News: DMN: Stephen Jones: Weeden has arm to go downfield; Cowboys should've adjusted

[foofighters]

If the falcons had played us tight in the first half we would not have scored 10 points,Garrett is too stubborn in his ways to change a game plan.

I keep trying to tell this to the Weeden supporters but they won't listen.

 

[bark]

Amazing what a difference a week makes in this league.
Just a few short days ago our coaching staff schooled the chipster so bad he was headed back to college on a rail.

 

[foofighters]

Why Weeden has a big arm look at any film of him at OSU or scouting reports Weeden has the arm. His decision making has been question and rightfully so. His 2nd qrt int he went to his right tried to throw without being able to square up for the throw and got picked, It was a situation where he needed to throw it away. But never in his career has he been afraid to throw deep balls or lacked that ability

He had Witten open on the play. He choked. The ball sailed on him because he was tentative on the throw. He had time to at least get under control and make the throw. He was panicking. It's not the only play that he panicked.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Why Weeden has a big arm look at any film of him at OSU or scouting reports Weeden has the arm. His decision making has been question and rightfully so. His 2nd qrt int he went to his right tried to throw without being able to square up for the throw and got picked, It was a situation where he needed to throw it away. But never in his career has he been afraid to throw deep balls or lacked that ability

If you have the arm and not the smarts it doesn't matter. Either way you can't throw the ball down the field. I don't think he has the confidence to do any more than he did yesterday.

 

[PAINFROMUKRAINE]

Thank you Stephen for the great analysis. Please sit JG down and advise him that he needs to play to win and not play to stay close. JG has a new contract and is fat, dumb, and happy. No pressure at all. Next time sign your HC to a short term extension unless he has a few rings on his fingers.

 

[Deep_South]

According to Sturm, the throw to Witten that was intercepted was impromptu. The play was actually designed to go downfield to Street or Williams, but the blocking broke down and he was flushed from the pocket. It was just a bad decision, and really had nothing to do with him throwing a deep route.

 

[Doomsday101]

If you have the arm and not the smarts it doesn't matter. Either way you can't throw the ball down the field. I don't think he has the confidence to do any more than he did yesterday.

And coaches should not tell him that he needs to take some shots down field expect on the 2nd play of the game? In which we 15 yarder because CB grabbed facemake of Williams. Outside of that all of a sudden Weeden was scared? OK

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Why Weeden has a big arm look at any film of him at OSU or scouting reports Weeden has the arm. His decision making has been question and rightfully so. His 2nd qrt int he went to his right tried to throw without being able to square up for the throw and got picked, It was a situation where he needed to throw it away. But never in his career has he been afraid to throw deep balls or lacked that ability

Agreed.

If the Falcons are sitting on the run on first down, then why not take a shot on "stop & go" route or something similar?

After running so many times on first down, there had to be something there via the pass in the second half.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

And coaches should not tell him that he needs to take some shots down field expect on the 2nd play of the game? In which we 15 yarder because CB grabbed facemake of Williams. Outside of that all of a sudden Weeden was scared? OK

Hu?

 

[Doomsday101]

According to Sturm, the throw to Witten that was intercepted was impromptu. The play was actually designed to go downfield to Street or Williams, but the blocking broke down and he was flushed from the pocket. It was just a bad decision, and really had nothing to do with him throwing a deep route.

I agree the play broke down and Weeden made a poor decision, that was on Brandon, in those situation he need to throw the ball away, he is outside the pocket all he has to do is get in past line of scrimmage

 

[xwalker]

I really don't buy this notion that the Cowboys tailored their game to dink and dunk. There were receivers running deep routes. The question is were they getting enough separation in their routes or does Weeden not trust his arm. Unfortunately, the only way to answer that question is to look at the tape...which I have neither the access, time or motivation to do.

The receivers running 10+ yard routes can't get open when Weeden has already thrown the ball to the first player to reach 3 yards (Dunbar, Witten, Beasley).

 

[xwalker]

Why Weeden has a big arm look at any film of him at OSU or scouting reports Weeden has the arm. His decision making has been question and rightfully so. His 2nd qrt int he went to his right tried to throw without being able to square up for the throw and got picked, It was a situation where he needed to throw it away. But never in his career has he been afraid to throw deep balls or lacked that ability

That over throw to Witten at about 20 yards was terrible.

 

[superonyx]

Because Weeden still has to go to the sideline and coaches can tell him. After the game is not going to help. Your telling me that the coaches could not tell Brandon "hey alt defense is moving up you need to test them deep" I agree plays have option and they also work on a game plan through out the week and coaches still have the authority to tell any player they need to change something within the game.

How do you know they didn't?

 

[Doomsday101]

Hu?

You say he was scared about throwing deep yet 2nd play of the game he went deep so this notion he was unwilling or scared to throw deep is BS. If coaches feel he needs to be getting the ball down the field they had several min as Alt ran the ball down our throat to tell him that we need you to take some shot down the field.

 

[mattjames2010]

It doesn't matter that he has a big arm, it's the accuracy that is the issue. Nothing but bad will happen if Weeden starts going deep, he simply just can't do it consistently enough to keep drives going.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Yep.

Weeden was not the same after he threw the INT. He was gun shy and you could tell he was determined not to make another mistake to lose the game. To be fair-- the offense did put up 28 points at home, and that should get you the W most days.

IMO-- the defense made zero big plays in the game, and absolutely cratered in the 2nd half. Our offense struggled-- but the D struggled more overall.

I completely agree with this. Two major factors here.....1) Weeden got spooked after throwing the INT and it affected his play thereafter. 2) The dfense got worn out and were no longer able to get pressure, stop their pounding run game or make a big play.

 

[xwalker]

Until someone sees the all 22 that will remain a question. On the few shots we saw from behind the QB it didn't look like there was much separation, and i'm sure Weeden was snake bit from his int, and overthrow of Witten

On most plays the All-22 is not even needed. Weeden had already dumped the ball off short before those 10+ yard routes could develop.

 

[Doomsday101]

That over throw to Witten at about 20 yards was terrible.

yes it was a poor throw, Alt was in a zone and Weeden was unable to drop in to Witten. Lucky the hit Witten took was not worse. So now you do not throw any thing deep because on that play he did not drop it in? hell if you did that to every QB who threw a high ball you would not have any QB throwing deeper passes.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

You say he was scared about throwing deep yet 2nd play of the game he went deep so this notion he was unwilling or scared to throw deep is BS. If coaches feel he needs to be getting the ball down the field they had several min as Alt ran the ball down our throat to tell him that we need you to take some shot down the field.

He went down field three times all game. That was it. Could that really be the only times any one was open? He was either scared or the coaches told him not to. That's all I am saying.

 

[Doomsday101]

I completely agree with this. Two major factors here.....1) Weeden got spooked after throwing the INT and it affected his play thereafter. 2) The dfense got worn out and were no longer able to get pressure, stop their pounding run game or make a big play.

How did he get spooked? He led the team the very next series to a TD. The pass he threw was not a deep ball it was a poor decision but not deep so now a shorter pass got him spooked?