DMN: Report: Jason Garrett pulled trigger on Cowboys' coaching changes; Bill Callahan 'not thrilled'

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That's a bad thing? At some point, you want to have your HC controlling his staff, don't you? I'd want the authority to expend somebody I didn't think was doing what I wanted sufficiently.

I believe it's a last ditch attempt on Garrett's part. This is his 4th year, so either he makes the playoffs or he's gone. Even if he makes the playoffs and exits early he's gone IMHO considering the payroll he's working with.
 

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Nope, I think Callahan's overall play calling was, at best, stupefying and counter-intuitive. He's a good OL coach and maybe he's a decent West-Coast play-caller, but his play-calling in this offense with this personnel was painful to watch. Again, maybe there are some hidden truths we don't know about with Romo's limitations, he never has had a golden arm but last year was exceptionally bad for him,,, but outside of some hidden limitations I can't imagine why Callahan called the plays he called, Garrett's play-calling was better and that's why Callahan only lasted one year with those duties.

Having said all that, I think Garrett's offensive style might require a golden armed QB, somebody with accuracy and arm-strength, and even though I think Romo is a good QB he doesn't look like that guy lately.

Without Romo, Garrett's offense would be worse than it actually looks. Like I said, Callahan was working within Garrett's system on the passing game, meaning he was subjected to the limitations of Garrett's offense and probably Romo's injury. Callahan got better scoring in less yardage.
 

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Have you heard of Frank Pollack? Check his resume. While Callahan was off rebuilding the offense with Garrett and Romo, Pollack whipped this unit into shape.

Doesn't prove anything, because OL play is also contingent on play-calling and what your attempting to do. Maybe, just maybe the OL looked better because they had a guy that has actually coached a full offense before call plays with his zone-blocking scheme. The OL has always been Garrett's 'scapegoat', besides the Assistant Coach at the particular time, since he's been here.
 

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He wants chances, but doesn't afford that to others. Example: Rob Ryan

You just can't let go of this despite plenty of evidence that points to a problem not related to Xs and Os. I don't find it difficult to imagine Ryan being hard to work with although I don't know any specifics to be fair to him.
 

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You just can't let go of this despite plenty of evidence that points to a problem not related to Xs and Os. I don't find it difficult to imagine Ryan being hard to work with although I don't know any specifics to be fair to him.
All I know is, Ryan is kicking butt in NO while we're 31st. I like the bottom line.
 

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That's a bad thing? At some point, you want to have your HC controlling his staff, don't you? I'd want the authority to expend somebody I didn't think was doing what I wanted sufficiently.

At some point?

I thought Garrett had full say from the start.

At least that's what many of his supporters have been claiming.
 

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No, I hadn't thought lf that. But why would anybody agree to such terms?

Each party to a contract reaches for the most favorable terms for themselves. Maybe he got a bit more money?? It was just a thought, itut who knows. I doubt Jerry's keeping him at his contract for spite though....must be some kind of plan...however strange It appears.
 

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At some point?

I thought Garrett had full say from the start.

At least that's what many of his supporters have been claiming.

This game you guys have of pretending everybody who defends the team does so for the same reasons....you know that's not very convincing, right? I don't know and can't answer to everything many of his supporters claim. I'm only able to try to be logically consistent with my own previous posts.

I've never thought Garrett had full say with his staff, and I don't really know how much control he's got now. I still think both the play caller and the DC moves were good for the team, though. And I think the HC ought to have a lot of latitude in assembling his staff. I don't get why people complain about the Linehan hiring.
 

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All I know is, Ryan is kicking butt in NO while we're 31st. I like the bottom line.

Again, it wasn't his coaching abilities that were the issue; at least that I know of. Maybe it was both but I think not. And you can't compare the situation in NO to the one here last year. You can't get blood from a turnip.
 

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This game you guys have of pretending everybody who defends the team does so for the same reasons....you know that's not very convincing, right? I don't know and can't answer to everything many of his supporters claim. I'm only able to try to be logically consistent with my own previous posts.

I've never thought Garrett had full say with his staff, and I don't really know how much control he's got now. I still think both the play caller and the DC moves were good for the team, though. And I think the HC ought to have a lot of latitude in assembling his staff. I don't get why people complain about the Linehan hiring.

I was going to say read the bolded but I'll amend that to some people complain. It doesn't matter what the issue is or who it is.
 

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Again, it wasn't his coaching abilities that were the issue; at least that I know of. Maybe it was both but I think not. And you can't compare the situation in NO to the one here last year. You can't get blood from a turnip.
So getting along is more important than winning? And if the talent was not any good, why switch out coaches? Why then turn around and switch play callers again? According to you, it's the talent and not coaching.

You sound like Jerry Jones.
 

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I thought the same thing until I looked it up. You have take away all teamd d anf st scores. When you do we were still #5 in offensive ppg. #4 in offensive tds per game. Here's a link

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/offensive-points-per-game

Well if you read my post I also take out the Denver game because it was an anolomy. That drops us to middle of the pack. One great offensive performance does not count when it's was never repeated. I wish it was. Read your link... It moves us out of the top 10.

The problems are deeper than the defense. Maybe Linehan is the fix.
 

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Of course Callahan isn't thrilled. Who can blame him?

This guy should learn how to game plan, adjust during game time and call good plays at the right time. Then he shouldnt be worried about not being thrilled.

Who cares anyway. Fans werent thrilled about him either. I cant understand he is still under contract.
 

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Callahan is a West Coast coach, who was brought in to improve the running game with a zone blocking scheme. He became the OC cause JG sucked at his own system and produced more than JG did in one year of the latter's offense in this cluster F. I don't get how this division of labor is going to work, especially for play-action and the routes for which they are going to target off of it. This inability to blend the passing game with a running game has been JGs worst example of his poor coaching, and now we are back to square one again.

Hummm, food for thought. If you are right then Garrett tends to be one dimensional. This would explain his inability to call situational changes during the game. Outside of Jerry's inability to draft players then the following would always kept the Cowboys at 8-8 "He became the OC cause JG sucked at his own system and produced more than JG did in one year of the latter's offense in this cluster _".
 

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Well if you read my post I also take out the Denver game because it was an anolomy. That drops us to middle of the pack. One great offensive performance does not count when it's was never repeated. I wish it was. Read your link... It moves us out of the top 10.

The problems are deeper than the defense. Maybe Linehan is the fix.

Lol do you take out saints performance vs us or is ok since they put up 40+ one more time in the last game of the year vs bucs? Its easy to just make games disappear to fit ones argument. I didn't think we looked great on offense either. I used the same argument that our offense was scoring enough and the #s were skewed cause of defense and st scores. I was wrong lol. Just can't take games out to fit a arguement unless you go through all 32 teams or atleast the top 10 offenses and do the same to them also.
 

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Lol do you take out saints performance vs us or is ok since they put up 40+ one more time in the last game of the year vs bucs? Its easy to just make games disappear to fit ones argument. I didn't think we looked great on offense either. I used the same argument that our offense was scoring enough and the #s were skewed cause of defense and st scores. I was wrong lol. Just can't take games out to fit a arguement unless you go through all 32 teams or atleast the top 10 offenses and do the same to them also.

Exactly..................cherry picking games to throw out has to be done across the board, not just for Dallas.
 

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Well if you read my post I also take out the Denver game because it was an anolomy. That drops us to middle of the pack. One great offensive performance does not count when it's was never repeated. I wish it was. Read your link... It moves us out of the top 10.

The problems are deeper than the defense. Maybe Linehan is the fix.

It would drop us to around 11 or 12. Still not bad especially considering you are taking the best offensive performance all year.
 

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Doesn't prove anything, because OL play is also contingent on play-calling and what your attempting to do. Maybe, just maybe the OL looked better because they had a guy that has actually coached a full offense before call plays with his zone-blocking scheme. The OL has always been Garrett's 'scapegoat', besides the Assistant Coach at the particular time, since he's been here.

LOL Reach much? Pass blocking was the greatest improvement, better footwork and balance was most evident.
 
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