Do we trade our 1st round pick?

[fortdick]

I think we do. The needs of the team right now are for young, strong offensive linemen. I believe if we traded this years first for several seconds, thirds, or whatever the value chart indicated, we can get what we need faster. Except for a very few, like Gallery, linemen go later in the draft. We could use about two really good second round types, and maybe a third.

Maybe even move up for next year's pick as well, if we want a QB. It worked for our defense!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I would really like to see a trade out of the first, for more picks and a 1st in 07. I think there could be some very interesting players available in 07. Maybe a certain QB or RB that I would love to be able to move up and get if the opportunity presented itself.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think we do. The needs of the team right now are for young, strong offensive linemen. I believe if we traded this years first for several seconds, thirds, or whatever the value chart indicated, we can get what we need faster. Except for a very few, like Gallery, linemen go later in the draft. We could use about two really good second round types, and maybe a third.

Maybe even move up for next year's pick as well, if we want a QB. It worked for our defense!

Depends on where we are in the draft and what type of offers Dallas may get for their spot. For now I say you draft in the spot you end up with.

 

[fortdick]

Ya know, it just occured to me that Houston would be better served to trade away the #1 pick, ala the Walker deal, and pick up a bunch of people. They could hold a lot of teams hostage with Bush and Leinart on the board!

 

[koolaid]

i like having more picks, its safer and u can fill more team needs

 

[HardHittin'Witten]

it depends on where we are picking.

 

[Hoov]

If we traded the #1, im not sure how that would equate as to how many # 2's or 2 and 3 rounds. But if we ended up with 5 picks over the 2nd and 3rd round it might be worth it rather than the 3 we would get if we kept it.

would be good to draft 2 OLineman and 2 LB's and a FS on day 1.

But that would require a team giving up a 2 and 3 for a 1, and our #1 is going to be about 20th overall. I dont know if that is feasable.

 

[AbeBeta]

I doubt it. We had a very special situation there. We were going RB either way. There were several very good RBs that were going to go in the 2nd round (Bell, JJ). Guys that BP evaluated as just as good as the 1st rounders (Jackson, KJ, Perry).

We'd do a similar trade if someone wanted to blow us away with a deal. But I doubt that will happen.

But really, you want to get better? You gotta use that first rounder. Far better to fill one well than fill others with mediocre players.

 

[theogt]

would be good to draft 2 OLineman and 2 LB's and a FS on day 1.

Now THAT would be a successful draft. *mouth watering*

 

[AbeBeta]

If we traded the #1, im not sure how that would equate as to how many # 2's or 2 and 3 rounds. But if we ended up with 5 picks over the 2nd and 3rd round it might be worth it rather than the 3 we would get if we kept it.

would be good to draft 2 OLineman and 2 LB's and a FS on day 1.

But that would require a team giving up a 2 and 3 for a 1, and our #1 is going to be about 20th overall. I dont know if that is feasable.

Why move down? Your chances of success get far worse there. Second and third round picks 'bust' as far higher rates. Me, I'd rather have a Marcus Spears quality player with our 20-something pick instead of a getting a couple of Jacob Rogers types in the 2nd.

 

[Hoov]

Why move down? Your chances of success get far worse there. Second and third round picks 'bust' as far higher rates. Me, I'd rather have a Marcus Spears quality player with our 20-something pick instead of a getting a couple of Jacob Rogers types in the 2nd.

yes, but right now barber and canty looking like good picks, think burnett will turn out to be a good one also. that would be 2nd round and 4th round picks if i remember right.

Also at 20 something, is the best OLineman still on the board, if so grab him, if not why not get 2. Still find good OLineman in the lower rounds, FS and LB's too.

Its the DE, stud WR, RB's that make up most of your 1st round picks. The super dominant OT will be gone by #20, so will the highest rated LB.

Also, considering different type of LB's drafted for 3-4, we may find some that fit perfectly still available at 2nd and 3rd rounds cause teams playing 4-3 taking smaller, faster ones.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Why move down? Your chances of success get far worse there. Second and third round picks 'bust' as far higher rates. Me, I'd rather have a Marcus Spears quality player with our 20-something pick instead of a getting a couple of Jacob Rogers types in the 2nd.

I don't think that's neccesarily true. Lets say our priority for the 1st round is an OT. There are several who could prove to be quality coming out next year. If you think you can get one, I don't see it as a bad move to trade down. Also, picking higher doesn't mean your getting a better player all the time. Lets say you want to take OGs and Safeties. Typically, those positions are not filled in the first round. There are usually good prospects later. Maybe you put your plan together with this in mind. You just never know till you get there.

 

[Portland Fanatic]

There may be players like:

LT Winston
LT Scott
LT Marcus McNeil
QB Jay Cutler
NT Ngata
LB Ahmad Brooks
LB Greenway
LB Bobby Carpenter
WR Hagan
WR Holmes

How do you pass on one of these guys in the first?????????????? I'm just asking.....

 

[fortdick]

Why move down? Your chances of success get far worse there. Second and third round picks 'bust' as far higher rates. Me, I'd rather have a Marcus Spears quality player with our 20-something pick instead of a getting a couple of Jacob Rogers types in the 2nd.

Yes, but my point is that we need offensive linemen. You don't need to take them in the first! Allen and Adams were drafted in the 2nd, By value, the #20 overall pick is worth 850 points. The #50 overall (#20 in the 2nd) is worth 400. at being the case, we could have three 2nd round picks and still have value left over. If we pick three linemen in the second, we have a great chance of getting a probowl quality guy like Allen, and maybe another of Flo's quality. (http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/pick_value_chart.htm)

I know we need a FS and OLB, but I think that those are secondary to the OLine at this point. We are great without the injuries, and a couple more good players puts us over the top. We need depth on the line!

I say trade it!

 

[burmafrd]

Trade our whole draft for picks to go after Quinn in 2007. Is that extreme enough for you?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Trade our whole draft for picks to go after Quinn in 2007. Is that extreme enough for you?

Yes. For me, that is extreme enough.

 

[Billy Bullocks]

FS would be a less concerning issue if we had the Line to open up a dominant running game. Believe me, Larry Johnson is a great back, but do you really think he carved us and all those other teams up so easily. That line dominates. If we could get that type of running game, our current defense would be more than adequate. Get JJ or MB3 averaging just under 5ypc, i guarantee we are going to the SB.

 

[AbeBeta]

Yes, but my point is that we need offensive linemen. You don't need to take them in the first! Allen and Adams were drafted in the 2nd, By value, the #20 overall pick is worth 850 points. The #50 overall (#20 in the 2nd) is worth 400. at being the case, we could have three 2nd round picks and still have value left over. If we pick three linemen in the second, we have a great chance of getting a probowl quality guy like Allen, and maybe another of Flo's quality. (http://www.nfldraftblitz.com/pick_value_chart.htm)

I know we need a FS and OLB, but I think that those are secondary to the OLine at this point. We are great without the injuries, and a couple more good players puts us over the top. We need depth on the line!

I say trade it!

So you want to get say a 2nd and 3rd and end up with another Rogers and Peterman.

And you do take OL in the first. When there are guys worth the picks.

I'm not against trading down -- but I don't want us to leave a stud player -- at any position -- on the board so we can get depth in later rounds.

 

[fortdick]

So you want to get say a 2nd and 3rd and end up with another Rogers and Peterman.

And you do take OL in the first. When there are guys worth the picks.

I'm not against trading down -- but I don't want us to leave a stud player -- at any position -- on the board so we can get depth in later rounds.

How about two 2nds like Allen and Adams? Too much risk hanging all your hopes on a single limeman, first, or second round! Rogers may be back next year after he gets the arm fixed. If he doesn't play here, he will somewhere.

Thing is, we neeed to solidiy the line, and everything else will be fine. Let's get a few good prospects and see who steps up instead of hanging it all on one guy!

 

[31smackdown]

I don't know... how much is the last pick in the first round really worth? jk