DMN Blog: Spencer only flourished once Greg Ellis was gone

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Todd asks the question on an earlier post if you would be open to having Greg Ellis back on the Cowboys roster.

My question is this: would Anthony Spencer have developed into the player he was at the end of the season if Ellis had never been let go? I don't think so.

Remember, Spencer got off to a slow start. He failed to record a sack and had more than five tackles in a game only once in the first half of the season. Based on those numbers, Ellis would have taken more and more of his snaps in the second half of the season.

Based on where they were, I'm not sure Spencer would haven't beaten Ellis out of the starting job heading into the season.

Spencer got his legs under him and finished strong with six sacks, two forced fumbles and 15 quarterback pressures in the final six games. If Ellis had been around, he never would have gotten the snaps he needed in the first 10 games to develop to that point.
 

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You're never going to be sure if the young guy can play until he is forced to play. There is only so much that can be learned in practice.

You just have to get rid of your progress stoppers at some point in time and let the kids play. It is up to the scouts to find the players, the coaches to teach them right and the players to dedicate themselves to the game.
 

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Eskimo;3302488 said:
You're never going to be sure if the young guy can play until he is forced to play. There is only so much that can be learned in practice.

You just have to get rid of your progress stoppers at some point in time and let the kids play. It is up to the scouts to find the players, the coaches to teach them right and the players to dedicate themselves to the game.

Absolutely agree.
 

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Am I missing something or is it much harder to flourish on the side line?
 

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We let Ellis go for a reason.

Spencer doesn't whine as much. It's a shame Greg got his leg broken. He was an All Pro before it. After it, he complained about everything.
 

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Jon88;3302577 said:
We let Ellis go for a reason.

Spencer doesn't whine as much. It's a shame Greg got his leg broken. He was an All Pro before it. After it, he complained about everything.
$$$ is why they let him go!
 

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Spencer would have been the same guy if Ellis was here! I think the late start has more to do with the team... Ware had the same problem and noone is saying its bc of Ellis... I love the offseason ppl just forget what happen and make up theories!


Didn't Scandrick have a slow start too... Maybe we can attribute his improved play on the Ellis departure as well!
 

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Bleu Star;3302631 said:
Choice will flourish once MB3 is gone...

I hope Garret thinks the same.

So far he loves to pull running backs who kick ***.
 

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greg would be one hell of a back up LB/DE

anyone want to tell me ware couldn't have rested his injuries a lot more if greg were here?

He could more than adequately replace both outside linebacking spots and all three dline spots in an emergency.

I am officially on the bring back greg bandwagon.

Who's with me?
 

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Four;3302648 said:
greg would be one hell of a back up LB/DE

anyone want to tell me ware couldn't have rested his injuries a lot more if greg were here?

He could more than adequately replace both outside linebacking spots and all three dline spots in an emergency.

I am officially on the bring back greg bandwagon.

Who's with me?

Not me
 

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tico;3302596 said:
$$$ is why they let him go!
They actually had him signed to a bargain contract. It's his complaining about the cheap contract and playing time that got him cut along with needing to get Spencer on the field.
 
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