DMN Blog: Should Cowboys cut ties with Greg Ellis?

[NextGenBoys]

If we don't go after one in the draft, I wouldn't mind a player like Pierre Woods (if they let him get away) to replace Ellis and compete with Spencer.

I would love to get Pierre Woods. Like you said I dont know if I want him starting as, but he would be a good guy to bring in to spell Spencer/Ware.

I saw alot of him while he was at Michigan. He has put on some weight since back then, which he was a little lanky for a LB, but the guy is a good all around linebacker. Isnt a pass rusher like Ware or Spencer, just a good solid all around linebacker. Not to mention he can play special teams too.

I'm all for this move.

 

[Alexander]

Ellis (eight sacks last season) would count $6.25 million against the salary cap next season -- a lot for a role player, as he pointed out -- but the Cowboys might not be able to afford to cut him from a football perspective.

Caving to Ellis' salary demands, I mean, making a "commitment" a few years ago really paid off well for us, eh?

 

[Stash]

Anyone know what the savings would be to cut him?

 

[fanfromvirginia]

Cut him tonight.

 

[xWraithx]

Cut Ellis and throw a max contract at Marcellus Wiley

 

[Woods]

Anyone know what the savings would be to cut him?

I thought someone mentioned about $4mm.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

I would try to trade him before I cut him. There's still teams out there that need a pass rusher, and he can finally be happy and start next year. I think we need to see Spencer grow in a full time role, while getting a player via draft or FA to come and spell Spencer/Ware.

 

[rangers71]

I am so freaking tired of this guy. Please cut this piece of trash.

 

[DallasDomination]

The only thing Gregg brings to the table is leadership on the field. But He isnt good enough to inspire other player or make them better.

He's past his prime, he should be let go. Give Spencer all the reps and see what he does, because that young man has alot to prove and he needs to do something fast.

 

[Stash]

I thought someone mentioned about $4mm.

If that's the case, trade him wherever and for whatever you can and sign Julius Peppers.

Peppers would cost at least double that, but you'd have a much better tandem than you currently have and he and Ware would be a nightmare for opposing defenses.

Going into an uncapped 2010, I think Jerry and Stephen Jones could pull it off.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

If that's the case, trade him wherever and for whatever you can and sign Julius Peppers.

Peppers would cost at least double that, but you'd have a much better tandem than you currently have and he and Ware would be a nightmare for opposing defenses.

Going into an uncapped 2010, I think Jerry and Stephen Jones could pull it off.

stopp..your getting me excited

 

[Marktui]

Ellis has been a good player the last few years. The position switch has helped him. Remember when he went down with the achilles 3 years ago. We had a tough time replacing him.

I don't want to let him go, Spencer does get hurt a lot and his off the field escapades early in the offseason could hinder him next year. I say keep him, make the OLB opposite Ware open for competition and best man wins.

If there is a OLB in the draft that we can bring along and groom in case Spencer's careers goes south could be a good idea.

 

[28 Joker]

I think Greg Ellis should go. He isn't worth 6.25 million against the cap. He is a part time player. He did have 8 sacks, and he played much better after the bye when Terence Newman came back.

However, take a look at his season:

During the first 6 games, Ellis had 2.0 sacks. He tallied them against the Eagles. Then, Ellis went 6 straight games without a sack.

After that six game sackless streak, Ellis tallied 1 sack against the Rams. Then, he went 3 games without one. That is 3 sacks in 9 games.

After the bye, Ellis put up 5 sacks, including 2.5 against the Giants. The Giants lost their RT in that game. That is 5 sacks in 7 games.

I will take my chances with replacing him with a younger player, via the draft or free agency. When you are averaging 10.1 wins a season over the past three years, Ellis is expendable.

Anthony Spencer had 3.0 sacks his rookie year, and he didn't play on third down very much this past year. Plus, he missed four games due to injury. You can't have a steak at every position. The third rusher is important, but not $6.25 million important. Spencer and another player can make up for his sack production.

Spencer should be able to, at least, double the 3.0 sack total of his rookie year. That would be 6 sacks vs Ellis' 8 in 2008.

The time for Anthony Spencer is now. You can't get sacks if you don't play on third down. Spencer had 1.5 sacks. By letting Ellis go, you get rid of a perpetual complainer, and you are putting responsibility on Anthony Spencer. Spencer needs to be challenged, and ditching Ellis will challenge him. He was looking great in camp before he was hurt against a cutblocking team. Ellis' behavior isn't helpful to Spencer or the team. It can be described as selfish.

It is up to Anthony Spencer to grab the opportunity and go. He has to grow up on and off the field. It's time to quit treating him like a baby. The Steelers didn't treat Lamar Woodley like a baby, and they wouldn't keep Ellis around (at a $ 6.25 million dollar price tag) and hold his development back.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

I think Greg Ellis should go. He isn't worth 6.25 million against the cap. He is a part time player. He did have 8 sacks, and he played much better after the bye when Terence Newman came back.

However, take a look at his season:

During the first 6 games, Ellis had 2.0 sacks. He tallied them against the Eagles. Then, Ellis went 6 straight games without a sack.

After that six game sackless streak, Ellis tallied 1 sack against the Rams. Then, he went 3 games without one. That is 3 sacks in 9 games.

After the bye, Ellis put up 5 sacks, including 2.5 against the Giants. The Giants lost their RT in that game. That is 5 sacks in 7 games.

I will take my chances with replacing him with a younger player, via the draft or free agency. When you are averaging 10.1 wins a season over the past three years, Ellis is expendable.

Anthony Spencer had 3.0 sacks his rookie year, and he didn't play on third down very much this past year. Plus, he missed four games due to injury. You can't have a steak at every position. The third rusher is important, but not $6.25 million important. Spencer and another player can make up for his sack production.

Spencer should be able to, at least, double the 3.0 sack total of his rookie year. That would be 6 sacks vs Ellis' 8 in 2008.

The time for Anthony Spencer is now. You can't get sacks if you don't play on third down. Spencer had 1.5 sacks. By letting Ellis go, you get rid of a perpetual complainer, and you are putting responsibility on Anthony Spencer. Spencer needs to be challenged, and ditching Ellis will challenge him. He was looking great in camp before he was hurt against a cutblocking team. Ellis' behavior isn't helpful to Spencer or the team. It can be described as selfish.

It is up to Anthony Spencer to grab the opportunity and go. He has to grow up on and off the field. It's time to quit treating him like a baby. The Steelers didn't treat Lamar Woodley like a baby, and they wouldn't keep Ellis around (at a $ 6.25 million dollar price tag) and hold his development back.

Exactly..I want to see Spencer as a full time OLB with someone giving him a spell every now and than. That price tag on Ellis can be allocated into different areas..like the D-line? or secondary? A guy like Tyrone Mckenzie would be there in the draft to take Ellis's spot alot cheaper!

 

[28 Joker]

Exactly..I want to see Spencer as a full time OLB with someone giving him a spell every now and than. That price tag on Ellis can be allocated into different areas..like the D-line? or secondary? A guy like Tyrone Mckenzie would be there in the draft to take Ellis's spot alot cheaper!

I agree with you. I just read Matt Mosley's blog. He had a link to this story. I read Ellis' comments, and it really ticked me off. He's selfish, and he blames the coaches, get ready for this, for the players being distracted. He thinks players are distracted when you "don't use them right". He has no accountabilty, and he isn't a team player. Plus, he and the Water Pistol, formerly known as a "Tank", ran to Jerry Jones to cry about the way they were being used.

As soon as iOwens is gone. He's next, imo.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

I agree with you. I just read Matt Mosley's blog. He had a link to this story. I read Ellis' comments, and it really ticked me off. He's selfish, and he blames the coaches, get ready for this, for the players being distracted. He thinks players are distracted when you "don't use them right". He has no accountabilty, and he isn't a team player. Plus, he and the Water Pistol, formerly known as a "Tank", ran to Jerry Jones to cry about the way they were being used.

As soon as iOwens is gone. He's next, imo.

Then Henry..it's time to revamp the bottom part of the roster!! We got some great core peices..we just need the role players(draft picks)!! and Ellis aint one of em! seeya!

 

[NextGenBoys]

If that's the case, trade him wherever and for whatever you can and sign Julius Peppers.

Peppers would cost at least double that, but you'd have a much better tandem than you currently have and he and Ware would be a nightmare for opposing defenses.

Going into an uncapped 2010, I think Jerry and Stephen Jones could pull it off.

My understanding is the CBA deal just needs replaced. There is no guarentee it is going to be uncapped IIRC

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Id cut him, Roy, & Anthony Henry restructure Romo, T.O., Flo and go after Suggs( Or cut T.O./Flo if cap allows it). Probably more a Madden move, but Ray Lewis will be Baltimores top priority and Suggs isnt taking any hometown discount.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

I heard Peppers isnt a media guy..... So I doubt he wants any part of thr circus

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Id cut him, Roy, & Anthony Henry restructure Romo, T.O., Flo and go after Suggs( Or cut T.O./Flo if cap allows it). Probably more a Madden move, but Ray Lewis will be Baltimores top priority and Suggs isnt taking any hometown discount.

Suggs would be disgusting with Ware..would never happen though. Spencer would never see the field..It would be pointless having him. I think someone here mentioned putting Spencer as a DE(he was in college), while having Suggs as OLB. It's fun to think about though..Suggs and Ware....