DMN: Report: Jason Garrett pulled trigger on Cowboys' coaching changes; Bill Callahan 'not thrilled'

17yearsandcounting

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In one particular regard.
That has little bearing on whether the team wins or loses.
On the side of the ball that delivered top-5 points/series performance last season.
That we think we might have improved with the hiring of another experienced coach to address a play calling situation the head coach did not like from the year before.

Somebody find me another emotional bridge to jump off; I feel like complaining about something and don't want to bother discriminating as to whether or not it's actually a problem.

So he addressed the situation by hiring someone who scored less points.

Ivy league stuff right there.
 

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We have hired 12 coaches over the past 2 seasons under "coach in training" and you are telling me there is no continuity problem?

Talk about bad arguments.......................I needed a good laugh today, so thank you.

You're welcome. If reading things out of context and then misinterpreting the things I say in context amuses you, that makes me happy, too. You seem stressed here recently, and I'm sure laughter makes things better.

Since this thread is about the offensive coaching staff, my continuity point was obviously in regards to the offense. But, for the record, that cherry-picked 12 coaches number includes changing over our defensive scheme with two different staffs which has entailed some significant turnover. I'd be interested to see the list of assistants we've turned over before deciding how much it likely mattered in the scheme of things. If we're talking Wes-Phillips for Mike-Pope stuff here, or adding another assistant OL coach to the roster, or adding another experienced by like Linehan to the staff, I can live with that. There's nothing magical about the words '12' or 'Cleveland' that should have you quaking in your Cowboy boots.
 

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So he addressed the situation by hiring someone who scored less points.

Ivy league stuff right there.

Sigh. Coaches don't score points. Teams do. He hired someone he thinks he can work effectively with and who he thinks can make the team better.

Do we really have to pore over every variance between two different offenses with 11 different starters playing in two completely different schedules in two completely different divisions under two completely different circumstances and defend this singular Cowboys decision against every possible statistical variance not in our favor? That sort of seems like a ridiculous expectation for evaluating an assistant coaching hire, doesn't it?
 

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So he addressed the situation by hiring someone who scored less points.

Ivy league stuff right there.


Lol can't argue with the guy. Cowboys do very little wrong in his eyes and when they do there isn't any reason to discuss it cause we can't do anything about it.
 

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Lets be real here

Linehan is a career loser, so no wonder why Boy Wonder is so tight with him.

Have you seen some of the coaching staffs Lineloser has been on?

John L. Smith? Meathead Tice? His own pathetic St. Louis staff? Nick Saban's staff when he was hiding out for whatever he did in the NCAA? Jim Schwartz?

Scott, your resume..........WOOOF.
 

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You're welcome. If reading things out of context and then misinterpreting the things I say in context amuses you, that makes me happy, too. You seem stressed here recently, and I'm sure laughter makes things better.

Since this thread is about the offensive coaching staff, my continuity point was obviously in regards to the offense. But, for the record, that cherry-picked 12 coaches number includes changing over our defensive scheme with two different staffs which has entailed some significant turnover. I'd be interested to see the list of assistants we've turned over before deciding how much it likely mattered in the scheme of things. If we're talking Wes-Phillips for Mike-Pope stuff here, or adding another assistant OL coach to the roster, or adding another experienced by like Linehan to the staff, I can live with that. There's nothing magical about the words '12' or 'Cleveland' that should have you quaking in your Cowboy boots.

Stressed?..................Beast is having a great time these days...............I am not the one trying to defend 500 records every year when I said from day 1 it would never work out.

I said back in 2010 that promoting Garrett, the co-pilot when the plane crashed, was the worst thing Jerry could do and we would never see the playoffs under Garrett.

4 years later, nothing I said has been proven wrong.......I have also won multiple sig bets against the folks that said I was stupid for saying it........so if being proved correct is stressful, then yea, I guess I am stressed...................LOL
 

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Hey. Here's a great idea. Let's bring the old Detroit Lions coaching staff to Dallas. They couldn't get it done there, maybe they can get it done in Dallas . . .

:cool:
Seems like every coach that leaves has beef with Garrett


Watch Callahan leave, go to Cleveland or somewhere else, and they become a top 5 offense . . . .
 

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Hey. Here's a great idea. Let's bring the old Detroit Lions coaching staff to Dallas. They couldn't get it done there, maybe they can get it done in Dallas . . .

:cool:



Watch Callahan leave, go to Cleveland or somewhere else, and they become a top 5 offense . . . .

We're already a top five offense in ppg.
 

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We're already a top five offense in ppg.

Top 10 offenses in the NFL in 2013 per ESPN:

RK TEAM YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G
1 San Francisco 1004 334.7 550 183.3 454 151.3 63 21.0
2 Indianapolis 922 461.0 753 376.5 169 84.5 67 33.5
3 Denver 870 435.0 630 315.0 240 120.0 50 25.0
4 New Orleans 843 421.5 550 275.0 293 146.5 41 20.5
5 New England 739 369.5 441 220.5 298 149.0 59 29.5
6 Seattle 585 292.5 296 148.0 289 144.5 46 23.0
7 San Diego 577 288.5 316 158.0 261 130.5 44 22.0
8 Kansas City 513 513.0 363 363.0 150 150.0 44 44.0
9 Cincinnati 439 439.0 326 326.0 113 113.0 10 10.0
10 Carolina 325 325.0 232 232.0 93 93.0 10 10.0
11 Green Bay 281 281.0 157 157.0 124 124.0 20 20.0
12 Philadelphia 256 256.0 176 176.0 80 80.0 24 24.0

We weren't even a top 12 offense . . . .
 

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Top 10 offenses in the NFL in 2013 per ESPN:

RK TEAM YDS YDS/G PASS P YDS/G RUSH R YDS/G PTS PTS/G
1 San Francisco 1004 334.7 550 183.3 454 151.3 63 21.0
2 Indianapolis 922 461.0 753 376.5 169 84.5 67 33.5
3 Denver 870 435.0 630 315.0 240 120.0 50 25.0
4 New Orleans 843 421.5 550 275.0 293 146.5 41 20.5
5 New England 739 369.5 441 220.5 298 149.0 59 29.5
6 Seattle 585 292.5 296 148.0 289 144.5 46 23.0
7 San Diego 577 288.5 316 158.0 261 130.5 44 22.0
8 Kansas City 513 513.0 363 363.0 150 150.0 44 44.0
9 Cincinnati 439 439.0 326 326.0 113 113.0 10 10.0
10 Carolina 325 325.0 232 232.0 93 93.0 10 10.0
11 Green Bay 281 281.0 157 157.0 124 124.0 20 20.0
12 Philadelphia 256 256.0 176 176.0 80 80.0 24 24.0

We weren't even a top 12 offense . . . .

Now exactly what did I say? We are a top five offense in ppg.

Scored 439 points (27.4/g), 5th of 32 in the NFL. Allowed 432 points (27.0/g), 26th.
Differential of 7 points (0.4/g), 15th. Expected W-L: 8.2-7.8.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/dal/2013.htm


It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that and to see the big problem.
 

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These reports come out every year that Garrett makes his choices on staff but you could have a youtube video of Garrett making the phone call to hire his own people at the same time Jerry was at the bar enjoying happy hour and people will still say Jerry stripped someone of their title and made a scapegoat outta someone. This time they mistreated poor old Bill Callahan, I'm sure he's gonna hate cashin Jerry's check every week. Who do they think they are trying to find a a play caller they like? After years of articles second guessing Garretts play calling now they can second guess who he hires as a play caller and write articles about how he done that wrong too.:rolleyes:
 

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Are you factoring the defensive and special touchdowns scored. I bet that average goes down a bit.

If you did that then you'd have to do it for them all. I'll give you the offense needs to get better despite the ppg. It also may have been better had the defense given them more offensive snaps and drive opportunity.
 

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Are you factoring the defensive and special touchdowns scored. I bet that average goes down a bit.


Yes that is with all scoring but when compared to other teams and you take away their d and st scores we were still at the top. I thought the same thing cause the eye test I wasn't impressed. I looked it up and we were top 5 in offensive tds. Points per yard or yds per point lol if thers a difference lol. And pretty much in the top of every scoring offensive category.


http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/offensive-touchdowns-per-game
 

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Are you factoring the defensive and special touchdowns scored. I bet that average goes down a bit.

If we had our normal 1-2 td's on defense/st instead of 6 td's it drops us down to about 11th in points per game just below #10 NO( who had zero defensive pts) This is one of the reasons why we are 4th in off/points per drive this year with so few yards.

If you consider the additional defensive scores from 2012 to 2013 and take out the Denver game for what it really was.. a one time thing, we are middle of the pack on offense in ppg, off/ppd and bottom half in TOP, plays from scrimmage, yards, rushing, 3rd down conversions, etc. However we did improve in red zone efficiency.

The net drive stats and scoring differential without these facts being considered is one big spin job for the pass happy Garrett band.
 

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If Jones would let him interview, he would have his choice of a couple of open jobs.

You gotta love the dolt, you really do. Jerry fired Rob Ryan and had to admit towards the end of the season that it may have been the wrong move. He'd rather keep Callahan around and pay him millions than have him go and succeed somewhere else, especially if Linehan flops here. Jerry will pay Callahan his salary just to keep his ego intact.
 
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