DMN Blog: Jerry Jones' faith in Tony Romo is high... will be better without T.O.

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khiladi;2702602 said:
Nice attempt at playing the Romo-card, as if people defending Owens have to somehow attack Romo. The game is tired. As if people defending Garrett, somehow negates implicating Romo... Everybody has their issues, but the problem is Garrett magnifies them for everybody with his crappy play-calling...


I've never had a need to take a shot at Romo, Wiliams, Garrett or anyone else in making my case for Owens.

He was a very good player.
He practiced and played hard.
He was the best WR we've had since Irvin.
His 3 yr production with us surpassed all expectations.
He was a 2007 ALL-PRO. Not Pro-Bowler, ALL-PRO. That means he was considered no worse than the 2nd best WR in football.

But I'm not an Owens guy. I'm a Cowboys fan. I except Jerry's decision and understand it must be what he believes is in the teams best interest.
 

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Mash;2702533 said:
hehehe....Some posters logic is "what have we won with TO here?" and I guess that same logic can be applied to Romo....you can even go as far as saying neither Carter or Romo have won a playoff game even tho Romo has had a consistant offensive scheme and better talent around him :rolleyes:

So I guess you can make that case for any player :)

I think we all agree that Romo needs to make better decisions.
and I also think that we all agree that TO made defences respect him and therefore open up more opportunities for his teammates.

Was TO a problem.....maybe....was he a problem big enough to make this team fail to win a playoff game?...fail to make this team better? I dont know....and I guess thats where the alot of posters take sides.....

Lets just hope Roy Williams becomes the player we need him to be and Romo does clean up his mistakes. If those things happen...this team will win IMHO.

Best post in the thread thus far IMHO... :thumbup:

I just have to add that hopefully dumb & dumber step up to do their part as coaches too. That also has to happen in order for the team to win. We shall see.
 

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khiladi;2702615 said:
The more I look at the move of Jerry, the more I think TO was released purely because of perception as it relates to the new stadium coming out. He doesn't want the show created by TO and players like Pac-man to divert the potential media attention paid to how great he is in bringing forth his revolutionary new stadium.

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khiladi;2702615 said:
The more I look at the move of Jerry, the more I think TO was released purely because of perception as it relates to the new stadium coming out. He doesn't want the show created by TO and players like Pac-man to divert the potential media attention paid to how great he is in bringing forth his revolutionary new stadium.

You're insane if you think Jerry ate $9M and cut his most talented player simply because of "perception." This is the same Jerry who wants every ounce of publicity he can grab, no matter how good or bad.

Keepin TO would have meant more 24/7 ESPN coverage all day every day next season. In Jerry's World, that is free advertising.

TO was let go because the coaches hated him, Romo was sick of him, he was losing a step, and he helped create a divided locker. Even players defending him have alluded to that.

Now whether we should have gotten rid of TO or the coaches is certainly a valid discussion point, but I don't believe for a minute that a guy who agrees to a reality show which will actually determine a roster spot would cut Owens because of "perception."
 

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wileedog;2702706 said:
You're insane if you think Jerry ate $9M and cut his most talented player simply because of "perception." This is the same Jerry who wants every ounce of publicity he can grab, no matter how good or bad.

Keepin TO would have meant more 24/7 ESPN coverage all day every day next season. In Jerry's World, that is free advertising.

TO was let go because the coaches hated him, Romo was sick of him, he was losing a step, and he helped create a divided locker. Even players defending him have alluded to that.


Now whether we should have gotten rid of TO or the coaches is certainly a valid discussion point, but I don't believe for a minute that a guy who agrees to a reality show which will actually determine a roster spot would cut Owens because of "perception."
Ah yes.. Which coaches hated him? Evidence? Maybe Garrett, definitely not Wade.Romo was sick of him? Evidence? Why did Jerry say he didn't even consult Romo as far as his decision to release Owens.. Why did Romo criticize Garrett and so did Williams, but never once criticized TO?Which players alluded to that? Every single player has come out and defended Owens, with only some 'anonymous' player saying otherwise. Where is your evidence?And actually, I'm quite logical in my thinking, considering the above. Jerry wants publicity, but he wants it focused on his new stadium... He doesn't want people talking about TO and Pac-man. The national media didn't even pay much attention to the fact that Dallas was introducing the most revolutionary stadium the world has seen last season. Plus, Jerry is marketing his stadium and doesn't even have a name for it. It surely isn't going to be Jerry's World.... You think marketing companies want Jerry to have players like Pac-man aboard while ESPN is talking about how he supposedly shot some guy at a strip-club? The fact is, that 9 million was a sunk cost no matter what, but that 9 million probably impacted a lot more in terms of marketing. Even Darren Woodson said it was probably about economics.
 

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khiladi;2703105 said:
Ah yes.. Which coaches hated him? Evidence? Maybe Garrett, definitely not Wade.Romo was sick of him? Evidence? Why did Jerry say he didn't even consult Romo as far as his decision to release Owens.. Why did Romo criticize Garrett and so did Williams, but never once criticized TO?Which players alluded to that? Every single player has come out and defended Owens, with only some 'anonymous' player saying otherwise. Where is your evidence?And actually, I'm quite logical in my thinking, considering the above. Jerry wants publicity, but he wants it focused on his new stadium... He doesn't want people talking about TO and Pac-man. The national media didn't even pay much attention to the fact that Dallas was introducing the most revolutionary stadium the world has seen last season. Plus, Jerry is marketing his stadium and doesn't even have a name for it. It surely isn't going to be Jerry's World.... You think marketing companies want Jerry to have players like Pac-man aboard while ESPN is talking about how he supposedly shot some guy at a strip-club? The fact is, that 9 million was a sunk cost no matter what, but that 9 million probably impacted a lot more in terms of marketing. Even Darren Woodson said it was probably about economics.

Well some one was sick of him, he's gone. Good damn ridden too.:thumbup:
 

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khiladi;2703105 said:
Ah yes.. Which coaches hated him? Evidence?

Maybe Garrett, definitely not Wade.
Dan Reeves was quoted several times saying there were huge differences in opinions amongst almost "everyone" in VR. I highly doubt that translates to "Jason Garrett didn't like Owens but everyone else in the entire organization loved and admired this consummate team player."

Furthermore, TO himself has said he falls asleep in meetings and is late to them constantly. He has been a constant challenge to authority his entire career, inciting players to take sides against coaches and management. What coach isn't just dying to have a player like that in their locker?

Oh and evidence on definitely not Wade? Blowing smoke in a PC doesn't count.

Romo was sick of him?Evidence?

From TO Homer Sam Hurd "I know it takes a lot of pressure off Tony Romo. A guy like Owens demands the ball and you want to get him the ball. Now Romo can look at all of us and see which one is open on any given play"

Throw in the late season body language everyone like to harp on so much and I think its obvious that Romo had had enough of forcing balls to the egomaniac.

Why did Jerry say he didn't even consult Romo as far as his decision to release Owens..
Gimme a break. Jerry lost anything approaching credibility with his daily spoutings a long time ago.

Why did Romo criticize Garrett and so did Williams, but never once criticized TO?
I don't know, why do you think? HINT: Which one was more likely to wind up on a Michael Irvin Radio Show blasting him back?

Furthermore, have you EVER heard a QB criticize his WRs?


Which players alluded to that? Every single player has come out and defended Owens, with only some 'anonymous' player saying otherwise.
Again, Hurd said there were "cliques", although he was quick to backpeddle off that statement. Ware said there was a definite need to refocus the locker, as did Ratliff IIRC.

No one is going to come out and publicly rip on Owens - why is that so hard to understand? But I think it is interesting that no one on the offense who is not a WR has said a word (other than Barber, who was part of the TO posse).


Where is your evidence?And actually, I'm quite logical in my thinking, considering the above. Jerry wants publicity, but he wants it focused on his new stadium... He doesn't want people talking about TO and Pac-man. The national media didn't even pay much attention to the fact that Dallas was introducing the most revolutionary stadium the world has seen last season. Plus, Jerry is marketing his stadium and doesn't even have a name for it. It surely isn't going to be Jerry's World.... You think marketing companies want Jerry to have players like Pac-man aboard while ESPN is talking about how he supposedly shot some guy at a strip-club? The fact is, that 9 million was a sunk cost no matter what, but that 9 million probably impacted a lot more in terms of marketing.
You ask me that question and then proceed with a wall of pure speculation.

Hey I'll give you this - perception probably did play a part. But if you think Jerry cut TO solely based on that I say again you are delusional.


Even Darren Woodson said it was probably about economics.
The same Darren Woodson who has been calling for TO to be booted since the day he put on a Cowboy's helmet? What, did he change his mind?
 

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khiladi;2703105 said:
Ah yes.. Which coaches hated him? Evidence? Maybe Garrett, definitely not Wade.Romo was sick of him? Evidence? Why did Jerry say he didn't even consult Romo as far as his decision to release Owens.. Why did Romo criticize Garrett and so did Williams, but never once criticized TO?Which players alluded to that? Every single player has come out and defended Owens, with only some 'anonymous' player saying otherwise. Where is your evidence?And actually, I'm quite logical in my thinking, considering the above. Jerry wants publicity, but he wants it focused on his new stadium... He doesn't want people talking about TO and Pac-man. The national media didn't even pay much attention to the fact that Dallas was introducing the most revolutionary stadium the world has seen last season. Plus, Jerry is marketing his stadium and doesn't even have a name for it. It surely isn't going to be Jerry's World.... You think marketing companies want Jerry to have players like Pac-man aboard while ESPN is talking about how he supposedly shot some guy at a strip-club? The fact is, that 9 million was a sunk cost no matter what, but that 9 million probably impacted a lot more in terms of marketing. Even Darren Woodson said it was probably about economics.


Even Wade is saying... damn Red why couldnt you get TO the ball.... we usually won that way.... ah shucks... wasnt his strength that little slant route.... and, and, and, that, that.... motion play whatchamacallit :laugh1:
 

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khiladi;2703105 said:
Ah yes.. Which coaches hated him? Evidence? Maybe Garrett, definitely not Wade.Romo was sick of him? Evidence? Why did Jerry say he didn't even consult Romo as far as his decision to release Owens.. Why did Romo criticize Garrett and so did Williams, but never once criticized TO?Which players alluded to that? Every single player has come out and defended Owens, with only some 'anonymous' player saying otherwise. Where is your evidence?And actually, I'm quite logical in my thinking, considering the above. Jerry wants publicity, but he wants it focused on his new stadium... He doesn't want people talking about TO and Pac-man. The national media didn't even pay much attention to the fact that Dallas was introducing the most revolutionary stadium the world has seen last season. Plus, Jerry is marketing his stadium and doesn't even have a name for it. It surely isn't going to be Jerry's World.... You think marketing companies want Jerry to have players like Pac-man aboard while ESPN is talking about how he supposedly shot some guy at a strip-club? The fact is, that 9 million was a sunk cost no matter what, but that 9 million probably impacted a lot more in terms of marketing. Even Darren Woodson said it was probably about economics.
Do you have video of Romo saying he's upset that TO's gone?
 

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Beast_from_East;2701621 said:
Translation..........Tony cant play football with #81 in the huddle yelling "Im open, Im open, Im open", "they cant cover me, they cant cover me", "how did you not see me on that last play, I was wide open man", "throw the ball to me on this next play, they cant cover me".......


See Jerry's point???

You think Michael Irvin wasn't doing the same, or Drew Pearson? Got news for you, every receiver worth a damn thinks they can't be covered and are open on every play.

Not only that, but we are back to the "Tony is too much of a wuss to take command of the huddle" escuse again.
 

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"Dan Reeves was quoted several times saying there were huge differences in opinions amongst almost everyone in VR. I highly doubt that translates to Jason Garrett didn't like Owens but everyone else in the entire organization loved and admired this consummate team player."No, Dan Reeves did not say 'huge differences' and Dan Reeves himself stated that they never talked personnel when he actually was there. Dan Reeves further never spoke with any of the players and his time there was with the oiffensive coaching staff. He was there two days and as he clearly stated, he was primarily talking game-film. He further went on to say that looking at the film it was quite clear the impact TO had on the game, not just the overall offense bu the running game as well. One more time: The idea that Dan Reeves had full access to the discussions going on in Valley Ranch about how TO needs to go is absurd. Like I said, Your making assertions not supported by evidence. Your taking whatever evidence you deem fits your opinion and exxaggerating it taking it out fo context. "Furthermore, TO himself has said he falls asleep in meetings and is late to them constantly. He has been a constant challenge to authority his entire career, inciting players to take sides against coaches and management. What coach isn't just dying to have a player like that in their locker? and evidence on definitely not Wade? Blowing smoke in a PC doesn't count."Emitt Smith also fell asleep in meeting. And you also have Calvin Hill saying TO is the hardest worker he has ever met and everybody that comes across TO say that he gives it all when he practices. Just because TO admitted to occasionally falling asleep in meetings doesn't negate the fact that he takes his job seriously. It is called exxagerating a statement of TO and applying it as if this is a habit he always falls into. His hard-work is testified to by all, not just Wade Phillips. Like I said, your trying to fit round objects in a square hole. Fom TO Homer Sam Hurd"Iknow it takes a lot of pressure off Tony Romo. A guy like Owens demands the ball and you want to get him the ball. Now Romo can look at all of us and see which one is open on any given play."And how is that castigating TO? Roy Williams has also relished the fact that he is not the number one, but he also stated that he wished TO was here and Dallas could get that 1-2 duo that would give defenses nightmares. Sam Hurd is obviously going to say that the loss of TO gives them an oppurtunity to step-up. Do you want him to say the ship[ is now sinking and I'm a WR that has to step-up but I can't? Did you not pay attention to the words used by Sam Hurd?'AND YOU WANT TO GET HIM THE BALL"... Hurd is saying TO is a type of receiver you want to get the ball to. Murther, Michael Irvin also demanded the ball. Steve Smith also demanded the ball."Again, Hurd said there were although he was quick to backpeddle off that statement. Ware said there was a definite need to refocus the locker, as did Ratliff IiRS."And Ware and Ratliff clearly stated that none of the problems were a result of TO. Both of them stated clearly that they wanted TO here and all of them expressed shock that he was gone. Further, Barber is a running back and if anything, the loss of TO, per the anti-TO crowd is that he takes away from the running game. WOuI'd think that Barber wouldn't be so vehement in his wanting TO to stay, considering it would mean he would allegedly touch the ball more. Hell, the guy even said he wanted to go to Jerry prior to TOs release to give his views on it."No one is going to come out and publicly rip on Owens - why is that so hard to understand? But I think it is interesting that no one on the offense who is not a WR has said a word (other than Barber, who was part of the TO posse)."SO pretty much your whoel argument is based upon assertions? Why wouldn't they rip Owens? Didn't Roy Williams come out and rip Garrett on several occasions? Didn't Romo even come out and rip Garrett after the season-ending loss? Even when questioned about it 2 months later, he never denied that he didn't rip Garrett. So all the evidence that counters your assertions that TO wasn't that bad of a guy is there, you say that it isn't worthy because nobody is going to 'rip him'. Wow..."The same Darren Woodson who has been calling for TO to be booted since the day he put on a Cowboy's helmet? What, did he change his mind?"Like I said,m come back to me when you get real proof not wild assertions that everybody wanted him gone, from Romo to Witten to Wade Phillips. Again, why did Jerry just say he didn't even consult Romo when it came to TO?
 

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Yakuza Rich;2701580 said:
That's all fine and dandy, but Romo needs to learn to not fumble the ball. Which I cannot imagine anybody blaming Owens for that, even though I find it ridiculous to blame Owens for Romo throwing into double or triple coverage.



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But when you have a WR *****ing about not getting the ball, it doesn't make it any easier. This is Romo's 4th season as a starting QB in the NFL. If he doesn't succeed somewhat this year (i.e. win a playoff game, be more consistent under pressure), then we can continue to question is ability as a QB.

It took Peyton Manning 6 seasons to win a playoff game and now he has won a super bowl and is considered one of the best QBs in the league.

I think Romo at least deserves a chance to prove himself.
 
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