Do you support an outdoor superbowl?

[koolaid]

Apparently the iggles owner will make a push for the SB if it goes off without a hitch in NY. Dan Graziano of ESPN seems to think this is a horrible idea.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/49829/jeffrey-lurie-will-push-for-philly-super-bowl

Graziano goes on to gripe about the potential of bad weather and states "Having the game in New Jersey next year is a monumental mistake, and the NFL will be lucky if it goes off without a hitch."

Personally, I love the idea of outdoor games and I think Graziano sounds like a ninny. Maybe he should stick to watching indoor soccer if he is so worried about an outdoor football game. People still talk about the Ice Bowl and I love watching games where teams have to tough out the elements and adapt to the situation. Nothing could get better than a winter championship game IMO.

 

[DFWJC]

Respectfully disagree.

I love wild weather games occassionally during the season.
But I do not want weather deciding the outcome of a Super Bowl.

jmo. nothing more

 

[Passepartout]

There are a lot of teams that do not play great in snowy and/or cold weather as they play in the dome like N.O., Indy, Atlanta, etc. Or in warm environments like the Raiders, Fins, Chargers, and 49ers.

There is a lot to think about there if you know what I mean!

 

[DFWJC]

There are a lot of teams that do not play great in snowy and/or cold weather as they play in the dome like N.O., Indy, Atlanta, etc. Or in warm environments like the Raiders, Fins, Chargers, and 49ers.

There is a lot to think about there if you know what I mean!

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[BAZ]

The last few Superbowls have been very entertaining, if this game ended up 7-6 due to snow I think that would be the last time you see it.

 

[Hoofbite]

In a warm climate, sure.

In a cold climate, no.

I don't care to see the entire league battle week after week only to be put in some slopfest to determine the championship.

Imagine if the field turned out like that game in Pittsburgh where it was basically just a mud pit.

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Yeah, 0-0 at the end of the 3rd quarter? No thanks.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I think it's a horrible idea.

The Super Bowl should be decided in about as neutral of conditions as they can achieve in order to make sure that the best team wins.

Plus, it's a disservice to the fans who pay thousands of dollars for a ticket only to get a game likely in awful conditions. And for those who don't live in the Northeast or never have, February is by far the worst weather month of the year. It's often times completely worse than the awful conditions you see in January in the playoffs.





YR

 

[LatinMind]

I think it's a horrible idea.

The Super Bowl should be decided in about as neutral of conditions as they can achieve in order to make sure that the best team wins.

Plus, it's a disservice to the fans who pay thousands of dollars for a ticket only to get a game likely in awful conditions. And for those who don't live in the Northeast or never have, February is by far the worst weather month of the year. It's often times completely worse than the awful conditions you see in January in the playoffs.





YR

Agree that NY superbowl is going to be something nasty

 

[kmp77]

Agree that NY superbowl is going to be something nasty

I think it's going to bite them in the butt. I think people will complain about the cold and snow and the traffic will be insane. And I think the weather will hurt the game. Hopefully it will backfire. I don't mind the game being played in the north as long as it's an indoor stadium.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

The problem with Goodell is he never sees the forest for the trees. Let's say that they get lucky and the weather conditions are mild for the NY Super Bowl, he's still going to get a lot of unhappy fans who had to spend their February vacation time in NY. That's why people hate having the Super Bowl in Detroit. It's cold and crappy there and there is not much for them to do other than go to the actual game, that they are paying $3K for nosebleed tickets.

And even if they luck out on the weather, the operative word is 'luck out.' Goodell is too stupid to think that it won't be a problem down the line and eventually that won't be the case. The idea of risking a tarnished Super Bowl is completely foreign to me. Yet it seems to fly completely over Goodell's head.






YR

 

[joseephuss]

The problem with Goodell is he never sees the forest for the trees. Let's say that they get lucky and the weather conditions are mild for the NY Super Bowl, he's still going to get a lot of unhappy fans who had to spend their February vacation time in NY. That's why people hate having the Super Bowl in Detroit. It's cold and crappy there and there is not much for them to do other than go to the actual game, that they are paying $3K for nosebleed tickets.

And even if they luck out on the weather, the operative word is 'luck out.' Goodell is too stupid to think that it won't be a problem down the line and eventually that won't be the case. The idea of risking a tarnished Super Bowl is completely foreign to me. Yet it seems to fly completely over Goodell's head.

YR

It isn't only Goodell. It is the owners as well. Goodell is not the only one with say in the matter and he probably isn't even the loudest voice. The owners dictate what happens. and they wanted this.

 

[Miller]

Have to honest, Cold Weather SB is about one of the dumbest ideas they have ever had.

The SB is an EVENT..whether people admit it or not. The event takes the form of a week long extravaganza for the fans, media, players, etc...ending with a game. The only places the SB should be played are San Diego, Miami, NO, LA and maybe Tampa. I'm not a fan of NO games because I hate domes but it should be in cities that can entertain, have nice weather and that make it easy for fans, media and players to enjoy their experience. Cold weather game will be horrible. Remember the NFC Championship game in SF where we finally got back to the SB and were tearing Young's head off? That field was horrible. That is what will happen if the weather gets sloppy in other cold weather cities.

 

[koolaid]

Wow, I was way off on this one. If this thread is any indication at all of how most NFL fans feel then its definitely not a good direction to go. I suppose the Superbowl is a little bit different from normal games in that people shell out huge amounts of $ and want to have a more vacation style of experience.

 

[UKCowboysFan]

If you are going to have an outdoor Superbowl, surely the last place you would want it is Philly

 

[InmanRoshi]

The problem is that the Superbowl is becoming such a circus that draws so many people that city and stadium infrastructure is becoming more and more of a strain. It's almost outgrowing some of the more medium market traditional hosting cities. We've already seen the Superdome can't hold a modern Superbowl halftime show without blowing out the electrical grid. As such, I think we're going to see several of the big tourist friendly cities with newer modern stadiums hosting Superbowls, particularly those with mass transit systems and a large number of available upscale hotels like NY, DC and Philly.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

It isn't only Goodell. It is the owners as well. Goodell is not the only one with say in the matter and he probably isn't even the loudest voice. The owners dictate what happens. and they wanted this.

I know that. But, you didn't see this going on in the Tagliabue era. I'm not a huge Tagliabue fan by any means. However, he had no problem telling the owners they were wrong if it was in the best interests of the league. Goodell is just a sock puppet for the owners. So for me, a commissioner does have enough power to make a difference. And if you look at the history of professional sports, when a commissioner sides too much with the owners or with the players, that's when the league starts to crumble.

The only thing the NFL has going for it now is that I don't see the other major professional sports getting their act together and eventually overtaking the NFL as the #1 pro sport in the country. But, that doesn't mean the NFL cannot be overtaken by something else like college football (particularly since they will now have a playoff system in place) or maybe some other form(s) of entertainment render the NFL more irrelevant in the future.






YR

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Agree that NY superbowl is going to be something nasty

1.) It cuts down on external activities ie. tailgaiting and hitting the town. It will draw less people due to "winter" temps.

2.) Giants are idiots for not "doming" the stadium like Cowboys.

 

[landroverking]

I don't think the super bowl played in any northern city is a good idea.

 

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

The problem with Goodell is he never sees the forest for the trees. Let's say that they get lucky and the weather conditions are mild for the NY Super Bowl, he's still going to get a lot of unhappy fans who had to spend their February vacation time in NY...

You might think the risk aversion fears he has with retired players would extend to disgruntled fans disappointed a Super Bowl became an Ice Bowl.

 

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

My longer reply.

The teams that have built indoor stadiums since the Superdome in 1975 got preference to host a SB, so it was an incentive to build them.

If NYC has it both ways, then indoor stadium cities will wonder why they did it?

From a fan's standpoint, sitting in a sub-arctic environment is ***NOT*** an enhanced experience.