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Moose Johnston blasted the Cowboys when they signed Tank Johnson, so I was a little surprised with his take on the Pacman Jones trade.

"In this era of salary cap management, I like the way that they structured his contract," Moose said yesterday at the Cowboys Golf Club. "Now you've just got to keep your fingers crossed that he's learned from what he's done in the past and the support group within the Dallas Cowboys does its job. But it's a tough decision. It's a roll of the dice. You get tempted by talent."

Moose cited character concerns as the problem with signing Tank, so what's the difference with the Pacman deal? Real simple: Moose didn't think adding Tank to the defensive line mix got the Cowboys much closer to a Super Bowl. He sees Pacman as a guy who could be a major impact player.

"It's much more tempting than the [Tank Johnson signing], but it's more of a risk, too," Moose said. "I think he has the potential to be a complete corner in the NFL, a Pro Bowl-type cornerback, which obviously allows your defense to be much more aggressive. I think he adds a dimension in the return game that Dallas really needs to establish field position and give that high-powered offense a short field."

Maybe Moose was just in a Cowboys-friendly mood yesterday. After all, he was riding around on the team's course in a golf cart with his name stenciled on the side.

But his message made sense. If you're going to take a major PR hit and rely on a guy with an ugly off-field track record, make sure the potential payoff is big. And it is with Pacman.


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Moose thinks today's Cowboys can learn from yesterday's

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You've heard a lot over the last couple months about the Cowboys not "babysitting" Pacman Jones, if and when the league sees fit to reinstate him.

At one time, ex-Cowboy Daryl Johnston wishes he had. Yesterday, in a talk with myself and Timmy Tabloid, Moose admitted that he and his teammates made a mistake in ignoring the legal misgivings of Michael Irvin.

"With Michael Irvin, I think we all tend to think we didn't step in soon enough," Johnston said, referencing incidents in the mid- to late-1990s. "We waited until it impacted all of us as a team. We should have seen the potential for that type of behavior to impact the team in a negative way before it became that. "

Johnston added that some of the free-agent losses, Kevin Gogan was one he pointed out specifically, in that period weakened what had been a very strong locker room that, in the early-1990s, may have staged some sort of intervention with Irvin or other players running afoul of the law. The good news is, with Pacman's return to the league probably coming at some point in the next few months, Moose is hearing that the Cowboys' locker room is very strong and ready to deal with such a problem child.

"Having talked to several people in the Dallas Cowboys organization, they said it's a very strong locker room, with a DeMarcus Ware, with Bradie James, the guys that are in that locker room hold everybody accountable," Johnston said. "And that's a critical element. You can have the best intentions from ownership to coaching staff. But if your players aren't policed in the locker room, then you have potential for something bad to happen."


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10:37 AM Thu, May 15, 2008 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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Moose Johnston blasted the Cowboys when they signed Tank Johnson, so I was a little surprised with his take on the Pacman Jones trade.

"In this era of salary cap management, I like the way that they structured his contract," Moose said yesterday at the Cowboys Golf Club. "Now you've just got to keep your fingers crossed that he's learned from what he's done in the past and the support group within the Dallas Cowboys does its job. But it's a tough decision. It's a roll of the dice. You get tempted by talent."

Moose cited character concerns as the problem with signing Tank, so what's the difference with the Pacman deal? Real simple: Moose didn't think adding Tank to the defensive line mix got the Cowboys much closer to a Super Bowl. He sees Pacman as a guy who could be a major impact player.

"It's much more tempting than the [Tank Johnson signing], but it's more of a risk, too," Moose said. "I think he has the potential to be a complete corner in the NFL, a Pro Bowl-type cornerback, which obviously allows your defense to be much more aggressive. I think he adds a dimension in the return game that Dallas really needs to establish field position and give that high-powered offense a short field."

Maybe Moose was just in a Cowboys-friendly mood yesterday. After all, he was riding around on the team's course in a golf cart with his name stenciled on the side.

But his message made sense. If you're going to take a major PR hit and rely on a guy with an ugly off-field track record, make sure the potential payoff is big. And it is with Pacman.


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9:32 AM Thu, May 15, 2008 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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You've heard a lot over the last couple months about the Cowboys not "babysitting" Pacman Jones, if and when the league sees fit to reinstate him.

At one time, ex-Cowboy Daryl Johnston wishes he had. Yesterday, in a talk with myself and Timmy Tabloid, Moose admitted that he and his teammates made a mistake in ignoring the legal misgivings of Michael Irvin.

"With Michael Irvin, I think we all tend to think we didn't step in soon enough," Johnston said, referencing incidents in the mid- to late-1990s. "We waited until it impacted all of us as a team. We should have seen the potential for that type of behavior to impact the team in a negative way before it became that. "

Johnston added that some of the free-agent losses, Kevin Gogan was one he pointed out specifically, in that period weakened what had been a very strong locker room that, in the early-1990s, may have staged some sort of intervention with Irvin or other players running afoul of the law. The good news is, with Pacman's return to the league probably coming at some point in the next few months, Moose is hearing that the Cowboys' locker room is very strong and ready to deal with such a problem child.

"Having talked to several people in the Dallas Cowboys organization, they said it's a very strong locker room, with a DeMarcus Ware, with Bradie James, the guys that are in that locker room hold everybody accountable," Johnston said. "And that's a critical element. You can have the best intentions from ownership to coaching staff. But if your players aren't policed in the locker room, then you have potential for something bad to happen."


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Bradie catches a lot of flack, but I am beginning to appreciate him more and more. He is solid, not great but we can count on him week in week out to give us a solid outing. Also, DeMarcus... any question this guy will be one of the best ever? He does everything right, on and off the field.

I really hope Mr. Jones gets reinstated, I think the Cowboys can help him and he can help the Cowboys.
 

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Chris Henry says Pacman will be fine

Free agent wide receiver Chris Henry, who was recently released by the Cincinnati Bengals, says he talks often with good buddy and fellow troubled player Pacman Jones.

They were teammates at West Virgnia and both share the bond of NFL suspensions and long rap sheets. Henry (top left), in an interview with Sirius NFL Radio, said he and Pacman are like brothers. The Cowboys probably love hearing that.

Henry said Pacman's troubles are behind him now. See, there's no need to worry Cowboys fans.


``We were young and got caught up in making some mistakes and, you know, people mature and learn from their mistakes,'' Henry said. ''I think we're both going to be fine.''



Henry said the Cowboys were one of the teams he would like to play for but said they have not contacted him. Dallas does not have any interest in signing Henry.

- RH

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WoodysGirl;2083226 said:
At one time, ex-Cowboy Daryl Johnston wishes he had. Yesterday, in a talk with myself and Timmy Tabloid, Moose admitted that he and his teammates made a mistake in ignoring the legal misgivings of Michael Irvin.

"With Michael Irvin, I think we all tend to think we didn't step in soon enough," Johnston said, referencing incidents in the mid- to late-1990s. "We waited until it impacted all of us as a team. We should have seen the potential for that type of behavior to impact the team in a negative way before it became that. "

Johnston added that some of the free-agent losses, Kevin Gogan was one he pointed out specifically, in that period weakened what had been a very strong locker room that, in the early-1990s, may have staged some sort of intervention with Irvin or other players running afoul of the law. The good news is, with Pacman's return to the league probably coming at some point in the next few months, Moose is hearing that the Cowboys' locker room is very strong and ready to deal with such a problem child.

Gogan was one of my favorite players back then, particularly because of his protection of the team. He became a hero when he stood over Aikman looking for someone to hit after Troy had gotten clobbered. That was what we need now, guys who will take up for their teammates and keep things straight in the locker room as well. Randy White was that kind of guy and before him it was Lee Roy Jordan.

I'm glad to hear that some of our current guys are like that as well.
 

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Chris Henry says Pacman will be fine

Free agent wide receiver Chris Henry, who was recently released by the Cincinnati Bengals, says he talks often with good buddy and fellow troubled player Pacman Jones.

They were teammates at West Virgnia and both share the bond of NFL suspensions and long rap sheets. Henry (top left), in an interview with Sirius NFL Radio, said he and Pacman are like brothers. The Cowboys probably love hearing that.

Henry said Pacman's troubles are behind him now. See, there's no need to worry Cowboys fans.


``We were young and got caught up in making some mistakes and, you know, people mature and learn from their mistakes,'' Henry said. ''I think we're both going to be fine.''



Henry said the Cowboys were one of the teams he would like to play for but said they have not contacted him. Dallas does not have any interest in signing Henry.

- RH

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Oh wow, now theres a great endorsement
 

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Chris Henry says Pacman will be fined

Free agent wide receiver Chris Henry, who was recently released by the Cincinnati Bengals, says he talks often with good buddy and fellow troubled player Pacman Jones.

They were teammates at West Virgnia and both share the bond of NFL suspensions and long rap sheets. Henry (top left), in an interview with Sirius NFL Radio, said he and Pacman are like brothers. The Cowboys probably love hearing that.

Henry said Pacman's troubles are behind him now. See, there's no need to worry Cowboys fans.


``We were young and got caught up in making some mistakes and, you know, people mature and learn from their mistakes,but not us'' Henry said. ''I think we're both going to be fined for this summers activities, you know its a long time with loadsa dollars and nothing to do.''



Henry said the Cowboys were one of the teams he would like to play for but said they have not contacted him. Dallas does not have any interest in signing Henry, but if he shoots up a strip joint after making it rain Jerry might just get the cheque book out.

- RH

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FIXED IT
 

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Gogan has one of my favorites also. The time he tried to fix Aikman's dislocated finger was funny.

Anyone remember him and Brian Cox getting into it at the Pro Bowl? That was some real stuff...
 

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"Having talked to several people in the Dallas Cowboys organization, they said it's a very strong locker room, with a DeMarcus Ware, with Bradie James, the guys that are in that locker room hold everybody accountable,"

I wouldn't want to cross either of those 2, they're some big men, and Bradie is a mean SOB when he wants to be
 

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WoodysGirl;2083238 said:
Chris Henry says Pacman will be fine

Free agent wide receiver Chris Henry, who was recently released by the Cincinnati Bengals, says he talks often with good buddy and fellow troubled player Pacman Jones.

They were teammates at West Virgnia and both share the bond of NFL suspensions and long rap sheets. Henry (top left), in an interview with Sirius NFL Radio, said he and Pacman are like brothers. The Cowboys probably love hearing that.

Henry said Pacman's troubles are behind him now. See, there's no need to worry Cowboys fans.


``We were young and got caught up in making some mistakes and, you know, people mature and learn from their mistakes,'' Henry said. ''I think we're both going to be fine.''



Henry said the Cowboys were one of the teams he would like to play for but said they have not contacted him. Dallas does not have any interest in signing Henry.

- RH

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I certainly understand that Chris Henry's past destroys any credibility he would have otherwise had, but I will say its a step in the right direction when someone acknowledges they made a mistake. His statement actually suggests he's taking responsibility because he never suggests it was because of this or that person or situation, rather his own poor judgment. Thats a first step.
 
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