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Do the Cowboys have the best 4-3 LB corps in the NFL?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Altestic, Aug 15, 2019.

  1. darthseinfeld

    darthseinfeld Drunk on Dalton Juice

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    Yes. Give you much better pass defense out of base packages to have 3 high level pass defenders at the LB position on the field
  2. Altestic

    Altestic Benched

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    CAR lost Davis. Their 2nd LB is an undersized guy in Thompson who is basically equal to our Joe Thomas. Also they converted to 3-4 now so they're out of the equation.

    SEA is the only one who comes close. Behind the LOB core of Wagner/Wright intact they have solid guys in Bark Mingo and Mychal Kendricks (if he's not in jail) behind them.
  3. Asklesko

    Asklesko Well-Known Member

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    It's funny how Cowboys fans always overrate their players.
  4. Altestic

    Altestic Benched

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    Bark Mingo and Mychal Kendricks are a very solid 3rd and 4th. But the latter is facing up to 3 years in prison. Sentencing is late September.
  5. DasSchnitzel

    DasSchnitzel Well-Known Member

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    Just due to the nature of LBs, it takes A LOT to be hands-down, the BEST LB group.

    I would argue that there's only been a handful of times where one group was clearly and utterly the best of their year.

    So that said, 100% the Dallas group is in the conversation of best right now, but the best of the NFL for sure? Nah. Seattle is too close and could be better on any given week.
  6. Whirlwin

    Whirlwin Well-Known Member

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    I used to think San Francisco had the best linebackers. And then all the injuries. But you're right I can't think of a better tandem
  7. erod

    erod Well-Known Member

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    Teams pretty much stay in nickel except in short yardage and goal line.
  8. DasSchnitzel

    DasSchnitzel Well-Known Member

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    People keep saying this like it matters to the question asked, and it doesn't.

    Dallas has 3 LBs that can play in a nickel formation as well as any other. Some teams dont even have 2, some teams have 2 until an injury. Dallas can absorb one injury and still put two probowlers out there in nickel.

    "Best LB group" is as much about depth as it is starters. In the base 4-3, dallas has 3 probowlers. In nickel, dallas has two probowlers and one more providing depth.
  9. erod

    erod Well-Known Member

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    But it's also true that they struggled mightily toward the end of the season.

    They're good, but Cowboy fans always overrate their players a bit.
  10. darthseinfeld

    darthseinfeld Drunk on Dalton Juice

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    Teams still pass out of those formations
  11. Jake

    Jake Curmudgeon

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    Until those players want paid, at which point every perceived flaw is placed under a microscope.
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  12. stilltheguru

    stilltheguru Well-Known Member

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    Yeabut then you have goofballs that are the opposite and go out of their way to let us know our players are OKKKK. Ain’t that right @mattjames2010
  13. DasSchnitzel

    DasSchnitzel Well-Known Member

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    No matter what I say in response you can say "well you're just a Cowboys fan, and they overrate their players".

    At their worst, Dallas LBs were average. If you want to argue that LVE, Jaylon, and Lee are any less than a top 5 4-3 LB group, you simply dont know what you're talking about.

    I think they're top 3. Top 3 vs top 5 is the only real conversation here. If you want to put them below top 5, then... I dont even know what to say besides saying you aren't watching enough NFL games.
  14. Hawkeye0202

    Hawkeye0202 Well-Known Member

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    LOL....as one player once tweeted, what fans think the last couple years have been on the rookie deal?
  15. Floatyworm

    Floatyworm The Labeled One

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    We are so over-rated it's not even funny.

    LVE should be playing in the middle....but isn't because Jaylon can't cover. So not only are you taking away what LVE does best...stop other teams from running the football...your stunting his growth as a team leader.

    Make no doubt...LVE is the better player. He can cover and make plays in the back field. This is not the first time this organization has taken a guy and ruined his career....because they want to play a fan favorite...and hide a guys deficencies like Jaylon's....in order to sell tickets.

    As for Lee...He should have been cut 3 years ago. He's in the top 5 for most over-rated players in the entire NFL. Why we even bother??? IDK...I just know I'm tired of watching him pout on the sidelines. ..whenever he is hurt...which is all the time.

    Flame suit on...so flame away. Sadly...people know the truth...and refuse to accept it. I worry we don't have any depth after our top 2 guys...and Joe Thomas.
  16. BAT

    BAT Mr. Fixit

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    Colts, Bears, Jags, Ravens also have good LB units.
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  17. Hadenough

    Hadenough Well-Known Member

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    Dallas very well could have the best LB duo in football. The thing about Carolina is they had a strong dline that allowed their LBs to drop back in coverage or hit the gaps and make plays.
  18. jaythecowboy

    jaythecowboy Well-Known Member

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    LVE isn't playing the Mike cause he gets stuck on blocks too easily. Playing the will he doesn't have to deal with blockers as much.
  19. John813

    John813 Well-Known Member

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    Yea, I wouldn't either. Just saying right now Wagner is probably the best in the business and Wright ain't no slouch himself.
  20. Section446

    Section446 Well-Known Member

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