DMN: Curious George, training camp edition: Was CB Tyler Patmon helped by fight

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Curious George, training camp edition: Was CB Tyler Patmon helped by fight; remember LG Ron Leary?
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Published: August 3, 2015 2:15 pm

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Dallas Cowboys defensive end Jeremy Mincey (92) puts his arm around defensive back Tyler Patmon as players try to calm down an altercation between wide receiver Dez Bryant and Patmon during practice at training camp on Sunday, Aug. 2, 2015, in Oxnard, Calif. (Smiley N. Pool/The Dallas Morning News)

OXNARD, Calif. — With the first off day of training camp here for the Dallas Cowboys, this gives me time to scratch my head.

We kept Curious George rolling through the offseason and the draft, and now we’ll get back to it Monday after the first four practices of training camp.


Sunday brought us drama: the first fight of training camp. Reserve cornerback Tyler Patmon held his own against receiver Dez Bryant, who just wouldn’t let it go as the two went to the sideline.

With the fight over now, lets’ get right to this edition of Curious George and five things I’m scratching my head over these days in sunny California:

* I’m curious how much CB Tyler Patmon gained Sunday with his play on field, standing up to Dez Bryant: Tyler Patmon just isn’t fighting Dez Bryant at training camp this year. He’s fighting for a job. I wonder how impressed the Cowboys coaches were with him Sunday and what that will mean for him in the end. The Cowboys brought in competition for Patmon this offseason in first-round pick Byron Jones and veteran free agent Corey White. Patmon had his moments last season for the Cowboys, helping to replace Morris Claiborne. Patmon knows he has to show coaches in training camp this year he should stick around. Before the fight Sunday, Patmon had played well in 1-on-1 and team drills. Patmon filled in for Morris Claiborne in team drills as the Cowboys play it safe with Claiborne early in camp. Patmon had back-to-back pass breakups in 1-on-1 drills earlier Sunday – once against WR Terrrance Williams – and was solid in his coverage in team drills. Patmon never backed down when matched up on the outside against Bryant. He never backed down from Bryant in the fight either, actually throwing the first punch after Bryant ripped off his helmet. Standing up to a team leader like Bryant and the way Patmon stood out in individual drills had to help him in his case to make the final roster.

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Nate Newton was there. He said the fight lasted way too long (aftermath) and it was all Dez's fault. It continued for another 10 minutes on the sidelines. When Dez was needed on the field, he was so riled up that he missed some plays. Even Stephen Jones was trying to calm him down. Fortunately, Dez and Tyler high fived after Garrett talked to Dez. But Nate didn't sound too pleased.
 

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Dez is going to be that type of player who feeds off his emotions.

Its not out of the realm to expect a riled up Dez to be difficult to calm down. It will be part of the maturing he has to do.
 

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I am just excited that we have a legitimate shot at having a really good backfield. If a few of these young guys step up (Patmon, Jones, White and Claiborne) The fighting is just competitiveness and it will eventually translate to the field. Fighting is just part of the game if your competitive, in the end, they will see that they are all in the same foxhole.
 

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Nate Newton was there. He said the fight lasted way too long (aftermath) and it was all Dez's fault. It continued for another 10 minutes on the sidelines. When Dez was needed on the field, he was so riled up that he missed some plays. Even Stephen Jones was trying to calm him down. Fortunately, Dez and Tyler high fived after Garrett talked to Dez. But Nate didn't sound too pleased.

Yes, he could get ejected from a game for that type of nonsense.

He was very lucky that they didn't penalize him last year in the playoffs for being on the field when the Cowboys defense was on the field.
 

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Nobody has ever said, or stated in an interview, or written in an article, exactly why Dez was so upset.
Was it a low hit, at the knees,... was it a slap to the helmet,...
Personally, I would like to know...
Is Dez being correct in this situation, or is he playing the "I just got payed" Prima Donna role.
 

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First off, Patmon is not fighting for a roster spot. He has one.

Second, the entire NFL took notice, and I guarantee you, Dez can expect some players taking high shots on him early so they can get him kicked out of games. Throw a punch, and you're gone. Dez threw several at Patmon.
 

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Nobody has ever said, or stated in an interview, or written in an article, exactly why Dez was so upset.
Was it a low hit, at the knees,... was it a slap to the helmet,...
Personally, I would like to know...
Is Dez being correct in this situation, or is he playing the "I just got payed" Prima Donna role.
There is a pic in one of the other threads when they were on the field with helmets still on and they were knocking them off. Tyler hit Dez in the mouth. I think when that happened Dez wanted to get him back.
 

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First off, Patmon is not fighting for a roster spot. He has one.

Second, the entire NFL took notice, and I guarantee you, Dez can expect some players taking high shots on him early so they can get him kicked out of games. Throw a punch, and you're gone. Dez threw several at Patmon.

High shots? that is 15 yarder on defender and if the refs feel it is somehow intentional it will be the defender getting kicked out of the games. Dez has been in the league how long? and this is now some type of issue or problem? People are getting carried away with this. Media loves it because it sells, maybe that is why there is more media at Cowboys camp than most other teams
 

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High shots? that is 15 yarder on defender and if the refs feel it is somehow intentional it will be the defender getting kicked out of the games. Dez has been in the league how long? and this is now some type of issue or problem? People are getting carried away with this. Media loves it because it sells, maybe that is why there is more media at Cowboys camp than most other teams

It's hands-to-the-face, which is what Patmon was doing to Dez over and over. Then, when they started scuffling, Patmon apparently was whooping up on Dez pretty good, which is why Dez wouldn't let it go.

I'm just saying, teams are going to go after Dez' emotions. That's his weakness.
 

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First off, Patmon is not fighting for a roster spot. He has one.

Second, the entire NFL took notice, and I guarantee you, Dez can expect some players taking high shots on him early so they can get him kicked out of games. Throw a punch, and you're gone. Dez threw several at Patmon.

It never worked for Deangelo Hall, and boy he sure tried.
 

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It's hands-to-the-face, which is what Patmon was doing to Dez over and over. Then, when they started scuffling, Patmon apparently was whooping up on Dez pretty good, which is why Dez wouldn't let it go.

I'm just saying, teams are going to go after Dez' emotions. That's his weakness.

Dez has been in the NFL for 5 years when has he been kicked out of a game? Come on, this is ridicules. it was a fight they happen all the time around the NFL nothing big about it. Yes Dez is emotional so was Irvin and guess what it never hurt Irvin either. Dez is not new to the NFL teams do know him, this is not his rookie year he has been around the block
 

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Dez has been in the NFL for 5 years when has he been kicked out of a game? Come on, this is ridicules. it was a fight they happen all the time around the NFL nothing big about it. Yes Dez is emotional so was Irvin and guess what it never hurt Irvin either. Dez is not new to the NFL teams do know him, this is not his rookie year he has been around the block

I'm just saying they took notice and will try. You don't have to get him kicked out to take him out of a game. They had to sideline him at practice for 15 minutes because he just couldn't calm down. Romo and Stephen Jones had to intervene. THAT got noticed.
 

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I'm just saying they took notice and will try. You don't have to get him kicked out to take him out of a game. They had to sideline him at practice for 15 minutes because he just couldn't calm down. Romo and Stephen Jones had to intervene. THAT got noticed.

He has been emotional since day 1 this is nothing new. So what Romo intervened and now it is over with. This is the same mountain out of a mole hill that gets old. Lets take nothing and turn it into some big deal. Seems to be par for course with the media but to see fans buying into this come on
 
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