Do people really believe there is a better option than Dak this year?

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  1. CowboysFaninHouston

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    good, conversation is good. do you know the difference between the two? lets see how smart you are.
     
  2. Aviano90

    Aviano90 Go Seahawks!!!

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    What you do is not conversation.
     
  3. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    This past season was Dak's best year. His rookie year had a better pick rate but he only averaged 18 attempts a game. 2019 was far and away his most productive.
     
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  4. cern

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    Just the obvious conclusion that a trained, licensed therapist wouldn't think they're helping anyone by belittling them and being a smart ..... you are simply arguing with another fan and not agreeing with him. All pretensions to the contrary are fooling no one.
     
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  5. cern

    cern Well-Known Member

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    Are you dr. Phil?
     
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  6. CowboysFaninHouston

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    related :rolleyes:
     
  7. gjkoeppen

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    I see so if any QB like oh say Brady or Rodgers or even going back to Aikman has a game where he threw zero TD's that game is the total measuring stick for his career. Please tells us more about Elliott last season who had 6 games where he rushed for under 60 yards, one on 18 carries and ONLY 35 yards. That eagle game he was so much help with his whopping 47 yards. Or should we talk about the 5 sacks the line gave up in that game or the 4 dropped passes in that game. Maybe we should talk about the 431 yards the defense gave up or allowing the eagles to convert 42% of their 3rd downs.

    Funny thing, not ha ha funny, That there are way more reasons why the Cowboys lost 8 games beyond Prescott.
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  8. CowboysFaninHouston

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    during preseason I criticized Dak for some of his short comings, specially his foot work, which lead to inaccuracy and him not trusting himself. I was called a Dak hater, but I was being a realist. My point was that he needs to improve some of his fundamentals and his game will improve along with it. Seemingly as I have read and heard from everyone that his footwork was much better, his numbers as a result was much better. Despite everything and all the arguments against Dak, he did have a good year, although he had some bad games and some bad stretches in some games. coaching, or lack of it cost us at least 2 games, if not 3. special teams contributed and bad bad defense was a big culprit.
     
  9. jnday

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    It was the most productive when it came to stats. Those stats didn’t translate to wins though.
     
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  10. CowboysFaninHouston

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    I guess Brady sucked, since in a playoff game against the titans and at home no less, he had no TDs and was awful..and to your point that was the last game of the season....

    lamar Jackson sucked since ravens only scored 12 points....just down right awful and at home no less

    and grapolo...OMG, down right awful, he had 8 passes against the packers in the NFCCG....that's awful awful awful

    yeah, these people want you to forget the entire body of work, (except when it fits their argument), pick and choose games, drives and plays to make their point
     
  11. garyo1954

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    I was getting the impression it was like Dr Pimple Popper
     
  12. Gangsta Spanksta

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    And then we have people who call anyone who disagrees with them: wannabe GM's.
     
  13. Gangsta Spanksta

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    It's always the jilted Girlfriends that bring up the names more often, it seems. hmm....
     
  14. Gangsta Spanksta

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    I've been wrong about Dak. Back when he first was playing in the preseason I saw something special and at the End of 2016 I thought that Dak and Wentz would be the next generation of elite QBs in the league. I thought that he would surpass Romo in greatness. Then 2017 came by and exposed some of the flaws that Dak had, and those lingered into 2018. I was thinking at that time that Dak was just average and wouldn't ultimately overcome his in inaccuracies and forget a bout the Deep Game. Dak is a hard worker, and he worked hard and improved his game, and now the things about him not having a deep game is a thing of the past thanks to his hard work ethic.

    Ultimately I think Dak is on the same level as Romo. A good Quarterback but not quite Elite. Both aren't Clutch like the elite ones, they're normal at winning games, and both now have had seasons where they had a chance to be clutch but lost the must win games. Dak has one thing going for him that Romo didn't have now. He lost the puppet coach, and hopefully has a good coach in the prime of his career. A good Coach gives him a chance to win in the playoffs, but I don't think a good coach can overcome crossing the line of where you overpay a QB too much the talent level drops around him too much to be able to win a championship. I am for paying Dak, but I'm not for overpaying him so much that he will have to carry the team to win.
     
  15. Gangsta Spanksta

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    You act as if this has never happened to a quarterback around here before, and isn't common place. ;)
     
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  16. Gangsta Spanksta

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    Me and Aviano disagree a lot of times. But when you start insulting him, or any poster around here, questioning if they are grade schoolers and doped out on something, well it kind of makes it hard to take you serious from here on out. When you debate somebody, you should attack their arguments and not the debaters themselves. Attacking the person making the arguments means that you don't have anything to back up your own argument.
     
  17. CowboysFaninHouston

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    whose fault is that?
     
  18. CowboysFaninHouston

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    what do you consider elite and why?
     
  19. America's Cowboy

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    Ok. Your boytoy is calling you.
     
  20. Gangsta Spanksta

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    First of we don't know if Dak will get a deal that done that won't hurt us too much. It's the $40 mil thing that seems to be whats too costly. I do remember the days after Aikman and how painful it was. But if Dak does hold out for the $40 mil price tag, then basically he has put our team into a no win situation. You have the painful Choice of trying to find another quarterback, or you can choose the reality of 8-8 and 6-10 seasons because you have a good quarterback, but you are unable to surround him with enough talent, and the quarterback is good, but he is not elite and is unable to carry a team with holes through the playoffs. Romo wasn't able to overcome flaw teams and carry them through the Playoffs and so far Dak hasn't show that ability either. In fact, while I have seen Romo being able to carry a team during the regular season in some games, I don't really think have hae seen any evidence at all yet that Dak can carry a team. So is it logical to choose the option where you require a quarterback to be able to carry a team to have any shot of playoff success, and the QB you have hasn't shown any sign that he is capable of that. Or is it logical to choose the option where you have to gamble on trying to find his replacment. Dak can win, and I think Dak can win a superbowl from the improvements in him I have seen. But I don't think Dak has a chance to win if you set things up so that he is responsible to carry a team. That is my opinion.
     

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