DMN: Gosselin: If Cowboys want Super Bowl QB, now is the time to draft him

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[Direwolf63]

I know a lot of people don't like Gosselin. I get it.

But on this issue, he's right. Get the QB now that you have the #4 pick. Because, hopefully, we won't be that high again. If the Cowboys evaluate Lynch and that they think he's the next Rothlisberger, draft him and don't look back.

 

[waving monkey]

The shopping list is obvious for the Cowboys. When you finish 4-12, you have plenty of needs.

A pass rusher would be near the top of the list. So would a cornerback with ball skills. There also could be a running back and a linebacker sitting there who would look mighty attractive to coach Jason Garrett when the Cowboys go on the clock in the first round.

But with the fourth overall pick of the 2016 NFL draft, the Cowboys must zero in on a quarterback. That's where you find greatness at the position. You can get lucky and pluck a Joe Montana in the third round or a Tom Brady in the sixth. But historically, the top five is where you find the difference makers.

The winning quarterbacks in 27 of the first 49 Super Bowls were first-round draft picks. Quarterbacks selected in the top five combined to win 19 of those Super Bowls: Len Dawson, Joe Namath, Bob Griese, Terry Bradshaw, Jim Plunkett, Jim McMahon, John Elway, Troy Aikman and both Peyton and Eli Manning.

The Cowboys can draft a pass rusher or a running back in the first round this April and instantly become a better team. That might bump the win count to eight, nine or even 10 in 2016. Jones does not want to draft in the top five again. So this may be the one chance -- the best chance, the last chance -- the Cowboys have of finding a worthy successor to Tony Romo at quarterback.

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[StarBoyz83]

It is rare to pick top 5 but they don't have to go qb. They'll have plenty of top 5 picks after romo is done in a year or 2.

 

[Dday22t]

Top 1-3 since 2000 is irrelevant unless we trade up..... but Top 4 or 5 since 2000 only examples are Philip Rivers at #4 '04 or Mark Sanchez at #5 '09. Coin flip 50/50

 

[Rack]

Kind of a moot point, both will probably be off the board before the 4th pick.

That said, I don't think Lynch or Goff are an "Elway" anyway.

 

[texbumthelife]

But historically, the top five is where you find the difference makers.

I went ahead and did the leg work. Just food for thought.

Taken in the top five since 2000 (starters in Italics):
Michael Vick 2001
David Carr 2002
Joey Harrington 2002
Carson Palmer 2003
Eli Manning 2004
Phillip Rivers 2004
Alex Smith 2005
Vince Young 2006
Jamarcus Russel 2007
Matt Ryan 2008
Matt Stafford 2009
Mark Sanchez 2009
Sam Bradford 2010
Cam Newton 2011
Andrew Luck 2012
Robert Griffin III 2012
Jamies Winston 2015*
Marcus Mariotta 2015*

Taken Outside the Top Five Since 2000 (I am only listing notables/starters because clearly, there are literally thousands more selections outside the top five in this time span):
Tom Brady 2000
Drew Brees 2001
Ben Roethlisberger 2004
Aaron Rodgers 2005
Joe Flacco 2008
Andy Dalton 2011
Tyrod Taylor 2011
Ryan Tannehill 2012
Russel Wilson 2012
Kirk Cousins 2012
Teddy Bridgewater 2014*
Derek Carr 2014*

*jury is still out on these players as 1-2 years is not enough to know what they are

You tell me which lists has more difference makers...

 

[pjtoadie]

Kind of a moot point, both will probably be off the board before the 4th pick.

That said, I don't think Lynch or Goff are an "Elway" anyway.

I think Cleveland will take Goff at #2 or SF will trade up for him but I think Lynch will be there at #4.

 

[pjtoadie]

It is rare to pick top 5 but they don't have to go qb. They'll have plenty of top 5 picks after romo is done in a year or 2.

Wouldn't it be better though to have the next QB ready when Tony retires so we won't have to draft top 5....

 

[LatinMind]

Funny how gosselin in says top 5 and phrases it with qb and super bowl but in all them qbs he listed only 1 has been to a Super Bowl Eli. But in the list Tex put up outside the top 5 there have been 6. Lol gosselin major fail. With the rules of today a avg qb can be a star because of the rules in place to keep scores up for entertainment purposes. Nfl has marginalized the top spot on a football team.

 

[IrishAnto]

I went ahead and did the leg work. Just food for thought.

Taken in the top five since 2000 (starters in Italics):
Michael Vick 2001
David Carr 2002
Joey Harrington 2002
Carson Palmer 2003
Eli Manning 2004
Phillip Rivers 2004
Alex Smith 2005
Vince Young 2006
Jamarcus Russel 2007
Matt Ryan 2008
Matt Stafford 2009
Mark Sanchez 2009
Sam Bradford 2010
Cam Newton 2011
Andrew Luck 2012
Robert Griffin III 2012
Jamies Winston 2015*
Marcus Mariotta 2015*

Taken Outside the Top Five Since 2000 (I am only listing notables/starters because clearly, there are literally thousands more selections outside the top five in this time span):
Tom Brady 2000
Drew Brees 2001
Ben Roethlisberger 2004
Aaron Rodgers 2005
Joe Flacco 2008
Andy Dalton 2011
Tyrod Taylor 2011
Ryan Tannehill 2012
Russel Wilson 2012
Kirk Cousins 2012
Teddy Bridgewater 2014*
Derek Carr 2014*

*jury is still out on these players as 1-2 years is not enough to know what they are

You tell me which lists has more difference makers...

The reality is you need to take a QB in the 1st or at the very least 2nd round to give yourself the best chance of finding a guy that can do the job.

We happen to be picking 4th so unless you can trade down and guarantee your guy is there when you pick, then the 4th pick it is.

If you think the QB is up to the job then I have no problem using the 4th overall pick on him.

 

[Alexander]

The Cowboys can draft a pass rusher or a running back in the first round this April and instantly become a better team.

I don't think either merit the 4th pick from a "value" standpoint.

Some like Bosa at the top and that is fine. Is he an elite rusher?

Not sure about that. I also don't think he is a J.J. Watt. To me, he is a Chris Long.

 

[Risen Star]

I will be pointing back to this offseason like I do the 2012 offseason as a huge opportunity lost. Goose is 100% correct.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Wouldn't it be better though to have the next QB ready when Tony retires so we won't have to draft top 5....

It would but with Garretts play book and his handcuffing I think we'd still have a top 5 pick for a while.

 

[Gaede]

Hmmm, not a fan of the top two QBs at 4, but this is a very compelling argument

 

[bayeslife]

Kind of a moot point, both will probably be off the board before the 4th pick.

That said, I don't think Lynch or Goff are an "Elway" anyway.

They'll be gone before #4? I guess someone is trading up then.

 

[Alexander]

Hmmm, not a fan of the top two QBs at 4, but this is a very compelling argument

It is a pretty simple argument.

No QB in this league, no wins.

You can sit there and recite bust after bust after bust at the position high in the draft and be scared. You will lose.

It is a dice roll that has to be taken if you want to have on-going consistent success for any extended period of time.

It is the hardest position to evaluate and the only way to overcome that is to kill it with not only numbers, but quality.

That means investing a top draft choice in one.

 

[tyke1doe]

Kind of a moot point, both will probably be off the board before the 4th pick.

That said, I don't think Lynch or Goff are an "Elway" anyway.

Gosselin doesn't say they're an "Elway."

 

[tyke1doe]

Hmmm, not a fan of the top two QBs at 4, but this is a very compelling argument

It is a very compelling argument. I'm wavering. I don't think either will be available, and I'm not for giving up picks to go get one of them because I don't view them as an "Elway" or a "Luck."

But ... if the Cowboys feel either Lynch or Goff will secure the future at quarterback and if statistically you find your Super Bowl quarterback in the top 5 and if you believe Lynch or Goff are blue-chip quarterbacks, you MUST take one of them.

So I'm all in favor of the Cowboys drafting a quarterback. It isn't about now, it's about the future too.

 

[slick325]

I'm on board with drafting the QB of the future in this draft and Goose is correct in his assessment assuming the Scouts and Coaching staff are correct about the player. Goff or Lynch sitting behind #9 for 2-3 seasons in order to learn and develop would be great as long as the Cowboys continue to draft well and pick quality players around them.

The only fear is that Bob Griffin showed promise in his rookie season (albeit in a gimmick offense) and due to injuries and other things he flamed out spectacularly in Washington. The draft is always a crap shoot and Goose is right that this is where you gamble if you want a franchise QB. But watching Griffin no longer be the guy in Washington gives me pause unless Dallas drafts two QB's in this draft to hedge their bets similar to what Shanahan did when he took Captain Kirk in 2012. Doing that will limit Dallas to having only their high 2nd and 3rd rounders have a chance to make an immediate impact on the 2016 season because the 1st rounder and likely a 4th rounder would be used on the 2018 or 2019 seasons.

Weighty decisions to be made in Dallas this offseason. If they believe either of these guys are Franchise QB's who can lead you to SB's....then roll the dice but don't be afraid to hedge your bets or cut ties early if they show no signs of being that guy. Hate to say it but...use Washington as an example.