Do we finally have a vertical passing game?

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If I were Garrett, I would send WR Roy Williams deep on almost every play. Maybe it's good that I'm not Garrett :)D) but hear me out.

With Roy Williams manning the #2 WR position we can force the Commanders to use CB Shawn Springs to cover him on those deep routes. He's their fastest guy, and the one who bumped-and-ran T.O. out of the last game.

By consistently sending Roy Williams deep, Dallas can force Springs off of T.O. to open him up, as I don’t think the Skins other corners can cover him 1-on-1. After all, Romo has more familiarity and timing with T.O., and with Crayton also, who now from the #3 WR spot, can provide a good safety valve for Romo over the middle.

The key is opening up that short/intermediate middle for T.O. and Crayton (and less so for Witten who has broken ribs). And sending Williams deep does not merely make him a decoy for the offense; that’s because even if the Skins put Springs on him 1-on-1, I like Williams to beat that, or any, 1-on-1 matchup. And if they double him, it will surely open up T.O./Crayton for single coverage over the middle, and it keeps one less Commander in the box to stop Dallas’ running game -- which should open things up for Barber.

It’s amazing what a vertical passing game can do for an offense, and Dallas has not had that the last two years – until now, now that WR Roy Willimas and Romo are both playing!

Thoughts?
 

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Heck I would like to see 4 wide and Romo in the shotgun the whole game.
 
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AMERICAS_FAN;2417857 said:
If I were Garrett, I would send WR Roy Williams deep on almost every play. Maybe it's good that I'm not Garrett :)D) but hear me out.

With Roy Williams manning the #2 WR position we can force the Commanders to use CB Shawn Springs to cover him on those deep routes. He's their fastest guy, and the one who bumped-and-ran T.O. out of the last game.

By consistently sending Roy Williams deep, Dallas can force Springs off of T.O. to open him up, as I don’t think the Skins other corners can cover him 1-on-1. After all, Romo has more familiarity and timing with T.O., and with Crayton also, who now from the #3 WR spot, can provide a good safety valve for Romo over the middle.

The key is opening up that short/intermediate middle for T.O. and Crayton (and less so for Witten who has broken ribs). And sending Williams deep does not merely make him a decoy for the offense; that’s because even if the Skins put Springs on him 1-on-1, I like Williams to beat that, or any, 1-on-1 matchup. And if they double him, it will surely open up T.O./Crayton for single coverage over the middle, and it keeps one less Commander in the box to stop Dallas’ running game -- which should open things up for Barber.

It’s amazing what a vertical passing game can do for an offense, and Dallas has not had that the last two years – until now, now that WR Roy Willimas and Romo are both playing!

Thoughts?


Talent wise, it wasn't the issue, it's been play-calling added with injuries. Garrett gets too crazy with the pass. You need to be able to run the ball with more consistantly and that will set up play-action down field.

If you can't run the ball in december when the weather gets colder and ca't stop the run then your chances of winning are not good.
 

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RW11, TO, Crayton, Austin going out, and Bennett from the TE going out. We don't need Witten right now, make him rest for the playoffs. Barber taking delayed hand-offs occasionally or dump offs in the flats, how can you defend that?

28-10 Dallas
 

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I think the offense will open up quite nicely if Romo is close to 100%. My major concern would be Adams out there blocking with 1 arm still. Hopefully these last 2 weeks have helped him recover.
 
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CowboyFan74;2417869 said:
RW11, TO, Crayton, Austin going out, and Bennett from the TE going out. We don't need Witten right now, make him rest for the playoffs. Barber taking delayed hand-offs occasionally or dump offs in the flats, how can you defend that?

28-10 Dallas


Wishfully thinking on Witten. Never happen. You need everybody right now! The Cowboys have an uphill battle and can't afford to many more loses.
 

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Pick6TerenceNewman;2417874 said:
Wishfully thinking on Witten. Never happen. You need everybody right now! The Cowboys have an uphill battle and can't afford to many more loses.

I never thought I'd say this but we really don't need him right now, he needs to rest. IF RW11 and TO on the field at the same time doesn't take pressure off the O-line and Romo, then nothing will...
 

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panchucko;2417860 said:
Heck I would like to see 4 wide and Romo in the shotgun the whole game.

In case you didnt see the last Commanders game, thats pretty much what we did, and look how that turned out.

Barber got 8 carries or something of the sorts?

It all starts with the running game, period. I hope we pound it down their throats. If we are successful that will open up the pass and they wont have a clue what type of play is coming next.
 

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AMERICAS_FAN;2417857 said:
If I were Garrett, I would send WR Roy Williams deep on almost every play. Maybe it's good that I'm not Garrett :)D) but hear me out.

With Roy Williams manning the #2 WR position we can force the Commanders to use CB Shawn Springs to cover him on those deep routes. He's their fastest guy, and the one who bumped-and-ran T.O. out of the last game.

By consistently sending Roy Williams deep, Dallas can force Springs off of T.O. to open him up, as I don’t think the Skins other corners can cover him 1-on-1. After all, Romo has more familiarity and timing with T.O., and with Crayton also, who now from the #3 WR spot, can provide a good safety valve for Romo over the middle.

The key is opening up that short/intermediate middle for T.O. and Crayton (and less so for Witten who has broken ribs). And sending Williams deep does not merely make him a decoy for the offense; that’s because even if the Skins put Springs on him 1-on-1, I like Williams to beat that, or any, 1-on-1 matchup. And if they double him, it will surely open up T.O./Crayton for single coverage over the middle, and it keeps one less Commander in the box to stop Dallas’ running game -- which should open things up for Barber.

It’s amazing what a vertical passing game can do for an offense, and Dallas has not had that the last two years – until now, now that WR Roy Willimas and Romo are both playing!

Thoughts?

Roy Williams is hardly a deep threat. I'd rather send TO deep.
 

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ajk23az;2417885 said:
In case you didnt see the last Commanders game, thats pretty much what we did, and look how that turned out.

Barber got 8 carries or something of the sorts?

It all starts with the running game, period. I hope we pound it down their throats. If we are successful that will open up the pass and they wont have a clue what type of play is coming next.

It used to but this team is the reverse now. The pass sets up the run...
 
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CowboyFan74;2417880 said:
I never thought I'd say this but we really don't need him right now, he needs to rest. IF RW11 and TO on the field at the same time doesn't take pressure off the O-line and Romo, then nothing will...


I hear were you are coming from. If our record was say 8-1 or 7-2 than I would say give him another week or two but as we all know that is not what it is. We are 5-4 and holding on for dear life.
 

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CowboyFan74;2417889 said:
It used to but this team is the reverse now. The pass sets up the run...

Take a look at the GB game. We ran it down their throat, Barber had 142 yards on 28 carries.

That has been BY FAR the most complete game we have played this year.
 

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ajk23az;2417910 said:
Take a look at the GB game. We ran it down their throat, Barber had 142 yards on 28 carries.

That has been BY FAR the most complete game we have played this year.

The Commanders run D is far superior to GB...
 

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Being that RWR is a "jumpball/great hands/catch-anything-in-his-vicinity" type of WR. He should go long.

We now have TWO KINDS OF BEASTS at WR position.
  1. TO - an "animal" when he gets the ball... a true freak at his position/self made
  2. RW - a TRUE "natural" WR.
Both playmakers.

With Bennett and Witten underneath and Barber and Felix out of the backfield.

We have ACES to go out into secondary in TO and RW.
We have ACES over the middle in Witten and Bennett.
We have ACES out of the backfield in Barber and Jones.


We SHOULD be ABLE to IMPOSE our WILL on ANY team in the NFL.
 

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YoMick;2417930 said:
Being that RWR is a "jumpball/great hands/catch-anything-in-his-vicinity" type of WR. He should go long.

We now have TWO KINDS OF BEASTS at WR position.
  1. TO - an "animal" when he gets the ball... a true freak at his position/self made
  2. RW - a TRUE "natural" WR.
Both playmakers.

With Bennett and Witten underneath and Barber and Felix out of the backfield.

We have ACES to go out into secondary in TO and RW.
We have ACES over the middle in Witten and Bennett.
We have ACES out of the backfield in Barber and Jones.


We SHOULD be ABLE to IMPOSE our WILL on ANY team in the NFL.

Flambeau, saute, all day...:D
 
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