News: DMN: Sherrington: If the Cowboys were to trade a RB, this is when I think it'd happen

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That's not what Garrett and Linehan like about Dunbar. He adds another dimension to the playbook with his outside runs. But they love the guy's ability to line up in the R or even the S, X and Z as well. He can catch the ball and is a matchup nightmare lined up as a receiver anywhere. The only person close to him might be EE and he won't have the speed, quicks or slipperiness.

Agreed to a point but the guy just can't stay on the field. He's small and fragile. Hard to make him a big part of any game plan.
 

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no need to go into season with Elliott, McFadden and Morris, either.


please tell us why ?
 

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Morris said he’s “not real sure” about the exact role he will play in this offense, but said he will be prepared for whatever the coaches throw his way.

Morris signed his two-year, $3.5 million deal in March, long before the Cowboys decided to draft Elliott in the first round. But instead of being bitter about the move, Morris said he took the opposite approach.

“I was like, ‘I’m going to get better,’” Morris said of adding Elliott. “Competition only makes us all better. We’ve been out there competing and having fun. You can’t forget to have fun. Still a lot to learn and take in.”

His new position coach sounded rather pleased to hear Morris say he’s striving to become more complete.

“I think we’re all trying to be complete backs. We always want to get better,” Cowboys running backs coach Gary Brown said. “That’s good self-awareness by him. But I still think he’s a good, solid guy. We’re going to keep working at it to get him where he wants to be and where we need him to be, and that’s a complete back.”
 

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Agreed to a point but the guy just can't stay on the field. He's small and fragile. Hard to make him a big part of any game plan.

If he gets another significant injury then others will bypass him and he will pass into our history. Until then they will work as if he is still a part of the team.
 

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This running group projects potential, in a similar way that the offensive 'uglies' dominate view. They will be great behind this line. Another reason to keep Leary and potentials in place.
 

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behind this OL Trent Richardson could get 1000 yards

If the OL was as good as you say, Romo wouldn't have had his collarbone broken twice last season. You don't give enough credit to McFadden and too much to the OL. If the OL could make any runner a 1000 year guy they wouldn't have wasted the 4th overall pick on a RB.
 

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Jerry Jones has coveted McFadden ever since he was a Razorback. Jerry couldn't tough him at the time of McFadden's draft so that's why we had the next best thing in his eyes, Felix Jones. Now that Jerry finally has his favorite Warthog on his team after all these years, he will not be treated like just any other player. McFadden will retire a Cowboy and the only reason that would change is if McFadden asked for too much money and that hasn't been an issue. It's not a good football move but we are talking about Jerry Jones here.

I think people believe Jerry covets Razorbacks. That has never been the case while he has been owner.

If he felt about McFadden like you believe he does, he would never have allowed Elliott to be drafted. If Jerry ends up in a situation where he has to choose three out of four backs (Dunbar again on PUP). All things being equal, he will choose the three who are all under contract past this season, especially if he can get a draft pick in the process.

Business before loyalties.

Of course, it's probably a moot point since someone will likely get hurt.
 

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Keep Jackson and Dunbar on PS. ?

Those RBs like to get hurt......

Dunbar is not eligible for PS. Jackson likely will depend on how well he plays. I'd rather cut one of the vets if it's a risk to try to get Jackson to the PS. Of course, he is a sixth-round pick, so he might not even contend for a spot.
 

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If the OL was as good as you say, Romo wouldn't have had his collarbone broken twice last season. You don't give enough credit to McFadden and too much to the OL. If the OL could make any runner a 1000 year guy they wouldn't have wasted the 4th overall pick on a RB.

Romo broke his collarbone because he didn't throw the ball when he should have....he pulled it down, lost the grip and fell on it ........all with 0 help from a RB or TE..........bad play design but Brady throws it in under 2 secs with no blocking

average- noun- Darren McFadden, easily replaceable, mediocre
 

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And don't you think Jerry Jones knows this too and will be loyal to his fellow Arkansas Razorback? I just don't see Jerry trading him away after the season he had last year.

Agreed, everyone is anxious to count him out. Personally I think Mcfadden starts game 1 if hes not injured, and Elliott takes over the lead role shortly after.
 

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I think the point is that McFadden is the only one who has any trade value, and he really is the worst fit for this system because he doesn't read zone blocking well. We had to adjust to more man blocking for him last year.

I think whether we try to trade him will depend on Morris and Darius Jackson. If Elliott, McFadden, Morris and Jackson all look capable, then I don't think we can carry all four and McFadden again has the most trade value after averaging 4.6 yards and going over 1,000. (On top of this, I think we're likely to have Dunbar on PUP at the start of the season.)

Now, depending on what Jackson shows, he could end up on the practice squad with us carrying Elliott, McFadden and Morris, then we could make a decision when Dunbar is ready to come off PUP who to try to trade before the trade deadline. Needs might open up at that point on other teams (or it's possible an injury here could lead to us keeping them all).

McFadden and Dunbar will be free agents next year, so it makes sense to look at their trade value if all of the backs are healthy and performing well.

Ding-ding-ding... We have a winner
Dmac has the most trade value and is worst fit for the system
If someone else steps up he will be the odd man out
 

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Romo broke his collarbone because he didn't throw the ball when he should have....he pulled it down, lost the grip and fell on it ........all with 0 help from a RB or TE..........bad play design but Brady throws it in under 2 secs with no blocking

average- noun- Darren McFadden, easily replaceable, mediocre

So you think we are still screwed because you don't think much of Romo or our TEs and think our play design is bad.

If McFadden was so easily replaceable then why did they use a 4th overall pick to do it? You're reality seems to be more an more delusional the more you talk.
 

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I think people believe Jerry covets Razorbacks. That has never been the case while he has been owner.

If he felt about McFadden like you believe he does, he would never have allowed Elliott to be drafted. If Jerry ends up in a situation where he has to choose three out of four backs (Dunbar again on PUP). All things being equal, he will choose the three who are all under contract past this season, especially if he can get a draft pick in the process.

Business before loyalties.

Of course, it's probably a moot point since someone will likely get hurt.

If you aren't aware of how much Jerry loves him some Arkansas Razorbacks then I can't help you. That was his connection to Jimmy Johnson for crying out loud! You need help but it won't be coming from me.
 

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If you aren't aware of how much Jerry loves him some Arkansas Razorbacks then I can't help you. That was his connection to Jimmy Johnson for crying out loud! You need help but it won't be coming from me.

And exactly how many Razorbacks have the Cowboys drafted since Jones became owner in 1989?

If you don't know the answer to that one, it's one: Felix Jones in 2008. Jerry just having to have players from his alma mater is a myth. That doesn't mean he doesn't love his alma mater, just that he is and always has been a businessman first. If Jerry just had to have Razorbacks on this team, he's had plenty of opportunities to get them (he could have drafted Brandon Allen over Dak Prescott), but he hasn't done it.

Now, he coveted McFadden, just like he has coveted players from other college teams (see Johnny Manziel), but he didn't covet him enough to not draft his replacement as starter. If McFadden remains on this team, it will because the team sees him as the best backup option to Elliott, not because of some blind love Jerry has for Razorbacks.

If you can't see that, I can't help you.
 

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Morris and Leary to Vikings for AD

Run a few series a game with Dak in the bone
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And exactly how many Razorbacks have the Cowboys drafted since Jones became owner in 1989?

If you don't know the answer to that one, it's one: Felix Jones in 2008. Jerry just having to have players from his alma mater is a myth. That doesn't mean he doesn't love his alma mater, just that he is and always has been a businessman first. If Jerry just had to have Razorbacks on this team, he's had plenty of opportunities to get them (he could have drafted Brandon Allen over Dak Prescott), but he hasn't done it.

Now, he coveted McFadden, just like he has coveted players from other college teams (see Johnny Manziel), but he didn't covet him enough to not draft his replacement as starter. If McFadden remains on this team, it will because the team sees him as the best backup option to Elliott, not because of some blind love Jerry has for Razorbacks.

If you can't see that, I can't help you.

I never said Jerry had to have exclusively Razorbacks on this team, that's a ridiculous notation and you are foolish to twist my words and suggest it. You are making an even bigger fool of yourself by quizzing me on the Razorback's Jerry has draft because it's a point I've already pointed out. I specifically said Jerry coveted one particular Razorback(Darren McFadden) and when he couldn't touch him, he drafted the next best thing(Felix Jones) in his eyes. There is no, "if McFadden remains", he IS staying. I think you know this and so you are making excuses for losing the argument. Being the best option for Elliott is of course the best reason to keeping him and the original point I was making but It doesn't hurt that that Jerry and DMac are both Razorbacks.
 

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So you think we are still screwed because you don't think much of Romo or our TEs and think our play design is bad.

If McFadden was so easily replaceable then why did they use a 4th overall pick to do it? You're reality seems to be more an more delusional the more you talk.

you are the one that made the idiotic statement that Romo got hurt because the OL wasn't that good

I tried to explain why Romo got hurt against PHI but you don't seem to understand football

I'll take the OL and you can have McFadden
 

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you are the one that made the idiotic statement that Romo got hurt because the OL wasn't that good

I tried to explain why Romo got hurt against PHI but you don't seem to understand football

I'll take the OL and you can have McFadden

There you go exaggerating again. God bless your heart for trying, now let's get you some help. I never said the OL "wasn't that good". I did however suggest they had a hand in getting Romo hurt. We do have an elite OL but they are not the sole reason the running game works in Dallas. You don't seem to appreciate the man carrying the rock, especially when that man is Darren McFadden. That's okay, you're entitled to your opinion.
 
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