Do people realize

[blindzebra]

The Garrett fanboys (all 3 of them) will ignore this fact like the plague.

We don't ignore it we know it is bull ****.

 

[xwalker]

Fair enough. I just keep hearing he was at home, not in the NFL....??? But, If that's right, my apologies...

Point is. These other teams....they go through injuries too, And, Unless it's at the QB position....should not be used as any kind of leverage or anything to make people "understand" and accept losing.

No. Injuries have been going on a long long time now.....it's part of the NFL LANDSCSPE.....and the smart GMs and franchise and coaches.......handle it better then the ....DUMB ones....

The Cowboys have had too many injuries at the same positions.

No team is prepared for all of the injuries that the Cowboys have had on the DLine. Ratliff, Spencer, Crawford and Bass are out. They also lost Josh Brent from last year. Hatcher and Ware are injured. They only have 2 healthy players that were in training camp, Selvie and Hayden.

LB has not been much better. In the 2nd half of the Packers game, they had Wilber, Holloman and Lawrence. Wilber is the wily veteran of that group and the Packers game was his 5th ever start, not to mention that he was a DE in the 1st half of the season. Holloman had just returned from missing about 1/2 of the season due to injury. Lawrence is UDFA that is primarily a special teams player and was lost at LB.

Last season they had a similar problem on OL. They played most of the season with the 4th option at Center and he was acquired after training camp. Both Guards were playing through injures for most of the season. The top player, LT Smith even missed 2 games.

 

[blindzebra]

The Cowboys have had too many injuries at the same positions.

No team is prepared for all of the injuries that the Cowboys have had on the DLine. Ratliff, Spencer, Crawford and Bass are out. They also lost Josh Brent from last year. Hatcher and Ware are injured. They only have 2 healthy players that were in training camp, Selvie and Hayden.

LB has not been much better. In the 2nd half of the Packers game, they had Wilber, Holloman and Lawrence. Wilber is the wily veteran of that group and the Packers game was his 5th ever start, not to mention that he was a DE in the 1st half of the season. Holloman had just returned from missing about 1/2 of the season due to injury. Lawrence is UDFA that is primarily a special teams player and was lost at LB.

Last season they had a similar problem on OL. They played most of the season with the 4th option at Center and he was acquired after training camp. Both Guards were playing through injures for most of the season. The top player, LT Smith even missed 2 games.

How dare you speak logically and honestly about the situation.

If I am not mistaken we have played 26 different players in our front 7.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Dallas is in position to control it's own destiny vs Philly, what does that mean, the Final Score was 44-6 last time controlling our own destiny vs the Eagles happened.

Jerry Jones is probably already setting Tee times.

 

[Beast_from_East]

How dare you speak logically and honestly about the situation.

If I am not mistaken we have played 26 different players in our front 7.

More excuses...............when will they stop?

 

[CowboyFan4Eva]

The Cowboys have had too many injuries at the same positions.

No team is prepared for all of the injuries that the Cowboys have had on the DLine. Ratliff, Spencer, Crawford and Bass are out. They also lost Josh Brent from last year. Hatcher and Ware are injured. They only have 2 healthy players that were in training camp, Selvie and Hayden.

LB has not been much better. In the 2nd half of the Packers game, they had Wilber, Holloman and Lawrence. Wilber is the wily veteran of that group and the Packers game was his 5th ever start, not to mention that he was a DE in the 1st half of the season. Holloman had just returned from missing about 1/2 of the season due to injury. Lawrence is UDFA that is primarily a special teams player and was lost at LB.

Last season they had a similar problem on OL. They played most of the season with the 4th option at Center and he was acquired after training camp. Both Guards were playing through injures for most of the season. The top player, LT Smith even missed 2 games.

Right. But, after some marquee good football players. How much if a difference is there between, a backup at 2nd string, or a backup at 3 string....... ??

I dunno. I hear ya, I get it......i do. We have had our share of freaking Hamstrings.........what is it? Bad trainers, not good conditioning coach, Guys quitting on a Losing situation?

So it was the OL last year, before that it was Romo going through growing pains,, before that it was bad drafting, before that it was salary cap hell....this year it's the defense, what is it going to be next year. In The 18 or 19th year???

What I'm saying , organizations, should expect injuries. Period. And, I guess. , "the bad luck fairy" is to explain for of all this??? Yeah, that's it, the bad luck fairy..................instead of, ohhhh i dont know, a meddling crazy al Davis like owner, Or a brand new fresh HC,......that's never been a HC anywhere else???? Or a system that can't produce anything but. 8-8.

 

[Miller]

Tell me when they have to play 26 different players in their front 7 and we will see if they stay a top team.

They lost every top skill person they've had at one point. This is the same team that used to play Troy Brown at DB because of injuries in other years. Please stop. I guess GB winning a SB with the most injuries doesn't matter either. As I said above we had the same record with the starters like Lee and others playing. But that is ignored. As for the D line. Maybe Jerry and Jason should have drafted Dline instead of TE and WR. After all most Garrett fans say he is running drafts, picking coaches, etc

The reality is that injuries are a big part of the NFL and preparing for it us what separates good teams from bad teams.

 

[blindzebra]

They lost every top skill person they've had at one point. This is the same team that used to play Troy Brown at DB because of injuries in other years. Please stop. I guess GB winning a SB with the most injuries doesn't matter either. As I said above we had the same record with the starters like Lee and others playing. But that is ignored. As for the D line. Maybe Jerry and Jason should have drafted Dline instead of TE and WR. After all most Garrett fans say he is running drafts, picking coaches, etc

The reality is that injuries are a big part of the NFL and preparing for it us what separates good teams from bad teams.

Prepare for 4 season ending injuries at the same 2 spots? Really? We lost starters and back ups at two spots. Had an injury to the back up to the back up and had the other two spots miss games as well.

By your argument we'd have needed to keep 18 DL on the 53 to be prepared.

 

[Doomsay]

Just don't go out like 30yardslant, k?

LOL yikes

 

[Beast_from_East]

Another Blindzebra homer thread. All I can do is laugh.

Apparently we are the only team in the NFL to have injuries...................LOL.............poor Garrett just cant break 500 in almost 4 seasons of coaching because our team is just decimated by injuries every year.

Poor Garret..............his greatness would be showing and we would be dropping 50 burgers on everybody week in and week out if not for those dam injuries...............HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

 

[EvilJerry88]

The eagles have players on IR.

 

[Aven8]

The injuries are an excuse. Last time I checked Foles was the backup, correct?

 

[birdwells1]

To show how bad the regular offense is, on the 3 biggest plays of last weeks game, Tony Romo's adlibing talents is what allowed them to happen. On the td pass to Dez the original design of the play didn't get the touchdown it wasn't until the play broke down that Dez got open. The same could be said for the 51 yard completion to Williams and the td pass to Murray.

The problem I have with Garrett is he's suppose to be this offensive genius but our offense looks so stagnant at times and it lacks imagination. It seems as though he goes into the game and says "well there are not going to allow this, so we'll take that", that strategy is fine unless what they're giving is 3 yard outs to Witten. Other successful offensive teams find ways to get their top wr the ball or if he's double make them pay by exploiting the single covered wr, somebody other than Dez should be breaking the 100 yard mark each game that they double him.

When I see Denver's offense I see them run pick plays to get their wrs open, I rarely see pick plays run by the Cowboys. I think the oline play has gotten better these last few weeks and going into this season the line was suppose to be what held them back, so what gives?

 

[Apollo Creed]

This has been arguably the worst division in football for roughly 2 years now.

He has a 1-20 record against teams with a winning record.

He's had a franchise QB the entire time.

Yet at this point he cant wear Wade Phillips jock strap. I've never understood the infatuation and outside a handful of guys on here and Jerry Jones, no one views him as the second coming - he's just an average coordinator that happened to have some connections.

We're on pace for a 3rd straight 8-8 season and I don't know about you but I hate mediocrity, if we were the Cleveland Browns I could understand the high fiving about being 'relevant' and competitive - but let's never forget, WE'RE THE DALLAS COWBOYS I expect titles, not moral victories.

 

[khiladi]

To show how bad the regular offense is, on the 3 biggest plays of last weeks game, Tony Romo's adlibing talents is what allowed them to happen. On the td pass to Dez the original design of the play didn't get the touchdown it wasn't until the play broke down that Dez got open. The same could be said for the 51 yard completion to Williams and the td pass to Murray.

The problem I have with Garrett is he's suppose to be this offensive genius but our offense looks so stagnant at times and it lacks imagination. It seems as though he goes into the game and says "well there are not going to allow this, so we'll take that", that strategy is fine unless what they're giving is 3 yard outs to Witten. Other successful offensive teams find ways to get their top wr the ball or if he's double make them pay by exploiting the single covered wr, somebody other than Dez should be breaking the 100 yard mark each game that they double him.

When I see Denver's offense I see them run pick plays to get their wrs open, I rarely see pick plays run by the Cowboys. I think the oline play has gotten better these last few weeks and going into this season the line was suppose to be what held them back, so what gives?

That fort yard run by Murray that set up the TD on 3rd and nine was also a busted plat that was meant to go left. The TD pass, the Commanders had a wide open blitzer, but Tony made a ridiculous move. Don't forget the play calling got us in a 3rd in nine in the first place.

Additionally, we've never found ways to get creative to free up double teams on our number one receiver. RW was suppose to free up TO, then Miles and so on. Now we are in year six with Garrett and he still can't free up his number one WR.

 

[LatinMind]

With the injuries we have had on defense yes they will have deserved it.

Garrett gets criticized because of bad coaching situations he's put the team in. A bad time to punt, a horrible time to go for it on 4th down. Abandoning a run game when its clearly working. the list goes on. HC controls all of that. Icing his own kicker. Who does that kind of stuff? And he's never taking accountability for that. EVER

 

[birdwells1]

That fort yard run by Murray that set up the TD on 3rd and nine was also a busted plat that was meant to go left. The TD pass, the Commanders had a wide open blitzer, but Tony made a ridiculous move. Don't forget the play calling got us in a 3rd in nine in the first place.

Additionally, we've never found ways to get creative to free up double teams on our number one receiver. RW was suppose to free up TO, then Miles and so on. Now we are in year six with Garrett and he still can't free up his number one WR.

I agree, he can't do it by design so he wants to do it by names. I remember the RW trade and the premise was "now that we have RW they'll be afraid to double TO and it will open our offense up". The problem was that defenses still doubled TO and dared RW to beat single coverage and he couldn't, so guess where that leaves you? In the same place you were when Crayton started opposite TO just minus draft picks.

This offense works perfectly against man defense and no double teams (ala Denver), but once teams see that you will kill man defense you'll see them double Dez and take their chances with everyone else. It seems like this offense would work great if it had 2 receivers like Chicago but who has that, heck Chicago didn't even know that they had that.

This team needs an offense that success relies on the scheme not the players, that way when a player goes down there won't be a huge dropoff when the next man up comes in. Just imagine if Dez was to go out, in this scheme who are you going to fear?

 

[Stash]

As I've said repeatedly, injuries are not an argument to keep Jason Garrett. They may be a mitigating circumstance in the presence of a legitimate argument, but they do not, in any way, speak to his quality as a coach. Regardless of the injury situation, after three years, we should have some evidence Garrett is a good coach. We don't. Instead, we have specious game management and a series of highly improbable losses that have kept the Cowboys out of the playoffs.

What's clear as day now is that Garrett should not have been hired in the first place. This was the wrong situation for him. If the Cowboys had been a team in complete rebuilding mode without a franchise quarterback, the Garrett hire might have made sense. He could've grown with them. Unfortunately, the Cowboys weren't that team. Instead, they were a team loaded at the skill positions and fielding the most prolific passer in franchise history in the prime of his career-- a career that's been squandered waiting for Garrett to "figure it out."

That's criminal.

This post is pure awesomeness.

Just had to let you know.

 

[xwalker]

Right. But, after some marquee good football players. How much if a difference is there between, a backup at 2nd string, or a backup at 3 string....... ??

I dunno. I hear ya, I get it......i do. We have had our share of freaking Hamstrings.........what is it? Bad trainers, not good conditioning coach, Guys quitting on a Losing situation?

So it was the OL last year, before that it was Romo going through growing pains,, before that it was bad drafting, before that it was salary cap hell....this year it's the defense, what is it going to be next year. In The 18 or 19th year???

What I'm saying , organizations, should expect injuries. Period. And, I guess. , "the bad luck fairy" is to explain for of all this??? Yeah, that's it, the bad luck fairy..................instead of, ohhhh i dont know, a meddling crazy al Davis like owner, Or a brand new fresh HC,......that's never been a HC anywhere else???? Or a system that can't produce anything but. 8-8.

The OP was about the current coaching and the efffects of injuries. The past 18 years is a different issue.

Many of the past issues have improved since Garrett has been the HC.

Garrett has managed to keep Jerry from making a Joey Galloway or Roy Williams type trade which is something that Wade and Campo couldn't accomplish. Parcells' demand for media attention caused Jerry to sign TO to bring the attention back to Jerry. That has not happened during Garrett's tenure.

The drafting has improved under Garrett as compared to the Wade years.

It's impossible to evaluate Kiffin and the defensive coaches due to the injuries. The offense was better in past years without Callahan involved in the playcalling so it's hard to put too much blame on Garrett in that area.

 

[CyberB0b]

Prepare for 4 season ending injuries at the same 2 spots? Really? We lost starters and back ups at two spots. Had an injury to the back up to the back up and had the other two spots miss games as well.

By your argument we'd have needed to keep 18 DL on the 53 to be prepared.

That tends to happen when you transition from a 3-4 to a 4-3 and go into the season with:

1. Ware - Guy who was hurt all of last year and has been on the decline
2. Hatcher - Guy who has never really carried the load and is over 30
3. Ratliff - Guy who has been hurt for 2+ years and over 30.
4. Spener- Guy who has had one productive year and is approaching 30.

and you don't draft or develop any young players.

Garrett has managed to keep Jerry from making a Joey Galloway or Roy Williams type trade which is something that Wade and Campo couldn't accomplish. Parcells' demand for media attention caused Jerry to sign TO to bring the attention back to Jerry. That has not happened during Garrett's tenure.

Mo Claiborne draft?