DMN Blog: Prime Time's prediction for Roy Williams: 'All hell is gonna break loose'

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I think this is what the team needs. We don't need anymore pats on the back. We need doubters. I actually agree with Deion for the most part, but I would love to see Roy and Tony prove Deion and myself wrong.



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Yakuza Rich;2727985 said:
I think this is what the team needs. We don't need anymore pats on the back. We need doubters. I actually agree with Deion for the most part, but I would love to see Roy and Tony prove Deion and myself wrong.



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Doomsday101;2727816 said:
I disagree with Deion, I think Roy will be a very good WR playing on a very good team with a very good QB something Roy has not seen since he has been in the NFL.

You know, of course, that Williams' QB from Detroit is now on the Cowboys team?

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theebs;2727854 said:
Triple amen.

I was telling doctor 32 this morning, Everytime he says something negative I feel better that the organization is doing something right. He is a terrible analyst and no one ever calls him out on how bad he is at his job.

This organization just needs to lock him out.


Didn't CBS fire him as an analyst?

Deion is an enormous tool.

As an aside, has anyone caught the MLB Network? It's already superior to the NFLN. They broadcast everything in HD. Which is a real big issue for me on NFLN. They have HD capabilities, but for some reason all of their highlights are in standard def. They also have far better analysts. Leiter, Reynolds >> any of those former players on NLFN.
 

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zekecee;2727814 said:
I hope Deion is wrong about Roy...but I don't think so. We'll see.
So far in his career, Roy Williams has proven nothing more than he can be a "good enough" #2 (maaaybe #1) for a crappy Detriot team.

It is a case of wait and see. Potential is there, no doubt...let's see if he lives up to it.
 

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Poor little Deion, his boy TO is out of town and now all he can do is ***** and come up with ridiculous statements about how the team will fail now. I think it will actually have a positive effect on the team with so many doubters.
 

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MrMom;2728013 said:
Didn't CBS fire him as an analyst?

Deion is an enormous tool.

As an aside, has anyone caught the MLB Network? It's already superior to the NFLN. They broadcast everything in HD. Which is a real big issue for me on NFLN. They have HD capabilities, but for some reason all of their highlights are in standard def. They also have far better analysts. Leiter, Reynolds >> any of those former players on NLFN.

The mlb network is fabulous.

Their live look in's are great and the studio and the graphics are far superior to the nfl network. Not to mention the hosts and analysts. Nfl network has really dropped the ball imo, with the people they have on air.
 

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Poor little Deion, his boy TO is out of town and now all he can do is ***** and come up with ridiculous statements about how the team will fail now. I think it will actually have a positive effect on the team with so many doubters.
Exactly. Now, the motivating comments are, "You're no better than 8-8" or "Without Owens, you don't stand a chance" or etc., etc. That's the exact kind of anti-team attitude which played a part in hampering last season's team. With the departure of the iPlayer, the rest of the roster may feel that much more energized in putting more effort into dispelling the notion that it takes one special player to have a successful season.
 

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OK, I'm really tired of people saying we can't replace TO's production.

I took last year's receiving stats, and averaged catches, yards, and TDs per game for each player based on how many games played, not how many games either started or featured (for example, Tashard Choice only registered stats in 7 games, but his stats were divided by the 16 games he played in, so their stats are the bare minimum). Last year, with TO (and Tony Curtis, who is no longer with the team), we averaged 22 catches, 266 yards, and 1.93 passing TDs per game. I then increased each player's production by a percentage to see what it would take to replace such vaunted production.

15% increase for Witten, Barber, Crayton, and Deon Anderson
125% increase for Roy Williams and Felix Jones
20% increase for Choice
80% increase for Bennett and Austin
40% increase for Stanback

Those numbers came out to 23.9 catches, 280 yds, and 1.94 tds per game.

The 125% increase for Roy Williams gives him 4.28 catches, 44.55 yds, and .23 tds per game, which translates to 68.4 catches, 712.8 yards, 3.6 tds for the season. And Felix Jones stats translates to 12 catches, 60 yds, and 0 tds for the season. So really, it isn't hard at all to replace TO's production. And I'm pretty certain that Witten isn't going to just have 4.6 tds this year, or that Roy isn't going to score 3.6 tds this year, or that Felix won't score on a HB screen.
 

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jswalker1981;2728063 said:
OK, I'm really tired of people saying we can't replace TO's production.

I took last year's receiving stats, and averaged catches, yards, and TDs per game for each player based on how many games played, not how many games either started or featured (for example, Tashard Choice only registered stats in 7 games, but his stats were divided by the 16 games he played in, so their stats are the bare minimum). Last year, with TO (and Tony Curtis, who is no longer with the team), we averaged 22 catches, 266 yards, and 1.93 passing TDs per game. I then increased each player's production by a percentage to see what it would take to replace such vaunted production.

15% increase for Witten, Barber, Crayton, and Deon Anderson
125% increase for Roy Williams and Felix Jones
20% increase for Choice
80% increase for Bennett and Austin
40% increase for Stanback

Those numbers came out to 23.9 catches, 280 yds, and 1.94 tds per game.

The 125% increase for Roy Williams gives him 4.28 catches, 44.55 yds, and .23 tds per game, which translates to 68.4 catches, 712.8 yards, 3.6 tds for the season. And Felix Jones stats translates to 12 catches, 60 yds, and 0 tds for the season. So really, it isn't hard at all to replace TO's production. And I'm pretty certain that Witten isn't going to just have 4.6 tds this year, or that Roy isn't going to score 3.6 tds this year, or that Felix won't score on a HB screen.

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jswalker1981;2728063 said:
OK, I'm really tired of people saying we can't replace TO's production.

I took last year's receiving stats, and averaged catches, yards, and TDs per game for each player based on how many games played, not how many games either started or featured (for example, Tashard Choice only registered stats in 7 games, but his stats were divided by the 16 games he played in, so their stats are the bare minimum). Last year, with TO (and Tony Curtis, who is no longer with the team), we averaged 22 catches, 266 yards, and 1.93 passing TDs per game. I then increased each player's production by a percentage to see what it would take to replace such vaunted production.

15% increase for Witten, Barber, Crayton, and Deon Anderson
125% increase for Roy Williams and Felix Jones
20% increase for Choice
80% increase for Bennett and Austin
40% increase for Stanback

Those numbers came out to 23.9 catches, 280 yds, and 1.94 tds per game.

The 125% increase for Roy Williams gives him 4.28 catches, 44.55 yds, and .23 tds per game, which translates to 68.4 catches, 712.8 yards, 3.6 tds for the season. And Felix Jones stats translates to 12 catches, 60 yds, and 0 tds for the season. So really, it isn't hard at all to replace TO's production. And I'm pretty certain that Witten isn't going to just have 4.6 tds this year, or that Roy isn't going to score 3.6 tds this year, or that Felix won't score on a HB screen.

I would hope Williams is able to "replace" Owens' numbers from last year.

He needs to be much much better than that actually.
 

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This just isn't helping matters. IMO Roy does not have the personality type to be able to deal with this particular aspect of playing on America's Team with the media constantly throwing at one playing on this team.

He needs to be thick as nails, but I just don't believe he's anywhere near that. IMO His mentality is weak. It's that of a loser. Dallas is probably the last place he ever should have went if you want to get right down to it.

To add, virtually every Cowboy hero of past has called this guy out. They have stood where he needs to stand but apparently none seemingly think he will ever be able to stand there with them. Not good. Not good at all. They know what it takes- they've been down this block.

For Roy Williams, it's going to take a miracle, jmo.
 

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Cowboys2008;2728199 said:
This just isn't helping matters. IMO Roy does not have the personality type to be able to deal with this particular aspect of playing on America's Team with the media constantly throwing at one playing on this team.

He needs to be thick as nails, but I just don't believe he's anywhere near that. IMO His mentality is weak. It's that of a loser. Dallas is probably the last place he ever should have went if you want to get right down to it.

To add, virtually every Cowboy hero of past has called this guy out. They have stood where he needs to stand but apparently none seemingly think he will ever be able to stand there with them. Not good. Not good at all. They know what it takes- they've been down this block.

For Roy Williams, it's going to take a miracle, jmo.
what's your reasoning for you thinking he's mentally weak? I'll give you mine why I think he isn't and that's cause he hasn't seeked out interviews to respond to Troy or whoever else like a certain new bills wr.
 

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It's getting pretty annoying with all the Roy Williams bashing..he's a legit reciever!!! He had a bad few months with us in mid-season!!! so what! Give the guy the benefit of the doubt with a TC under his belt! Then make your assessment!
 

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Cowboys2008;2728199 said:
This just isn't helping matters. IMO Roy does not have the personality type to be able to deal with this particular aspect of playing on America's Team with the media constantly throwing at one playing on this team.

He needs to be thick as nails, but I just don't believe he's anywhere near that. IMO His mentality is weak. It's that of a loser. Dallas is probably the last place he ever should have went if you want to get right down to it.

To add, virtually every Cowboy hero of past has called this guy out. They have stood where he needs to stand but apparently none seemingly think he will ever be able to stand there with them. Not good. Not good at all. They know what it takes- they've been down this block.

For Roy Williams, it's going to take a miracle, jmo.

Wow I can think of no man more undeserving of being called a loser. He is one of the most mentally toughest players we have on the team. I knew I would like when I first heard him utter the words "I am a coachable wide receiver and I do what I am coached to do" to the questions about the team. They would poke and prod at him and he would continue to give the same response.

See there it is perfectly ok to be harsh on your team but comments like the ones you made make me wonder why you even bother to come here. Saying that one of our most upstanding players has the mentality of a loser? Hes done absolutely nothing to warrant that kind of criticism.

I for one am glad to have him on the team and am very excited to see what he can do this year.

*Edit* I would like to know though what reason do you have for saying hes not mentally tough or he has the mentality of a loser. I gotta hear this.
 

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Prime Time's prediction for Roy Williams: 'All hell is gonna break loose'

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Deion Sanders, who has been blasting Roy Williams since the day the blockbuster deal went down with Detroit, didn't let up on the coachable WR during an interview with Fox 4.

After mentioning how much T.O. was hurt by his release, Prime Time tore into the Cowboys' new No. 1 receiver again.

"Roy would have never been questioned really if T.O. had still been here," said Deion, who wondered why Jerry Jones didn't trade for proven commodities Chad Johnson or T.J. Houshmandzadeh. "Now that T.O. is gone - 'Oh, Roy, what have you done?!' The fans are going to see it, and I tell you what, by week 7 or 8, all hell is gonna break loose or all these questions are gonna be answered. I know what's gonna happen: All hell is gonna break loose."

Prime Time also criticized Tony Romo as the Cowboys season swirled down the drain and immediately afterward, but he gave the franchise quarterback a back-handed compliment in this interview.

"Tony has the utensils to be one of the best quarterbacks in the game," Deion said. "I don't know if he has the receivers to be the best quarterback in the game."


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So true. Hopefully Roy is the real deal. So far he has looked no better than Hurd. I'm pulling for the guy for the team, but something smell rotten becasue you'd expect better production from a guy we gave up the house for. Regardless if he wasn't at traning camp or not.

If he somehow flops this year I can't wait to see the reaction on this board. And please keep Deion doing something in football. Please keep him from doing this.

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Things didnt go the way Deion wanted them to go with his buddy TO and Dallas so now he is blasting RW. Give it a rest Deion, know one really cares what you think. At least I dont anyway.
 
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