Do people realize

[MikeT22]

BP did not always get his way, He wanted Spears over Ware. Ireland argument swayed Jerry view. No doubt Jimmy had more say than any HC this franchised had including Landry who never scouted players that was Gil Brandt job and he and Landry and Tex worked together. Jones is clearly involved good and bad but he is not making the call without major input from scouts and Jason. I'm not spinning a damn thing just sick and tired of fans making claims that good playes we have were someone else but all bust were Jerry.

Parcells had the most power of any HC here since Jimmy. He turned the disaster caused by Jerry, Lacewell and Campo into a playoff caliber team and provided us with a solid foundation going forward.

But, in typical Jerry fashion, when Parcells left, instead of trying to build on what Bill started, Jerry went back to his controlling ways hiring many assistants included Garrett while giving us a proven mediocre HC in Wade Phillips. Only took a few years for it to start falling apart, but instead of trying to fix it with a quality HC, Jerry opted to promote his boy Garrett. And with personnel he went back to listening to guys like Lacewell and Switzer, just like he did in the late 90's -early '00's.

Jerry has made it apparent he'd rather be in control with subpar HC's than giving up any power to a quality HC or personnel men. Shouldn't be any real surprise we are again stumbling around .500. But JJ has always been more interested in power and control than doing whatever it takes to win.

 

[Doomsday101]

You're going off the reservation. The conversation was about the QB position and a post claiming " If Quincy is proof Jones can't evaluate QB talent then Tony Romo and Troy Aikman are proof that he can."

There is nothing that you can point to that can tell me Jerry can evaluate QB talent. The above quote is just a hope and prayer by a fan and is not based on any reality. And Jerry is absolutely is on the hook for QC with whom he over ruled his scouts to draft in the 2nd round. Jerry also attended Henson's workout then asked Aikman for his opinion. Whether you like it or not, Jerry's on the hook for QC, Henson, Stoerner, Banks (who never took a snap), Wright, Hutch, Leaf and Cunningham. Jerry was offered a third round pick for Romo by Sean Payton and he wanted a second rounder. If I recall, the Jets also had an interest in Romo. Had someone given us a second round pick, Romo wouldn't even be here.

Good job by Jerry on over ruling BP on Ware. Now, if he could only sustain a modicum level of success we'd believe he's a quality GM, as opposed to someone who may occasionally find a diamond in the rough like Ware.

I'm not going off any reservation Jerry is on the hook for every QB, only reason why we got many of those QB is we were in cap hell during much of that time we had big contract players like Irvin and Troy go down with contract hits on both of them as well as some other players. Dallas was not in a position to pay out big money for a top QB, Carter deal was agreed on before he was drafted and his pay below what the avg was for that pick. Hutchinson, Leaf, Henson all came with low risk vs the cap that is why they were brought in.

 

[MikeT22]

And as for Ware and Spears, if you remember we had two #1 picks that year. Leading up to the draft Ware had been rated as a late 1st to early 2nd rounder but was rising late. Spears had consistently been rated in the teens of round 1. I did hear Parcells thought there was a better chance at the time that Ware might have a better chance to last til pick 20 than Spears. I also hear he considered Merriman with our first #1 too.

What it came down to was Bill and Jerry wanted both Ware and Spears, it was just a matter of who they felt might last til #20.

 

[neosapien23]

Is blind zebra Jason Garrett's Dad or what??? Garrett blew the Lion's game and the Packer's game. The packers game was inexcusable and he almost cost Dallas the Washington game by again going away from the running game in the 3rd quarter. Now I will say this. Dallas has no business winning this next game or a playoff game with their lack of talent. If this team can somehow summon their inner warrior spirit and beat the Eagles and win a playoff game, then and only then would I be willing to overlook his shortcomings. If Dallas loses to Philly he should be fired when the year is over due to the debacle against Greenbay. That ******** playcalling is unacceptable from a high school head coach much less a head coach on a professional football team.

 

[NJ22]

Do you realize his nonexistent game management skills have singlehandedly cost this team at least 2 games this year and at least 5 or 6 over the last 3 seasons? We would already have the division locked up with at least a coach with basic game management skills.

 

[Doomsday101]

Parcells had the most power of any HC here since Jimmy. He turned the disaster caused by Jerry, Lacewell and Campo into a playoff caliber team and provided us with a solid foundation going forward.

But, in typical Jerry fashion, when Parcells left, instead of trying to build on what Bill started, Jerry went back to his controlling ways hiring many assistants included Garrett while giving us a proven mediocre HC in Wade Phillips. Only took a few years for it to start falling apart, but instead of trying to fix it with a quality HC, Jerry opted to promote his boy Garrett. And with personnel he went back to listening to guys like Lacewell and Switzer, just like he did in the late 90's -early '00's.

Jerry has made it apparent he'd rather be in control with subpar HC's than giving up any power to a quality HC or personnel men. Shouldn't be any real surprise we are again stumbling around .500. But JJ has always been more interested in power and control than doing whatever it takes to win.

I think BP did a very good job but he still worked with Ireland and jerry and Ireland views were just as important in getting players. BP has said people have a big misconception of Jerry Jones, he knows he was there so when fans or media go off they are talking out there backside with their own fricken spin. BP did not always get the guy he was aiming for but he, jerry and Ireland worked together to upgrade this team.

 

[khiladi]

Yeah if Garrett wasn't churning the roster on defense... Uh wait, he isn't..

 

[blindzebra]

Is blind zebra Jason Garrett's Dad or what??? Garrett blew the Lion's game and the Packer's game. The packers game was inexcusable and he almost cost Dallas the Washington game by again going away from the running game in the 3rd quarter. Now I will say this. Dallas has no business winning this next game or a playoff game with their lack of talent. If this team can somehow summon their inner warrior spirit and beat the Eagles and win a playoff game, then and only then would I be willing to overlook his shortcomings. If Dallas loses to Philly he should be fired when the year is over due to the debacle against Greenbay. That ******** playcalling is unacceptable from a high school head coach much less a head coach on a professional football team.

The offense was balanced against Detroit and put up 30, just how did Garrett blow that game? The 623 yards the D gave up cost us that game. Let me guess he should have passed for the FD or did he make Smith hold to stop the clock?

The Green Bay game again the defense collapsed. Dallas was 6 pass, 5 run the first drive of the 3rd. Green Bay scored again and a Murray drop on first down that would have given us 2nd and short lead to a 3 and out. Green Bay scored and we matched it.

You don't think that with the defense giving up TD after TD that the pressure to score increased? It is laughable the standard that is set for Garrett.

 

[blindzebra]

Yeah if Garrett wasn't churning the roster on defense... Uh wait, he isn't..

Yeah we had 18 defensive linemen on the 53.

 

[khiladi]

Love how it's the d's fault for when they lose, but when Kiffen and Marinelli are churning the roster, it's all Garrett...

 

[blindzebra]

Love how it's the d's fault for when they lose, but when Kiffen and Marinelli are churning the roster, it's all Garrett...

Why is it that it is those with the least to say that are the ones who never shut up?

 

[xwalker]

The Green Bay packers are playing with their 4th string practice squad QB!!!

I get it, it's been hard this year. But, it's 17 years of..........excuses......

Just stop. Stop making excuses....

No, they're not. They are playing with their previous #2 QB that they wanted to retain but got paid too much as a free agent. He was available because he was not a fit for Seattle's or Oakland's offense.

 

[neosapien23]

The offense was balanced against Detroit and put up 30, just how did Garrett blow that game? The 623 yards the D gave up cost us that game. Let me guess he should have passed for the FD or did he make Smith hold to stop the clock?

The Green Bay game again the defense collapsed. Dallas was 6 pass, 5 run the first drive of the 3rd. Green Bay scored again and a Murray drop on first down that would have given us 2nd and short lead to a 3 and out. Green Bay scored and we matched it.

You don't think that with the defense giving up TD after TD that the pressure to score increased? It is laughable the standard that is set for Garrett.

When it was obvious that the defense was not getting set, Garrett should have called timeout. I could tell with the way the Dlineman were lollygagging that a quarterback sneak was going to be wide open. If a fan can notice this, then a HC should have seen it as well. Garrett has a horrible feel for the game. He should have called timeout as a spike would have only burned a few seconds vs the timout which would allowed his team to line up properly. As for running the ball to kill the clock, I had no problem with that playcall and that it was the right one.

As for the green bay game, going pass heavy is inexcusable. Dallas should have come out running the ball in the 2nd half as green bay and not stopped them all game long. If greenbay would have all of a sudden started stuffing run there your argument about the defense would have more teeth. Everyone knows the defense sucks, but Garrett should have put his team in the best position to win, something he did not do that day

 

[blindzebra]

When it was obvious that the defense was not getting set, Garrett should have called timeout. I could tell with the way the Dlineman were lollygagging that a quarterback sneak was going to be wide open. If a fan can notice this, then a HC should have seen it as well. Garrett has a horrible feel for the game. He should have called timeout as a spike would have only burned a few seconds vs the timout which would allowed his team to line up properly. As for running the ball to kill the clock, I had no problem with that playcall and that it was the right one.

As for the green bay game, going pass heavy is inexcusable. Dallas should have come out running the ball in the 2nd half as green bay and not stopped them all game long. If greenbay would have all of a sudden started stuffing run there your argument about the defense would have more teeth. Everyone knows the defense sucks, but Garrett should have put his team in the best position to win, something he did not do that day

So your solution would be to stop the clock for them?

WOW is all I can say.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Why is it that it is those with the least to say that are the ones who never shut up?

Actually, he asked a very astute question.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

After three and a half years, you would expect some evidence that Garrett is a good head coach, and we don't have it. Instead, we have a string of improbable losses over 3 years.

 

[blindzebra]

Actually, he asked a very astute question.

One has nothing to do with the other. With the injuries you can churn all you want and it still is the scum on the bottom of the barrel that is causing the D to be so bad. It is not really anyone's fault we have just had an unbelievable run of injuries.

 

[neosapien23]

So your solution would be to stop the clock for them?

WOW is all I can say.

VS giving up the easy touchdown, absolutely. The defense was dicking around and was totally unprepared. They were basically standing up because they thought Detroit was going to spike the ball. How many more seconds would Detroit have had with Dallas calling time out vs a spike. Three seconds. Garret should have call timeout when it was obvious to everyone including Stafford that the defense was not prepared for a sneak.


I also noticed you conveniently left out the fact that Garrett hardly ran the ball against Green Bay in the 2nd half. guess it shows your bias. While Garrett could be given a pass for Detroit, there is no explanation for what happened in this game other than one that a Garrett apologist could make. Even Garrett knew he screwed up, because he looked like he was about to crap himself when the game was over. He still didn't learn and went pass happy against Washington when Murray was still moving the ball. Garrett's disdain for the running game is unbelievable considering it has been very productive in the last few games. The Green Bay game was all Garrett's fault. The D sucked and as the HC he should have made the best decisions to put his team in the best position to win. He simply did not do that.

 

[blindzebra]

After three and a half years, you would expect some evidence that Garrett is a good head coach, and we don't have it. Instead, we have a string of improbable losses over 3 years.

Better drafts.

Wins after those improbable losses.

Players playing hard through adversity.

The entire Josh Brent ordeal.

Maintaining a non-losing record through two years of unbelievable numbers of injuries gutting our defense.

 

[blindzebra]

VS giving up the easy touchdown, absolutely. The defense was dicking around and was totally unprepared. They were basically standing up because they thought Detroit was going to spike the ball. How many more seconds would Detroit have had with Dallas calling time out vs a spike. Three seconds. Garret should have call timeout when it was obvious to everyone including Stafford that the defense was not prepared for a sneak.


I also noticed you conveniently left out the fact that Garrett hardly ran the ball against Green Bay in the 2nd half. guess it shows your bias. While Garrett could be given a pass for Detroit, there is no explanation for what happened in this game other than one that a Garrett apologist could make. Even Garrett knew he screwed up, because he looked like he was about to crap himself when the game was over. He still didn't learn and went pass happy against Washington when Murray was still moving the ball. Garrett's disdain for the running game is unbelievable considering it has been very productive in the last few games. The Green Bay game was all Garrett's fault. The D sucked and as the HC he should have made the best decisions to put his team in the best position to win. He simply did not do that.

We did run the ball in the 3rd and it would have been even more balanced had Murray caught the swing pass.