Do you find it funny that Carthon is being considered for Dolphins head coach

[mr.jameswoods]

I once remember Jimmy Johnson saying he didn't know one play, but he knew how to coach players and get the best out of them.. OC and DC are way different then HC OC and DC call the plays HC makes the decision to go for it, who starts, who makes team.....

Case in Point Norv Turner one of the best OC ever but not a great HC, Charlie Weiss good OC horrible Coach... Carthon can not be no worst then Saban, the coach that just left Miami, atlanta ex coach and a host of other coaches,,,,, shoot Matt millen is the 2nd highest paid GM......

Head coaches do a lot more than that. They can call what type of play they are seeking without actually calling the play itself and they can dispute the call by the coordinators and ask for a different type of play. And some head coaches are very involved with calling the plays like Andy Reid, Mike Shannahan, Ken Whisenhunt, Bill Bellichek, and Sean Payton. It depends on the coach. Head coaches also watch film and design and/or approve schemes or strategies. They don't all just sit back and motivate. You don't want a guy who failed miserably at two OC positions to suddenly help a team overcome a 1-15 season. A coach has to be respected by his players. How his Carthon going to command respect considering he has done nothing to set himself apart as a coach in any regard

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I really don't see how you proved anything. He absolutely sucked as an OC with Detroit, meaning his performance surely wasn't a good indicator of why he was hired wherever Parcells hired him after the fact.

I really don't see how he was embarrassed.

I attribute Carthon's lack of success in Detroit, to the lack of a competent front office, I mean, look at them, that roster has been devoid of talent for so long, they had 1 year of good QB play in like a decade, last year, and even then, Kitna wasn't that good

also, didn't Carthon become the AZ O-coordinator after he left here? if so, that's 3 teams that felt Carthon was competent enough to serve in a large capacity on offense, and you add Parcells' comfort level w/ working w/ Carthon before, and it's not that hard to see why there's an interest in Carthon for the OC job in Miami

you guys forget that successful Os come from successful execution

 

[mr.jameswoods]

One of two things going on with Parcells-Carthon.
Either man boobs has man love for Maurice, once called the pompadus of love,

OR

Maurice has photos that Parcells knows must never be shown.

How else to explain Man boobs penchant to employ or help Maurice?

STANDING APPLAUSE!! Oh my gosh, I'm still laughing about the photos bit....LOL

 

[Bob Sacamano]

STANDING APPLAUSE!! Oh my gosh, I'm still laughing about the photos bit....LOL

you may be the only person on the face of this Earth who finds gimmetheball funny in any capacity

 

[mr.jameswoods]

I attribute Carthon's lack of success in Detroit, to the lack of a competent front office, I mean, look at them, that roster has been devoid of talent for so long, they had 1 year of good QB play in like a decade, last year, and even then, Kitna wasn't that good.

But the running game itself was bad which is what Maurice is supposedly an expert in. They had the 4th worsh rushing offense and their leading rusher didn't even have 700 yards on the ground that year. Their offense was ranked 16th overall because of their passing game which was due to Marty Mornhinwheg who was a former west coast offense OC. When Carthon became the OC for the Browns starting in 2006, the team finished the season last in points. The following year, he was fired midseason and the team had 88 points in 6 games. There was such a backlash against Carthon, the Cleveland fans designed a website to ask for his firing much like the Lions are seeking Matt Millen's departure.

also, didn't Carthon become the AZ O-coordinator after he left here? if so, that's 3 teams that felt Carthon was competent enough to serve in a large capacity on offense, and you add Parcells' comfort level w/ working w/ Carthon before, and it's not that hard to see why there's an interest in Carthon for the OC job in Miami

EDIT: Todd Haley is the offensive coordinator for the Cardinals. Whisenhunt does not serve as both the Head coach and OC. Carthon was hired as their runningbacks coach. Carthon was never their OC. I fail to see how you can justify him as a head coach considering he failed badly at two previous OC positions. And the reason he was hired by the Browns as OC was because Romeo Crennel was the head coach and a member of the Parcells coaching tree. No one outside Parcells or his family have seriously considered Carthon as an offensive coordinator.

 

[blindzebra]

Didn't he and Parcells have a ugly falling out when he left Dallas?

Parcells is like his buddy Bobby Knight, loyalty is a one-way street. If you aren't 100% loyal to Tuna you no longer exist.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

But the running game itself was bad which is what Maurice is supposedly an expert in. They had the 4th worsh rushing offense and their leading rusher didn't even have 700 yards on the ground.

who was their RBs? who was their Oline?

No, Ken Whisenhunt is the head coach and OC. Carthon was hired as their runningbacks coach not their O-coordinator.

seems like it was Cleveland, not AZ that he was OC after leaving here, my b

 

[mr.jameswoods]

you may be the only person on the face of this Earth who finds gimmetheball funny in any capacity

I also found your statement about Carthon being the OC in AZ to be really funny

 

[mr.jameswoods]

who was their RBs? who was their Oline?

Isn't that why he was hired? To help establish those things. Isn't that why they hire coaches. Doesn't he take some responsibility in that?

seems like it was Cleveland, not AZ that he was OC after leaving here, my b

Yeah, the same job he was fired at by the guy who hired him after 1.5 seasons. The fact he was fired midseason by the same guy who hired him doesn't speak well of his abilities. He was so bad, Romeo couldn't wait until the end of the season to fire him.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

Didn't he and Parcells have a ugly falling out when he left Dallas?

Parcells is like his buddy Bobby Knight, loyalty is a one-way street. If you aren't 100% loyal to Tuna you no longer exist.

I don't know how much of a falling out they had if Parcells is considering Carthon for the OC position, a guy who failed at his two previous positions as OC and is currently the runningbacks coach for the Cardinals