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[Cbz40]

Jerry swaps picks with Pats to get McFadden?

4:04 PM Thu, Feb 28, 2008 | Permalink
Tim MacMahon


That's the bold prediction SI.com's Don Banks makes in his new mock draft. He has the Cowboys sending the 22nd and 28th pick to the Pats to snag the sliding Darren McFadden.

OK, relax. I know it's a long way out to be calling for a top-10 trade, but I can't leave McFadden on my board any longer and it's a good bet the Patriots would rather vacate the top 10 than use the No. 7 pick that they acquired from San Francisco in last year's draft. I think the Cowboys would be better off sitting tight with their two first-rounders (22 and 28) and taking the best receiver and running back available in those spots. But Jerry Jones is a risk taker, and McFadden has a chance to be this year's impact rookie. He and Marion Barber would make quite the tandem.​

Banks has the top four corners (Leodis McKelvin, Mike Jenkins, Aqib Talib and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie) off the board by the end of the teens. He also sees RBs Rashard Mendenhall and Jonathan Stewart long gone by the 20s.


If Jerry stayed put and Banks' mock up to that point was on the money, Cal WR DeSean Jackson and Arkansas RB Felix Jones would probably be the best first-round fits for the Cowboys.

 

[Big Dakota]

Peterson signed a five-year, $40.5 million deal with $17 million in guaranteed money as the 7th pick last year. DMac will get slightly more if he goes @ #7. MBIII will also command a contract in the 30-35 million and 12-14 million up front range. Add it together and you have about 30 million up front and 70-75 million is salary for your RB position. Personally, i don't buy it. As Jerry has said, it's cost prohibitive. Jerry will almost certainly have to chose between the two. The ONLY way, IMHO, Jerry drafts DMac is if he fell out of the top 10.

 

[The Panch]

Predictions, predictions, predictions.....

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Dear god will this crap ever end?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Peterson signed a five-year, $40.5 million deal with $17 million in guaranteed money as the 7th pick last year. DMac will get slightly more if he goes @ #7. MBIII will also command a contract in the 30-35 million and 12-14 million up front range. Add it together and you have about 30 million up front and 70-75 million is salary for your RB position. Personally, i don't buy it. As Jerry has said, it's cost prohibitive. Jerry will almost certainly have to chose between the two. The ONLY way, IMHO, Jerry drafts DMac is if he fell out of the top 10.

But if Barber only plays for the 1st and 3rd tender amount this year...

Seriously, this does make some sense. The Pats have a lot of people to pay and I'm sure would love to move down. And number seven isn't so high that the cost is *really* absurd.

 

[Big Dakota]

But if Barber only plays for the 1st and 3rd tender amount this year...

Seriously, this does make some sense. The Pats have a lot of people to pay and I'm sure would love to move down. And number seven isn't so high that the cost is *really* absurd.

I see your point, but don't you think, barring injury we'd still probably have to let MBIII walk as an UFA in 2009? If DMac came in and blew us away, fine, but it's risky because once you draft DMac in the top 10 and give him the cash, he's yours, better or worse.

 

[Teague31]

i am huge ANTI MCFADDEN guy but if this mock is right and the top 4 corners and top 3 RB's are all off the board by 22, I will not be happy with what we end up with. i could almost justify the move up if I knew the quality at 22 was that poor.

 

[Big Dakota]

Dear god will this crap ever end?

I hope Jerry hurries and signs MBIII for 5 years. But alas, it still won't end.

 

[TheCount]

Dear god will this crap ever end?

Yes... yes it will.

What's funny is I wasn't aware he was sliding. Mcfadden that is.

 

[KDWilliams85]

I think the majority of you fail to see the big picture here.

If you honestly think about it, it'll cost MORE to keep Barber than it would be to trade up for McFadden.

Jones tendered Barber $2.5 million for this year. That's guaranteed. On top of that, if you want to extend him, you have to pay him that salary PLUS bonus and new money in the extension. I'm not going to say that he's the best back since Emmitt Smith, but he's shown that he can thrive in a limited role. If he produces in a full year as starter, pay the man. You don't want to pay him over $35 million to be a part-time player.

On the other hand, McFadden can shoulder the load. He wouldn't be asked to come in and start. If he could show that he could take over the starting role and dominate a full game, then the move to get him wouldn't be so crazy now, would it?

I guess the bottom line is that you're hinging a lot of money on it. Barber could just as easily get paid and tank just as McFadden could. Difference being is that Barber is an established player while McFadden has his college reputation to hinge on.

Personally, between the two of them, I like McFadden better. Barber is getting praise to capitalize on short-yardage situations and medium-stints. McFadden can dart from anywhere to endzone. Barber cannot.

Hate on me and my McFadden-Lovin' if you must, but bottom line what Barber has done and what his limits are will determine whether we get McFadden or not. And you'd all be foolish to think that Jerry isn't blowing smoke by saying that he won't be here.

I think he will be here regardless.

All the people who advocate for "not selling the farm" to get McFadden are selling it to keep a player we don't necessarily need. Furthermore, compromising the efforts to keep the ones we DO need. Players such as Ware, Newman, and Hamlin. You can also consider Canty such a player.

Cutting Roy Williams isn't an option at this point. Bringing back Flozell is an option we can't afford.

Think long-term, people. Not for the moment. I'm not saying that McFadden is the answer but I'm also saying that Barber may very well not be it either.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I see your point, but don't you think, barring injury we'd still probably have to let MBIII walk as an UFA in 2009? If DMac came in and blew us away, fine, but it's risky because once you draft DMac in the top 10 and give him the cash, he's yours, better or worse.

Oh, personally I think Barber will be signed to a longer-term deal soon. Just saying that this scenario is at least plausible... Unlike the Miami trade so many of the mediots keep bleating about.

 

[Cbz40]

Dear god will this crap ever end?

After draft day......maybe

 

[Big Dakota]

Oh, personally I think Barber will be signed to a longer-term deal soon. Just saying that this scenario is at least plausible... Unlike the Miami trade so many of the mediots keep bleating about.

You're right, the Miami deal Schefter was reporting was crazy!

 

[Rampage]

yeah screw mcfadden just look at the success we have had when holding the #22 or #28 pick in the 1st round.


#22

1997...David LaFleur, TE, LSU
1974...Charley Young, RB, NC State
1966...Willie Townes, OT, Tulsa (2nd Round Pick)


#28

1978...Larry Bethea, DE, Michigan State

 

[CF74]

i am huge ANTI MCFADDEN guy but if this mock is right and the top 4 corners and top 3 RB's are all off the board by 22, I will not be happy with what we end up with. i could almost justify the move up if I knew the quality at 22 was that poor.

I'd rather trade up to #12-15 for Jenkins (CB.)

 

[TheCount]

yeah screw mcfadden just look at the success we have had when holding the #22 or #28 pick in the 1st round.


#22

1997...David LaFleur, TE, LSU
1974...Charley Young, RB, NC State
1966...Willie Townes, OT, Tulsa (2nd Round Pick)


#28

1978...Larry Bethea, DE, Michigan State

Way to work the numbers to your agenda.

We also picked up Anthony Spencer right imbetween those two slots at 26 last year.

Colts got Gonzales at 32 last year as well. Chiefs got Bowe at 23.

Let's not try pretending there isn't good talent on the board at that point okay.

 

[Rampage]

Way to work the numbers to your agenda.

We also picked up Anthony Spencer right imbetween those two slots at 26 last year.

Colts got Gonzales at 32 last year as well. Chiefs got Bowe at 23.

Let's not try pretending there isn't good talent on the board at that point okay.

i'm not. all i'm saying is history shows we draft garbage at #22 and #28

 

[TheCount]

i'm not. all i'm saying is history shows we draft garbage at #22 and #28

Well 4 players out of how many over the existence of the draft doesn't mean much of anything.

Historically we pick who we like at whatever slot we happen to be at. Some are busts, some are good, but the number of the slot has little to do with it.

 

[ms9221]

I have better shot at winning the lotto by the Jerry scouts said to 103.3 today they love Rashard Mendenhall (RB).

 

[big dog cowboy]

Dear god will this crap ever end?

Yes.

On draft day.