DMN:The Power struggle of Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett

[J-DOG]

This is part of my reasoning why I dont want Phillips as head coach. A head coach has to be a strong individual. Everything you just described Wade as implies the opposite.

You dont worry abour your assistants and what power they have. You're the HEAD coach. You cant let things like that effect how you run your team.

Agree.
The head coach needs to be the guy who holds players accountable.
I don't see Wade as a very demanding coach.
His first year was successful because the team still had the strong work ethic that Parcells instilled in them but Wade was like a breath of fresh air compared to Parcells. The team thrived in that first season because Wade and Garrett were not nearly as conservative as Parcells.
But as time goes by...Wade's lack of holding players accountable has hurt this team as now the inmates are running the asylum. This team has a lot of talent and to not make the playoffs should have cost Wade his job.

 

[jterrell]

So now the media can't even agree who to bash next.

Not sure which nasty story is supposed to be true....

I am fairly certain Garrett wasn't all that happy with Tony Romo, T.O. and others went to the media with complaints about the offense. Same way Wade wasn't too thrilled TNew had his shots at the defensive staff. Amazingly Wade didn't cut TNew... I mean we are supposed to cut guys for complaining right?
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... questioned the scheme and said the offense needed to make adjustments when defenses do.

"They exposed us," ... said of the Eagles. "It's something that we do fundamentally offensively, and so give them credit."

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So who said that? Owens????
Owens lovechild Crayton????

Try Tony Romo.

Can't believe we haven't cut him yet.

 

[Prossman]

Do you realise if jerry canned wade and garrett tomorrowand hired Mike shanahan, all this media circus would instantly end. Mike loves players like T O and Romo, but would hold everyone accountable. Players don't Jack with shanahan, just ask holland. Prossman

 

[Doomsday]

Just further evidence that Wade has no business being a head coach. He is in way over his head and everyone knows it.

 

[Alexander]

Do you realise if jerry canned wade and garrett tomorrowand hired Mike shanahan, all this media circus would instantly end. Mike loves players like T O and Romo, but would hold everyone accountable. Players don't Jack with shanahan, just ask holland. Prossman

It is too late to hire Shanahan.

Or anyone else for that matter.

 

[Alexander]

Just further evidence that Wade has no business being a head coach. He is in way over his head and everyone knows it.

Does everyone include our owner?

 

[Royal Laegotti]

5:13 PM Fri, Feb 06, 2009 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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Matt Mosley pens a column for ESPN that has this passage:

One of the things that has frustrated [Wade] Phillips to no end is the fact that he basically has no authority over offensive coordinator Jason Garrett. When Jones made Garrett the highest-paid assistant in the NFL, he unwittingly divided his coaching staff. I'm told by sources close to Phillips that he was bothered by the Terrell Owens-related drama in the locker room, but felt as if he had to let Garrett handle the situation.

I would respectfully disagree. From what I've been told, Garrett doesn't like the fact that Terrell Owens has created some of this locker room drama. But Garrett doesn't want to go over Phillips' head.

Garrett is a chain-of-command type of guy, so he expected Phillips to do some of the police work regarding any problems with the team. He is, after all, the head coach.

Phillips shouldn't expect Garrett to police the players. That's Phillips' job. That's why he's the head coach. When players get fined, (yeah it's only $100) it's Phillips who sets the fine totals, not Garrett.

If a player gets in trouble they go to Phillips, not Garrett. That's not because Garrett isn't capable of fining players, but it's Phillips' job.

If Phillips thought Garrett was supposed to police the players, especially the offensive ones, because the offensive coordinator gets a $3 million a year salary, then he needs an attitude readjustment.

Ed Werder has such a good imagination, so good that even the Cowboys coaches believe his lies!

 

[DuaneThomas71]

Ed Werder has such a good imagination, so good that even the Cowboys coaches believe his lies!

Calvin Watkins also claimed that he'd been told that the Cowboys planes departed late because players were arriving late, and that was shown to be completely false.

Ed Werder and Calvin Watkins either both have great imaginations or terrible sources. In Werder's case, it was a combination of "desperation sources" (people who work for ESPN serving in that role) and pressure from the network to catalyze a year ending draw.

In Watkins' case, I suspect it's really poor copycat journalism and a lack of professionalism.

 

[Royal Laegotti]

Calvin Watkins also claimed that he'd been told that the Cowboys planes departed late because players were arriving late, and that was shown to be completely false.

Ed Werder and Calvin Watkins either both have great imaginations or terrible sources. In Werder's case, it was a combination of "desperation sources" (people who work for ESPN serving in that role) and pressure from the network to catalyze a year ending draw.

In Watkins' case, I suspect it's really poor copycat journalism and a lack of professionalism.

You make some good points and in the other thread to. But there's still a stench coming from Big D! I think I know what it is:

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Calvin Watkins also claimed that he'd been told that the Cowboys planes departed late because players were arriving late, and that was shown to be completely false.

Ed Werder and Calvin Watkins either both have great imaginations or terrible sources. In Werder's case, it was a combination of "desperation sources" (people who work for ESPN serving in that role) and pressure from the network to catalyze a year ending draw.

In Watkins' case, I suspect it's really poor copycat journalism and a lack of professionalism.

The notion that Garrett didn't want to go over Phillips' head is rediculous because as the Assistant Head Coach, he should be communicating with Phillips and handling the offense. That's especially true since by the time the T.O. stuff came to a boil, Phillips was entrenched in game planning and coordinating the defense. Phillips already had to do his job and Stewart's, so where was Garrett to recognize this and stp up to handle his offensive players, as an Offensive coordinsto, and especially an Assistant Head Coach, should?

 

[28 Joker]

Good point.

I dont think wade or anyone else had a single complaint about our offense when we were 3-0, I certainly didnt see the fire garret cry everyone has now heading into that washington game.

Yet that is the game owens threw garrett and romo under the bus. And what was the response from the head coach, support the malcontent. Probably because the owner told him too.

Wades motto.

Trust, Loyalty and common purpose.

It would probably help if he actually had a backbone and lived up to those things.

That Washington game was one of Garrett's best gameplans, too. The Commanders had to deal with Marion Barber. Garrett was getting the ball out of Romo's hand faster and still taking his shots down the field.

I'm beggining to think it would be best to hand this team to Jason Garrett right now. The situation is really, really bad, like you know. It's worse than I thought, and I thought it was really bad.

What good is a lame duck coach? If you want Garrett running the team in 2010, just do it now. The team would miss Phillips' defensive mind, but this team is totally screwed up. It needs one voice and one leader.

I agree with you. The buck stops with Wade Phillips. Saying that he "didn't want to step on Garrett's toes" is really weak if that is indeed true. Mosley has good connections, and he reported this in his blog. I tend to believe him based on Phillips not asserting himself, in regards to helping Garrett manage the field position in some of the games the Cowboys lost. For a head coach to just stand there and do nothing, is unacceptable. Phillips needs to go to assertiveness class 101.

The Cowboys need a head coach that will stand up to Jerry Jones and put him in his place. This guy needs to be willing to get fired on his principles. I think Garrett was ready to walk now. If Phillips wouldn't assert himself on the field by helping Garrett manage some field position, he probably isn't asserting himself to the owner.

 

[theogt]

That Washington game was one of Garrett's best gameplans, too. The Commanders had to deal with Marion Barber. Garrett was getting the ball out of Romo's hand faster and still taking his shots down the field.

I'm beggining to think it would be best to hand this team to Jason Garrett right now. The situation is really, really bad, like you know. It's worse than I thought, and I thought it was really bad.

What good is a lame duck coach? If you want Garrett running the team in 2010, just do it now. The team would miss Phillips' defensive mind, but this team is totally screwed up. It needs one voice and one leader.

I agree with you. The buck stops with Wade Phillips. Saying that he "didn't want to step on Garrett's toes" is really weak if that is indeed true. Mosley has good connections, and he reported this in his blog. I tend to believe him, based on Phillips not asserting himself in regards to helping Garrett manage the field position, in some of the games the Cowboys lost.

The Cowboys need a head coach that will stand up to Jerry Jones and put him in his place. This guy needs to be willing to get fired on his principles. I think Garrett was ready to walk now. If Phillips wouldn't assert himself on the field by helping Garrett manage some field position, he probably isn't asserting himself to the owner.

Seriously? Hand the team to a guy that needs a babysitter because he can't even run the offense?

That makes sense.

 

[28 Joker]

Seriously? Hand the team to a guy that needs a babysitter because he can't even run the offense?

That makes sense.

theogt,


It isn't going to happen, anyway. Garrett has room to grow for sure, but he can do it. I'm sure he will put some experienced coaches on offense around him. He lost that support when Sparano left. LG and a 35+ year old WR getting close to 9.0 pass attempts per game didn't help him at all. Remember, he called the plays and ran the passing game in 2007. He just didn't get stupid.

Plug LG in the draft with a high round pick and pray Adams doesn't "lose it" or get hurt again.

Start Austin and Williams at WR.

Replace Crayton with Hurd and draft Crayton's replacement in the draft.

Run the football with those three backs, especially Barber and Felix.

Throw it to Witten and Bennett and Felix.

Yeah, I think Garrett can do it. He has the backbone to lead the team, and when he gets the reigns, his power increase.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Yeah, I think Garrett can do it. He has the backbone to lead the team, and when he gets the reigns, his power increase.

Bringing in Reeves is proof that Garrett can't. In 2007 he has Sporano and the offense played well. In 2008 he had no one and his offense tanked. In 2009 the plan was to give him Reeves... Sorry, Garrett can't even lead his own offense let alone the team.

 

[Doomsday]

Does everyone include our owner?

I think Jerry does realize Wade is in over his head but for whatever reason he is givng Wade another year. I think Dan Reeves coming in here to help out is a good sign that Jerry knows Wade needs help.

A leopard doesnt change its stripes after over 30 years, Wade is the same coach he always has been.

 

[MONT17]

This is literally the opposite of a power struggle.

that picture made my weekend!

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

I wish JG was gone.....

Bring in Martz and watch Felix Jones become Marshall faulk and the greatest show on turf return.

Romo is a more mobile Kurt Warner. Similar arm strength and release.

 

[cowboyjoe]

ok Hostile or DC i trust you guys, so what is really going on with wade and jason garrett, is it a power struggle or is jason expecting wade to discipline the players since he is the head coach, and good ole wade doesnt, since we all know wade is coach cupcake,

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I still think Garrett leaks this stuff about how much better he'd do without Wade holding him back to his media buddies. I've even heard Galloway say that Garrett believes this kind of thing on his show, though in fairness he did start ripping RJ later in the year.

But Mosley's first tidbit about this story was the first you've ever heard from "Wade's side". You hear it about Garrett all the time. Not a coincidence, I don't think.

But yes, Garrett spends tons of time with his side of the ball when Wade can't even be there. So it's absurd to think that RJ is somehow powerless to do anything to his players.

And I ask again, why is it that all these stories come from the offensive side of the ball? Many, many players on defense had their best years ever this year. Meanwhile, almost the entire offense went backwards this year.

And yet it's all the head coach's fault and not the coordinator's?

 

[Oh_Canada]

That Washington game was one of Garrett's best gameplans, too. The Commanders had to deal with Marion Barber. Garrett was getting the ball out of Romo's hand faster and still taking his shots down the field.

I'm beggining to think it would be best to hand this team to Jason Garrett right now. The situation is really, really bad, like you know. It's worse than I thought, and I thought it was really bad.

What good is a lame duck coach? If you want Garrett running the team in 2010, just do it now. The team would miss Phillips' defensive mind, but this team is totally screwed up. It needs one voice and one leader.

I agree with you. The buck stops with Wade Phillips. Saying that he "didn't want to step on Garrett's toes" is really weak if that is indeed true. Mosley has good connections, and he reported this in his blog. I tend to believe him based on Phillips not asserting himself, in regards to helping Garrett manage the field position in some of the games the Cowboys lost. For a head coach to just stand there and do nothing, is unacceptable. Phillips needs to go to assertiveness class 101.

The Cowboys need a head coach that will stand up to Jerry Jones and put him in his place. This guy needs to be willing to get fired on his principles. I think Garrett was ready to walk now. If Phillips wouldn't assert himself on the field by helping Garrett manage some field position, he probably isn't asserting himself to the owner.

I agree....this is ridiculous.

Wade might be a nice guy, but he is a nice guy with no balls.....and nice guys with no balls don't usually make for great head coaches in the NFL.