be able to do much with what he's given.

Jerry seems to really like Wilson and think a lot of him as a QB coach, but I can't say there have been any tangible results of his coaching.

I do feel better, though, that we have Garrett on hand to help in that regard. Between the two of them, and Romo's apparent penchant to seek out advice from any coach willing to listen, I think Romo will pick up some good things to add to his game.