DMN Blog: Pro Personnel Department Loses Gaine

[Echo9]

or maybe they just like working with parcells. maybe they like miami. either way i wish 'em well. but GM isn't the only goal yet since jones is the 'defacto gm' it becomes a target of critisizm.

is miami's GM spot open anytime soon? after all, it's the sole reasons talent scouts seem to work for an NFL franchise - to be GM ASAP.

Not really, Since Ireland was just named GM.

 

[iceberg]

Not really, Since Ireland was just named GM.

then if career advancement is a priority and GM is the position in question since jones won't relinquish it, why would anyone go to a team who just hired a GM?

it's the 'hate jones' logic to me.

 

[khiladi]

What I can't understand is why these guys that spent 4 mediocre seasons w/ BP would want to join him again. Wade took the same talent and went 13-3 ( almost 11-5) which is a marked improvement in my book. What do they think they are going to accomplish in Miami???...

Uh, maybe it is Miami... Why do you think Parcells chose Miami over other teams? It is a different life-style down there. Parcells is going to enjoy sailing on his yacht in the off-season. Maybe even during the season...

Dallas is no Miami....

 

[iceberg]

Uh, maybe it is Miami... Why do you think Parcells chose Miami over other teams? It is a different life-style down there. Parcells is going to enjoy sailing on his yacht in the off-season. Maybe even during the season...

Dallas is no Miami....

cause new york told him to go (insert choice phrase here) himself?

 

[Echo9]

then if career advancement is a priority and GM is the position in question since jones won't relinquish it, why would anyone go to a team who just hired a GM?

it's the 'hate jones' logic to me.

Oh. OK.

I'm just lookin at it like this way. Gaines was with BP when they were with the Jets. He wants to go back with BP. Pretty straightforward to me.

Ireland? we'll he got the GM position. Also pretty straightforward.

Sparano? He's due for a HC job, so there ya go.

 

[iceberg]

Oh. OK.

I'm just lookin at it like this way. Gaines was with BP when they were with the Jets. He wants to go back with BP. Pretty straightforward to me.

Ireland? we'll he got the GM position. Also pretty straightforward.

Sparano? He's due for a HC job, so there ya go.

none of which do i have a problem with - it's just funny to watch people panic left and right. then jones is a terrible GM for letting this happen. but jones wasn't a good GM for putting it together. even though we can't afford to lose it...

makes me go 'hmmmmmm'

 

[Echo9]

none of which do i have a problem with - it's just funny to watch people panic left and right. then jones is a terrible GM for letting this happen. but jones wasn't a good GM for putting it together. even though we can't afford to lose it...

makes me go 'hmmmmmm'

:laugh2: yeah I think we're pretty much in agreement here.

If I actually took the time to reply to some of the ridiculousness on this board, I'd have a higher post count than CrazyCowboy.

 

[iceberg]

:laugh2: yeah I think we're pretty much in agreement here.

If I actually took the time to reply to some of the ridiculousness on this board, I'd have a higher post count than CrazyCowboy.

yea, but if you go by words in a post, you should be on par with him.

 

[Concord]

Personally if the guy doesn't want to be here screw him.

My problem is the farce of the NFL Blocking him from going.

Oh so all he has to do is resign and then ONLY wait seven days until he can join the Dolphins?

If it was seven months...OK.

But Seven Days?

If it was that easy why go through all the BS crap of...Oh we're going to block him?

What a crock.

 

[Echo9]

yea, but if you go by words in a post, you should be on par with him.

 

[Nors]

then if career advancement is a priority and GM is the position in question since jones won't relinquish it, why would anyone go to a team who just hired a GM?

it's the 'hate jones' logic to me.

He was an assistant scout to Ireland who was Head of scouting below JJ.

Both were promoted to GM and probably head of scouting in MIAMI and their star is brighter NFL wide for these moves. Throw in more money and obviously a comfort factor with Parcells and these moves are not so perplexing.

jmo

 

[dogberry]

This has been informative.

Before Ireland left, I assumed the general manager of an NFL team was in charge of seeing that the parking lots were striped, that the toilets worked, that there were enough habaneros in the cheese sauce, and that the team put enough MDs on the sideline during the game.

Now the GM looks like the person in charge of finding players and the people who manage and the support the players.

I was worried that Jeff was going to be picking out suite interior decoration schemes in Miami's stadium.

 

[iceberg]

He was an assistant scout to Ireland who was Head of scouting below JJ.

Both were promoted to GM and probably head of scouting in MIAMI and their star is brighter NFL wide for these moves. Throw in more money and obviously a comfort factor with Parcells and these moves are not so perplexing.

jmo

no one said they were perplexing. just that GM was not an end-all-be-all of jobs in the nfl.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

so GM is the only goal? then why head off to miami then, ireland is the GM i would hope for quite some time.

it seems some want to think GM is the only aspiration of anyone in the NFL and like that is the only role they can have worth anything here in dallas.

Is that all Jones is in Dallas? (gm) Some times you like to argue just for the sake of argument. Defend Jones to the end of the earth even when there is nothing to defend.

Where is the room for advancement in Dallas compared to Miami? Ya think Ireland could end up with Parcells title some day? Or Gaines end up with Irelands title? Or is the hate blinding you that bad? It's getting stupid really.

 

[theogt]

Where is the room for advancement in Dallas compared to Miami? Ya think Ireland could end up with Parcells title some day? Or is the hate blinding you that bad? It's getting stupid really.

Why would he want to end up with Parcells' title? Doesn't that mean he doesn't get to make any decisions?

 

[Dave_in-NC]

then if career advancement is a priority and GM is the position in question since jones won't relinquish it, why would anyone go to a team who just hired a GM?

it's the 'hate jones' logic to me.

And you would be wrong. What advancement opportunities are there in Dallas? Please explain. You have Jerry as owner GM and what does Steven do? Not everything is about hate. Get a grip.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Why would he want to end up with Parcells' title? Doesn't that mean he doesn't get to make any decisions?

LOL according to some. Then there are those who are a tad smarter.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

He was an assistant scout to Ireland who was Head of scouting below JJ.

Both were promoted to GM and probably head of scouting in MIAMI and their star is brighter NFL wide for these moves. Throw in more money and obviously a comfort factor with Parcells and these moves are not so perplexing.

jmo

Sure they are, because some where it's because some hate Jones.

 

[iceberg]

Is that all Jones is in Dallas? (gm) Some times you like to argue just for the sake of argument. Defend Jones to the end of the earth even when there is nothing to defend.

Where is the room for advancement in Dallas compared to Miami? Ya think Ireland could end up with Parcells title some day? Or Gaines end up with Irelands title? Or is the hate blinding you that bad? It's getting stupid really.

maybe i do. but my point isn't to defend jones in as much as try to understand that if they leave here because they can't be GM it's pretty silly to take a job where the GM was just hired.

my main point is he could still have gotten good experience here. *I HAVE NO PROBLEM* with him leaving!!! but sometimes it also seems you take a dig at jones just to take a dig.

He can't be GM here so he must go!

well he can't be GM where he's going either anytime soon so i don't get it.

that's all.

 

[iceberg]

And you would be wrong. What advancement opportunities are there in Dallas? Please explain. You have Jerry as owner GM and what does Steven do? Not everything is about hate. Get a grip.

then i wonder why anyone bothers to work for the cowboys at all. : )

grip gotten. nice jab, btw. : )