Do Ya'll think this team would be better off if Bill Parcells was still Head Coach?

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This is a good question and I want everyone's opinion, Do Ya'll think this team would be better off if Bill Parcells was still Head Coach?

And this also includes all the coaches and scouting Department people who left for Miami would still be part of the Cowboys.


In my opinion, this team would be much better off and we wouldn't be dealing with all the B.S. we've been dealing with the last couple of years.


What Do Y'all think?
 

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Im not sure if it matters who the coach is as long as Jerry is running the show, he seems to be the common denominator on this team.
 

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Yeah because he has a better percentage with us in the playoffs. :rolleyes:
 

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I don't know if we'd be better off or worse off. I think we needed a coach with a little less "BP" in him... but not THAT much less.


We needed a BP with a little bit of Wade sprinkled in. Not the whole Wade Phillips pizza.
 

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Absolutely.


I believe that continuity and stability are paramount. You can't compensate for not having that. I bashed Bill my fair share but looking at things now, I think the team would be better. Of course, that is assuming that Jerry would let him have the control needed.

I think this team just needs some stability at this point. They have everything else. Scheme switches, coaching switches, coordinator switches, players coming in every year, I just think this team needs to stick together and get comfortable with one another.

As much as I cannot stand Wade at times, I am in favor of him coming back just because I don't want to see any more changes happening. Wade can come back all he wants if the D plays like they have for the last handful of games.
 

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Rack;2476147 said:
I don't know if we'd be better off or worse off. I think we needed a coach with a little less "BP" in him... but not THAT much less.


We needed a BP with a little bit of Wade sprinkled in. Not the whole Wade Phillips pizza.
Sounds like Bill Cowher to me.
 

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Rack;2476147 said:
I don't know if we'd be better off or worse off. I think we needed a coach with a little less "BP" in him... but not THAT much less.


We needed a BP with a little bit of Wade sprinkled in. Not the whole Wade Phillips pizza.


Marty Schottenheimer
 

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satam55;2476141 said:
This is a good question and I want everyone's opinion, Do Ya'll think this team would be better off if Bill Parcells was still Head Coach?

And this also includes all the coaches and scouting Department people who left for Miami would still be part of the Cowboys.


In my opinion, this team would be much better off and we wouldn't be dealing with all the B.S. we've been dealing with the last couple of years.


What Do Y'all think?
We would be better off with switzer...
 

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satam55;2476141 said:
This is a good question and I want everyone's opinion, Do Ya'll think this team would be better off if Bill Parcells was still Head Coach?

And this also includes all the coaches and scouting Department people who left for Miami would still be part of the Cowboys.


In my opinion, this team would be much better off and we wouldn't be dealing with all the B.S. we've been dealing with the last couple of years.


What Do Y'all think?

in a word, no

he was washed up as a HC
 

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Rack;2476147 said:
I don't know if we'd be better off or worse off. I think we needed a coach with a little less "BP" in him... but not THAT much less.


We needed a BP with a little bit of Wade sprinkled in. Not the whole Wade Phillips pizza.

We needed the Parcells that coached NYG and NE, not the end of the road version we got.
 

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Dave_in-NC;2476164 said:
Look at Miami. We would be better off with him as GM.

You mean the Parcells that passed on Matt Ryan for Jake Long? Even though the team he was taking over had nothing at QB and hasnt for years?
 

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Someone posted this on the DallasCowboys.com Messageboard when after I posted this Thread:



Here's my list along with a few from KSK as well.


1. He butchered drafts, BADLY.


1a. 2004, only Patrick Crayton is with the team still of 8 total picks. One of those drafted to help out our CB position gave up 61 yards in 43 seconds last playoff game and was a huge reason we couldn't play press coverage in 2007.


1b. 2004, Dallas takes Julius Jones over Stephen Jackson. Say what you will, but who is still with their original team?



1c. 2005 Jerry Jones steps in to prevent Billy from taking Marcus Spears at #11 and instead takes Demarcus Ware.


1d. Billy decides to address the Safety position, with the 208th overall pick, Mr. Justin Berlault. Nah, not a position that we'd ever have to worry about getting burned at when leading 13-0 against Washington.



1e. 2006. My favorite. At #18 in the 2006 draft, Billy takes the son of one of his old players, Bobby Carpenter. San Diego takes Cromartie at #19.
Also taken in the first round after our pick, Lawrence Maroney, Mathias Kiwianuka, Joseph Addai, Nick Mangold, Deangelo Williams, Santonio Holmes.



1f. Out of our 8 picks in 2006, only 4 remain with the team. Of those 4, none are starters.



1g. Of the 7 offensive lineman drafted by Parcells, only 1 remains, and he's a back-up.


1h. Of the 5 cornerbacks drafted by Parcells, 1 cost us a TD in the playoffs all by himself, and the other was his first 1st round pick in 2003.



1i. A huge glaring need at safety was addressed twice, with the 208th pick and with the 138th pick.



1j. If you ever start to wonder when our salary cap gets tight in the next few years, it's because we had to make serious moves to be competitive to overcome Richard-Head Parcells draft **** ups.



2. He brought in players with little to nothing remaining in the tank from teams he had coached before.


3. His defensive schemes were poorly organized and had obvious flaws, i.e. he had no contingencies for ANY pass out of the backfield. NONE. New Orleans exposed us, and Detroit players outright laughed at us on Detroit radio.



4. His playcalling was exceptionally predictable. The old forums were full of game threads where we had huge success rates of calling the plays based on downs and distances. Moreover, players on opposing teams publicly admitted to it as well.


5. He wanted to take the bust Marcus Spears at #11 but was overruled by Jerry so we could get Demarcus instead. Also part of his draft screw ups, but this one deserves double mention because we came so close to losing who is in serious contention for DPOY.



6. He had a habit of drafting players who were related to former players or coaches, Barbie-Doll Carpenter.



7. The glaring need we had at safety once Darren Woodson was forced into retirement WAS NEVER SERIOUSLY ADDRESSED IN THE DRAFT by the worthless POS that is Billy Parcells.


8. He loved to go super conservative in any game allowing the opposing offenses to not only get back into the game with extra possession, but also tired out our defense from playing extended time. This isn't the late 80's, early 1990's. You cannot win many games sitting on a 7 point lead in the 3rd *ing quarter.


9. He openly disrespected players by refusing to call them by name.


10. His abrasive style caused players to publicly applaud the fact that he was no longer with the team when he retired, Julius Jones, Brady James, off the top of my head.



11. He failed to utilize the talents of Julius Jones by implementing a blocking scheme that didn't fit his style of running.


12. He refused to switch QB's despite an entire season of bad decision making and game-ending interceptions by Drew Bledsoe. He stuck with Drew another 6 1/2 games into the 2006 season despite him costing us the Philly game with yet another interception returned for a TD. It was pretty evident by that time that the rest of the team had no confidence in Drew as when he ran a QB draw for a TD, only one person went over to help him to his feet, the rest of the team just walked to the sidelines.


13. He let two of the greatest of all time at their positions simply leave in FA without any regard to their status as Dallas Cowboys or what they meant to the team. Larry Allen and Emmitt Smith.


14. In the playoff game with Seattle, they were using a free safety who wasn't even in the league the week prior. Did we really attack the middle of the field or run some routes to get the FS to bite one way or the other? NO *ing CHANCE. Tony threw for 189 yards while the next week Rex Grossman almost threw for 300 against the same weak anemic secondary.


15. Despite having one of the most dynamic recievers in Terrell Owens and legitimate deep threat Terry Glenn together, dumb *** Billy ALWAYS lined Terrell wide left. Never in the slot, never in a bunch set, never on the right with Glenn. ALWAYS wide left. Pretty easy to defend if you always know where he's going to be at the start of each play.


16. He took Julius Jones over Stephen Jackson. WTG Billy, great job there.


17. His best season was with the previous coach's players at 10-6. Even with four offseason's of drafting and rebuilding, he only got back to 9-7 with "his" type of players. His final record with Dallas was a craptakular 34-32 and 0-2 in the playoffs.


18. He's the *ing moron that called a WR screen on the two yard line that resulted in Seattle's go ahead TD in the 2006 playoffs.


19. He openly called out his offensive coordinators and defensive coordinators on the sidelines in front of the players.



20. His defensive schemes had to be executed to his letter which included LB'ers doing jack *** if there was no routes run through their zones. We literally had LB'ers just jumping up and down because that steaming pile of liquid *** known as Parcells would allow no deviations from his plays even if they had an unimpeded path to the QB.



That's enough for now. I honestly wouldn't shake the guy's hand if he walked into my office. I have, like many here, no respect for the man or the coach.


OH BEFORE I FORGET.....


21. PARCELLS IS FROM WHOM BELICHICK LEARNED TO STEAL SIGNALS AND ILLEGALLY TAPE THE OPPOSITION! Phil Simms openly admitted that they went into games where they knew every single call the other team would make on offense and defense.



From KsK:


22. He refused to address the defensive backfield, safety and CB.


23. He refused to address the Oline, except w/ Rogers and Petermann, two huge draft mistakes. (Petermann was listed as overrated in two different magazines I read)


24. He passed up such obvious choices as Richard Marshall(Car), Jones-Drew(Jax), and Demeco Ryans(Hous). And don't say it's easy to look back and judge, because there were people on here screaming for these picks.


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25. He refused to let Romo play his type of football, and referred to it openly as Romo "going off the reservation".



26. 34-32 openly admitted to having to crush the creativity of the coaching staff and said he had to "rein them in."



27. One year after taking the head coaching job in New Orleans, Sean Payton schooled Billy and showed how inept his offensive and defensive schemes were. The rest of the league followed suit and no efforts to adjust were evident or noticeable.


28. Where would we be if Sean Payton hadn't gone to Eastern Illinois? It's the only reason Romo signed with us over Denver whose head coach also went to EIU. Billy later admitted to almost cutting Romo in preseason. Only Quincy Carter's drug problem precluded that. Where exactly would this team be without Tony Romo's ability today???



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Enough for now. Just thinking about that fat **** give me a headache.


Edit: Forgot these.


29. Twice as head coach Poorsmells had the healthiest team in the league. He did what with it?



30. We were, under that "attention to detail disciplinarian" one of the most penalized teams in the league almost every year he was a head coach.



30a. In 2005 we were the most penalized defense in the entire NFL.


30b. If you take all of the penalties called, offensive, defensive, special teams, accepted and declined here's what we averaged:


2008 - 77 offensive, 94 defensive or 13.1 per game.


2007 - 85 offensive, 104 defensive or 11.8 per game


2006 - 132 defensive, 100 offensive, or 14.5 per game


2005 - 142 defensive, 99 offensive or 15.1 per game.




After reading this, I gotta admit Parcells was more awful than I remember! :mad:

I'm tired of people in the National media (Mainly Just Colin Cowherd) Giving Parcells all the credit for Reviving this team.
 

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Hoofbite;2476148 said:
Absolutely.


I believe that continuity and stability are paramount. You can't compensate for not having that. I bashed Bill my fair share but looking at things now, I think the team would be better. Of course, that is assuming that Jerry would let him have the control needed.

I think this team just needs some stability at this point. They have everything else. Scheme switches, coaching switches, coordinator switches, players coming in every year, I just think this team needs to stick together and get comfortable with one another.

As much as I cannot stand Wade at times, I am in favor of him coming back just because I don't want to see any more changes happening. Wade can come back all he wants if the D plays like they have for the last handful of games.

I think this team would have been better off with Parcells moving up strictly to GM, Sparano being the coach and getting a defensive coordinator like Wade which I doubt would have happened but would have been awesome. I don't know how Sparano isn't getting much coach of the year consideration. That team is playing way above its potential. Garrett is absolutely putrid, no creativity. I wish a team would wisk him away from us in the offseason. Him and Wade just can't seem to get both sides of the ball playing at the same level at the same time. Don't even get me started on ST's
 

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And this is all BP's fault. What a joke. If the penalties were all his fault, why ar they happening? Why are the boneheaded plays happening? and many of them coming from players BP did not chose.

SO how has ROMO done lately without the discipline of BP?

BP convinced Jerrah to pay the Hotel the first time rather then let him go. BP also was the ONLY one that wanted to give Gurode one last chance.
BP was the one that retreived Colombo from the scrap heap.

I could go on but why bother. There are answers for most of what was brought up. But that list is like a Defense attorneys summation- it ain't the WHOLE truth.
 

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Where ever Bill goes he turns that franchise around as he did
with Dallas.He proved his worth when he went 10-6 in the 1st year
and honestly,if That botched snap in Seattle didn't happen,and probably
bringing in TO,well who knows.Look at Miami from a year ago.Yes i wish
he was here and given the GM spot but we are where we are and i believe
our coaches now are more interim.
 

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It was time for Parcells to go as head coach. He was done here, they couldn't take him anymore, and he couldn't take them. That's how he rolls.

But....we could have definitely used the continuity that he attempted to setup here. We could have promoted Sparano and kept the coaching staff largely in tact, instead of the complete rollover that we've had over the past two seasons, which has been as damaging to our team as anything.
 
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