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[Cbz40]

Is the backup nose tackle already on the roster?

12:51 PM Thu, Mar 19, 2009 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
Tim MacMahon

Todd Archer's column ( http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149131) focuses on three players on the roster who have opportunities to carve out significant roles. One is Junior Siavii.

He was among the Cowboys' final cuts last year and was quickly re-signed after the 2008 season ended. When he was released, Wade Phillips said Siavii would end up on a roster somewhere because of the work he put in during the preseason. I don't think it was a play for the Hard Knocks cameras. I think Phillips was being truthful.

The Cowboys contemplated bringing him back in the middle of last season when they were getting little from Tank Johnson, but they chose to stick with Johnson. Now Johnson is out and Siavii is back. Having spent last off-season and camp with the Cowboys, Siavii understands the system. Once a second-round pick, there is ability, but he needs to be in top shape.

If the Cowboys have confidence in the 6-5, 330-pound Siavii, that could knock nose tackle down the team's list of draft priorities. If they don't, the Cowboys might need to use one of their first few picks to find a guy who can play 10-15 snaps per game to give Jay Ratliff some rest. (Don't think Boston College's Ron Brace will be on the board at No. 51.)

OK, back to March Madness

 

[Rampage]

he doesn't look that big at all. I hope he isn't the backup NT.

 

[irvin4evs]

Nein.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

The entire Cowboys organization from front office to fans have started growing very weary of the complete turn-stall of an Offensive Line that exists in Dallas almost every season and especially in clutch time.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

If the Cowboys have confidence in the 6-5, 330-pound Siavii, that could knock nose tackle down the team's list of draft priorities.

How can a team have enough confidence in a NT who is a former second rounder that can't stick on a 53-man roster anywhere in the NFL, enuogh so to warrant not drafting NT in the draft? Ok, so maybe this player has shown a work ethic, but appearently that's it; and that's not enuogh. So while it''s good that the Cobboys will bring him to camp (who knows, he may stick this time on the 53) I still fully expect them to target NT in April.

 

[ddh33]

You don't have to have the a great bakcup NT when your starter is a pro-bowler. I think fans need to understand that a little more. You don't need 53 guys with pro-bowl talent.

I figure that Siavii can't be worse than Tank was. If you find someone better, you can still add someone. But I think Siavii can do the job, and I think Wade knows it.

 

[irvin4evs]

The entire Cowboys organization from front office to fans have started growing very weary of the complete turn-stall of an Offensive Line that exists in Dallas almost every season and especially in clutch time.

John Burdett Wittenoom (24 October 1788 – 23 January 1855) was a colonial clergyman who was the second Anglican clergyman to perform religious services in the Swan River Colony, Australia, soon after its establishment in 1829.


He was born in England at Newark, Nottinghamshire. His first wife, with whom he had five sons, died while he was teaching in England. Shortly after, he decided to emigrate to Western Australia arriving on the Wanstead in January 1830 with his mother, sister and four sons, John Burdett, Henry, Frederick Dirck, and Charles.


He singlehandedly conducted services alternately every Sunday at Perth, Guildford and Fremantle until 1836.


In later years he ran a grammar school and pursued his interest in education. In 1839 he remarried and in 1847 he was appointed to the colony's first education committee and was the inaugural chairman for eight years after it became the Board of Education.


After his death in 1855, his wife and daughter took charge of the government girls' school. A tablet in his memory is in St George's Cathedral, Perth.


John Wittenoom's daughter Mary was the mother of Edith Cowan. The progeny of Wittenoom's fifth son, Charles Wittenoom became notable individuals in the history of Western Australia.

 

[NeonNinja]

I believe in Wade with the defense and if he thinks he can be the backup NT than i'm for it.

 

[Woods]

Well, if we don't take a NT in the Draft, or we don't take one until the end of the Draft, I guess then we know that Wade may really like Siavii.

And as for Tank beating out Siavii on the active roster.

Here's one possible rationale:

JJ/Wade invested a lot of resources into Tank. JJ with Goodell, using Calvin Hill, counceling, the Cowboys' reputation on being able to salvage projects, etc. Plus, Tank was effective with the Bears prior to getting busted. So, JJ/Wade perhaps figured that it was just a matter of time until Tank "got it".

Remember everyone in TC raving about Tank's first step? He was sooo fast off the line and quick to penetrate into the backfield.

JJ and the staff probably figured that was eventually going to translate in the games at some point.

By mid-season, it still did not happen. But they stuck with Tank regardless. That light was going to come on sooner or later with Tank's ability.

In the end, it was a tease. For whatever reasons, Tank could not get the job done.

This may have been a case of taking a proven player (Tank) over an unproven player, even though in TC the proven player hadn't really shown much. But everyone thought he would sooner or later.

Just a theory . . . .

 

[Oh_Canada]

How can a team have enough confidence in a NT who is a former second rounder that can't stick on a 53-man roster anywhere in the NFL, enuogh so to warrant not drafting NT in the draft? Ok, so maybe this player has shown a work ethic, but appearently that's it; and that's not enuogh. So while it''s good that the Cobboys will bring him to camp (who knows, he may stick this time on the 53) I still fully expect them to target NT in April.

What you mean like the reigning DPOY James Harrison who was cut twice before sticking with the Steelers? There are various reason why guys don't make it, sometimes it's a lack of maturity at a younger age, sometimes it's the scheme, sometimes it's competition. Sometimes, a guy just fits the right team, with the right scheme at the right point of his career....who knows, maybe it's Siavvi.
If the Cowboys don't draft an NT very high, than I am confident they think they have something in this guy which is a good enough reason for me.

 

[Woods]

What you mean like the reigning DPOY James Harrison who was cut twice before sticking with the Steelers? There are various reason why guys don't make it, sometimes it's a lack of maturity at a younger age, sometimes it's the scheme, sometimes it's competition. Sometimes, a guy just fits the right team, with the right scheme at the right point of his career....who knows, maybe it's Siavvi.
If the Cowboys don't draft an NT very high, than I am confident they think they have something in this guy which is a good enough reason for me.

IF I remember correctly, the issue with Siavii was his maturity coming out of college. He didn't take the game seriously enough, and as a result, didn't get in shape either.

In fact, I think at the end of pre-season Wade mentioned to Siavii, around the time he cut him, that he was proud of him and Siavii had become a man. And that he was in shape.

Something to that effect, anyway.

 

[adamknite]

What you mean like the reigning DPOY James Harrison who was cut twice before sticking with the Steelers? There are various reason why guys don't make it, sometimes it's a lack of maturity at a younger age, sometimes it's the scheme, sometimes it's competition. Sometimes, a guy just fits the right team, with the right scheme at the right point of his career....who knows, maybe it's Siavvi.
If the Cowboys don't draft an NT very high, than I am confident they think they have something in this guy which is a good enough reason for me.

Harrison wasn't a second round pick.

Cutting a 2nd round pick after 2 seasons says a lot more than cutting an undrafted player twice.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Harrison wasn't a second round pick.

Cutting a 2nd round pick after 2 seasons says a lot more than cutting an undrafted player twice.

Even more reason to think there is something to this guy...apparently he had enough ability to be drafted in the second round. Woods suggested he wasn't mature coming out of college, looks like this has changed.

 

[cowboyjoe]

Is the backup nose tackle already on the roster?
12:51 PM Thu, Mar 19, 2009 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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Todd Archer's column focuses on three players on the roster who have opportunities to carve out significant roles. One is Junior Siavii.

He was among the Cowboys' final cuts last year and was quickly re-signed after the 2008 season ended. When he was released, Wade Phillips said Siavii would end up on a roster somewhere because of the work he put in during the preseason. I don't think it was a play for the Hard Knocks cameras. I think Phillips was being truthful.
The Cowboys contemplated bringing him back in the middle of last season when they were getting little from Tank Johnson, but they chose to stick with Johnson. Now Johnson is out and Siavii is back. Having spent last off-season and camp with the Cowboys, Siavii understands the system. Once a second-round pick, there is ability, but he needs to be in top shape.


If the Cowboys have confidence in the 6-5, 330-pound Siavii, that could knock nose tackle down the team's list of draft priorities. If they don't, the Cowboys might need to use one of their first few picks to find a guy who can play 10-15 snaps per game to give Jay Ratliff some rest. (Don't think Boston College's Ron Brace will be on the board at No. 51.)

OK, back to March Madness.

 

[5Stars]

I guess you didm't see this already posted?

 

[cowboyjoe]

no, didnt see it sorry

 

[Monster Heel]

I can only hope this is a smoke screen.

 

[speedkilz88]

I wish they would have had the foresight to cut Tank towards the end of the season and see if the guy could contribute in Tank's backup role. The team sure wasn't getting anything from Tank.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

John Burdett Wittenoom (24 October 1788 – 23 January 1855) was a colonial clergyman who was the second Anglican clergyman to perform religious services in the Swan River Colony, Australia, soon after its establishment in 1829.


He was born in England at Newark, Nottinghamshire. His first wife, with whom he had five sons, died while he was teaching in England. Shortly after, he decided to emigrate to Western Australia arriving on the Wanstead in January 1830 with his mother, sister and four sons, John Burdett, Henry, Frederick Dirck, and Charles.


He singlehandedly conducted services alternately every Sunday at Perth, Guildford and Fremantle until 1836.


In later years he ran a grammar school and pursued his interest in education. In 1839 he remarried and in 1847 he was appointed to the colony's first education committee and was the inaugural chairman for eight years after it became the Board of Education.


After his death in 1855, his wife and daughter took charge of the government girls' school. A tablet in his memory is in St George's Cathedral, Perth.


John Wittenoom's daughter Mary was the mother of Edith Cowan. The progeny of Wittenoom's fifth son, Charles Wittenoom became notable individuals in the history of Western Australia.

 

[DeaconBlues]

John Burdett Wittenoom (24 October 1788 – 23 January 1855) was a colonial clergyman who was the second Anglican clergyman to perform religious services in the Swan River Colony, Australia, soon after its establishment in 1829.


He was born in England at Newark, Nottinghamshire. His first wife, with whom he had five sons, died while he was teaching in England. Shortly after, he decided to emigrate to Western Australia arriving on the Wanstead in January 1830 with his mother, sister and four sons, John Burdett, Henry, Frederick Dirck, and Charles.


He singlehandedly conducted services alternately every Sunday at Perth, Guildford and Fremantle until 1836.


In later years he ran a grammar school and pursued his interest in education. In 1839 he remarried and in 1847 he was appointed to the colony's first education committee and was the inaugural chairman for eight years after it became the Board of Education.


After his death in 1855, his wife and daughter took charge of the government girls' school. A tablet in his memory is in St George's Cathedral, Perth.


John Wittenoom's daughter Mary was the mother of Edith Cowan. The progeny of Wittenoom's fifth son, Charles Wittenoom became notable individuals in the history of Western Australia.

I wonder if Charles could play NT?? Might be a keeper.