DMN: Dallas Cowboys continue talks with Hamlin

[Pick6TerenceNewman]

Dallas Cowboys continue talks with Hamlin



[SIZE=-1]09:27 PM CDT on Sunday, July 13, 2008[/SIZE]


[SIZE=-1]By TODD ARCHER / The Dallas Morning News [/SIZE]
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IRVING – When he vacationed in Orlando last summer, agent Kennard McGuire brokered a long-term deal with Detroit for its franchise player, Cory Redding.

McGuire hopes the same can happen for another client this week, Cowboys' franchise player Ken Hamlin, although a deadline is approaching.

The Cowboys and McGuire have until 3 p.m. Tuesday to reach an agreement on a long-term deal or else the Pro Bowl safety can only play for the one-year tender offer of $4.396 million.

Since putting the franchise tag on Hamlin in March, the Cowboys were able to finalize multiyear deals for fellow Pro Bowlers Flozell Adams, Terence Newman, Terrell Owens and Marion Barber, among others.

Even as they vacationed, Cowboys executive vice president Stephen Jones and McGuire kept negotiating on a multi-year deal last week, but the talks figure to take on more urgency.

With more than $8 million in salary-cap room, money has not been the issue, however, the structure of the contract has because of changes in the collective bargaining agreement coming next year.

Because he did not sign the tender, Hamlin did not take part in the team's off-season conditioning program, organized team activities or the mandatory mini-camp, but he has had contact with the defensive coaches. The Cowboys fly to Oxnard, Calif., on July 24 with their first training camp practice coming a day later.

 

[Coakleys Dad]

lets go already...

 

[Pick6TerenceNewman]

lets go already...

At 27, He easily can play for the next six years!

 

[Pick6TerenceNewman]

Does anybody know what Gibril Wilson got from the Raiders? I know he got big money, for a guy whom never made it to the ProBowl!

 

[dmq]

I am pretty luke warm on giving this guy a big contract. I just think we can spend it elsewhere for other guys hitting the market. Can we sign everyone? Ware is a no-brainer, but I am worried about Canty, maybe Columbo if someone doesn't step up and maybe Tank. Also, Hatcher may have a good season and look to be a starter. Oh well, as an NFL fan I always worry.

 

[goons]

Does anybody know what Gibril Wilson got from the Raiders? I know he got big money, for a guy whom never made it to the ProBowl!

In the NFL, you are held to the standards set by your stupidest competitor. I think Jerry is wanting to change that.

 

[Pick6TerenceNewman]

In the NFL, you are held to the standards set by your stupidest competitor. I think Jerry is wanting to change that.

LOL! That's Al Davis for you! Hamlin, IMO, is worth the money that Wilson got, he made it to the ProBowl and Wilson is an average player.

 

[burmafrd]

For those that keep saying we do not need Hamlin, I remind them how long we looked for someone who could do the job and who do they think on the roster who can do it even as close to as well now.

 

[Bizwah]

For those that keep saying we do not need Hamlin, I remind them how long we looked for someone who could do the job and who do they think on the roster who can do it even as close to as well now.

I'm for keeping Hamlin...not at any cost, of course.

But I think you're forgetting what we had in the entire secondary.

Sure, we had Roy and TNew. But we never really had a guy across from TNew until Henry (and he's always hurt).

It finally seems that we have a stout group of CBs....I'm not saying FS won't be important...but I think with the group of CBs we have, that it won't be as big of a deal as it was the last three years.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Ken Hamlin is a better play than Wilson so Jerry should give him a nice contract...

 

[dannyboy]

Since we have so much cap room this year, why not give hamlin a roster bonus of 5 million. I assume for cap purposes, the bonus would fall entirely in the contract year. This will help with his overall contract number

Thoughts?

 

[dbair1967]

Does anybody know what Gibril Wilson got from the Raiders? I know he got big money, for a guy whom never made it to the ProBowl!

I think he got something like 39mils for 6 or 7yrs...Madieu Williams got a ridiculous deal too as I recall

David

 

[CrazyCowboy]

We need to get this done ASAP.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

we just simple cannot make this guy the highest paid FS in the NFL...we just cannot do it...just say no Jerry...make him play for the one year franchise tag

 

[Pick6TerenceNewman]

I think he got something like 39mils for 6 or 7yrs...Madieu Williams got a ridiculous deal too as I recall

David

That's just sick! That I guess is why them teams suck every year.

 

[dueyhemlock]

we just simple cannot make this guy the highest paid FS in the NFL...we just cannot do it...just say no Jerry...make him play for the one year franchise tag

Do not hand out all pro money to someone that hasn't performed at a high level consistently. Make him play out the tag for another year of evaluation.

Downside is if Roy bombs this year and Hamlin performs well again, then we might get into a bidding war next year for Hamlin in free agency.

I think Jerry signs him now due to lack of options (our young guys uncertainty, Roy's ?).

I hope this doesn't happen because I prefer to sign Canty, move Ratliff to DE and sign Tank for NT. Our future D-line . Then hope Roy works out, move Henry if need be, young guy steps up, and we have the draft.

 

[goons]

Hamlin was great last year, no doubt. He may have personal issues that make him a risk or something. Seattle had him since they drafted him in '03 and let him walk while they signed Deon Grant for 6 years and $30mil and Brian Russell for 5 years and $13.5 mil. They paid Grant twice what Dallas paid Hamlin. There is a reason Seattle let him walk and brought someone else in at twice the price, and there's a reason the Cowboys are dealing with him as they are. I dunno what it is, but there's more going on than we know I think.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The Cowboys and McGuire have until 3 p.m. Tuesday to reach an agreement on a long-term deal or else the Pro Bowl safety can only play for the one-year tender offer of $4.396 million.

I'm expecting an announcement before that deadline.

I'd rather not go into 2009 looking for 2 new starting safities.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I think Hamlin will get resigned for a couple reasons. #1 he's a very very good FS. Much better than we've had since Woody retired.

#2 if Roy bombs, again, and is let go next offseason then they can very easily slip Hamlin over to SS, if need be, and either go with what we've got behind Hamlin at FS, move Henry to FS (Which seems like a very good possibility after reading an article about it over at Dallascowboys.com a couple months ago) or draft a new guy to play FS.

What we don't need is next offseason to be cutting Roy (If he's bombed again) and then be in a bidding war for Hamlin and wind up losing him too. With all the hard work we put in this offseason, to making our secondary stronger, the last thing we need is for next offseason for it to be tanked again with the loss of both starting safeties.

 

[slick325]

Do not hand out all pro money to someone that hasn't performed at a high level consistently. Make him play out the tag for another year of evaluation.

Downside is if Roy bombs this year and Hamlin performs well again, then we might get into a bidding war next year for Hamlin in free agency.

I think Jerry signs him now due to lack of options (our young guys uncertainty, Roy's ?).

I hope this doesn't happen because I prefer to sign Canty, move Ratliff to DE and sign Tank for NT. Our future D-line . Then hope Roy works out, move Henry if need be, young guy steps up, and we have the draft.

I agree with your 1st paragraph 100%. I think they should let Hamlin play out this season and prove that last season wasn't a fluke. The fact that he has not been a consistent playmaker his entire career worries me a bit. He has been a starting FS his whole career and has less career INT's than the SS everyone in the league and on this board thinks stinks. That says something to me.