DMN Blog: Jonathan Stewart to visit Cowboys

[TEUFELI]

You're exactly right. I think people are confusing what Dallas is looking for in a complimentary back with a third down type back. Barber will play all three downs but he's not going to hold up to the pounding he takes for very long if someone else doesn't lessen the load. Heck, I would love to get either Stewart or Mendenhall if either dropped and have them take over the Julius Jones role in its entirety, including being the starter. The Giants loss seemed to show that Barber is Vinnie Johnson. Much better lighting it up coming off the bench.

Barber's 129 yds rushing, 4.8 yd avg, & 1 TD against NY was "not enough" and showed he is better coming off the bench?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Obvously, we need a RB, but I do have a problem with us using our FIRST pick in the draft to address a position that we already have a probowler at?! Was RB play what brought us down last yr? The DB talent is pretty good this yr, that means at 22 we can still prob get a good player, maybe at 28 too, and this position was definately more of a factor in our losses than RB play.

Look, he is a terrific back. To get him though, we would definately have to use our very first pick, and there is comparable talent there at 22 that fills a higher need. (db or wr) And those players wont be there probably at 28. While I think Stewart or Mendenhall would be phenomenal for us, given Barber's success, I think that we are better suited to look at two blazing fast really good backs in charles and johnson that will be available in the second.

We have a probowl WR and CB too.

 

[TEUFELI]

We have a probowl WR and CB too.

How many sets do we use 1 WR and 1 CB in the field at a given time?

 

[theebs]

Frankly, I'm kind of astounded everyone wants to go back to Jerry's philosophy of the late 90's of drafting complimentary players and projected backups with first day draft picks just to fill immediate roles.

I guess we need to find a new crop of Kendall Watkins and Sherman Williams.

my biggest fear also.

this "we just need a third down back and an average player" crap makes steam come out of my ears.

two first round picks should be viewed as franchise building blocks, not fill in part time guys.

 

[Woods]

my biggest fear also.

this "we just need a third down back and an average player" crap makes steam come out of my ears.

two first round picks should be viewed as franchise building blocks, not fill in part time guys.

AMEN.

 

[theogt]

AMEN.

I second (third? fourth?) this chain of thought. No first round pick is ever a "luxory" pick where you can afford to take "limited role" players.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

How many sets do we use 1 WR and 1 CB in the field at a given time?

How many touches would the second RB get? Its about 10-15 or so.

Also almost all of Barbers yards in that game came off a single drive to end the first quarter. After that his longest run was 5 yards and the rest were for 3 or less.

Only three backs in the NFL carried the ball 20 times a game last year and considering Barbers style id rather not have him join that list. Keep him at about 15 or so a game and have the other get the other 10 to 15 depending on the game.

Were going to split time with our backs even with Barber starting.

 

[theogt]

How many touches would the second RB get? Its about 10-15 or so.

Also almost all of Barbers yards in that game came off a single drive to end the first quarter. After that his longest run was 5 yards and the rest were for 3 or less.

Only three backs in the NFL carried the ball 20 times a game last year and considering Barbers style id rather not have him join that list. Keep him at about 15 or so a game and have the other get the other 10 to 15 depending on the game.

Were going to split time with our backs even with Barber starting.

Did you miss the part where he said, "Obviously we need a RB?"

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Did you miss the part where he said, "Obviously we need a RB?"

shoo fly.

 

[Kilyin]

Barber's 129 yds rushing, 4.8 yd avg, & 1 TD against NY was "not enough" and showed he is better coming off the bench?

Kind of misleading. Why don't you post his first half stats vs. second half stats in that game. Going by memory alone, I'm willing to bet 90% of those stats were in the first half.

Someone wore down in that game. It was either Barber, or the offensive line, or both.

 

[theogt]

shoo fly.

Translation: "Oops, no I missed that part, which made my attempt to change the subject look kind of silly."

 

[TEUFELI]

Did you miss the part where he said, "Obviously we need a RB?"

He seems to just "want this guy"...and in the process of his ranting, he missed most of what I wrote. Alot of this site is about guys falling in love with the guys they want, and rabidly arguing with people who see the best option as being something else.

Doesnt matter, we prob arent taking a rb at 22, this is why Jerry made mention to galloway of the rb depth in this yrs draft.

 

[TEUFELI]

Kind of misleading. Why don't you post his first half stats vs. second half stats in that game. Going by memory alone, I'm willing to bet 90% of those stats were in the first half.

Someone wore down in that game. It was either Barber, or the offensive line, or both.

If giving a game stats line is "misleading" then I apologize. Maybe we should start keeping track of 3 minute 12 second stat lines???

Look, I agree, Barber should not carry the load on his own. I am for a rb...just not at 22, but definately in the first 3 rds.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Translation: "Oops, no I missed that part, which made my attempt to change the subject look kind of silly."

Nice troll attempt chachi.

He said what formations use only one WR/CB implying that you needed two WR/CB. Thats why I made those comments to indicate that a second RB is just as important as a second CB etc. You know the whole splitting carries fairly equitably thing.

But hey it looks like it was a mistake to take you off ignore so back you go. Take your childish antics elsewhere.

 

[theogt]

Nice troll attempt chachi.

He said what formations use only one WR/CB implying that you needed two WR/CB. Thats why I made those comments to indicate that a second RB is just as important as a second CB etc. You know the whole splitting carries fairly equitably thing.

But hey it looks like it was a mistake to take you off ignore so back you go. Take your childish antics elsewhere.

You honestly think a 2nd running back is as important as a 2nd corner or 2nd wide receiver? Wow.

 

[TEUFELI]

wow is right

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He seems to just "want this guy"...and in the process of his ranting, he missed most of what I wrote. Alot of this site is about guys falling in love with the guys they want, and rabidly arguing with people who see the best option as being something else.

Doesnt matter, we prob arent taking a rb at 22, this is why Jerry made mention to galloway of the rb depth in this yrs draft.

i actually dont mind the idea of Jenkins or others at 22. I just also think that Stweart would be good value there. Hes not a pet cat. i really try not to be like that.

But really at 22 Im not really high on any of the WR. I do like Thomas or Sweed at 28 but even then im kinda iffy. As for a CB, if we get Jones then more than likely the rookie is only going to get playing time when Henry gets hurt.

 

[theogt]

As for a CB, if we get Jones then more than likely the rookie is only going to get playing time when Henry gets hurt.

In other words, he's going to get a lot of playing time.

 

[newlander]

I don't think we go with a rb at #22. No proof, just don't think so. My thinking is this: Draft best availabele CB at #22. Talib, Cason whomever is highest rated and still available on the board. Then trade #28 and someone like Carp to the Lions for Roy Williams if possible. Then trade our 2nd and 4th to move up into position for the best available running back EARLY in the 2nd round: I believe Johnson could still be there. Then you'd have Pacman, Talib or Cason, Roy W., and possibly Johnson for your headliners this offseason. BTW-rounds 3,5,6, and 7 could be used for depth at WR, D.Line, etc...........Yeah, I know it won't happen, but Jerry will be busy you just know that.............which as someone already mentioned is scary. :starspin

 

[superpunk]

Before this gets out of hand....


You guy's wanna go cheese?