BringBackThatOleTimeBoys;5027992 said:You might think the risk aversion fears he has with retired players would extend to disgruntled fans disappointed a Super Bowl became an Ice Bowl.
koolaid;5026921 said:Apparently the iggles owner will make a push for the SB if it goes off without a hitch in NY. Dan Graziano of ESPN seems to think this is a horrible idea.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/49829/jeffrey-lurie-will-push-for-philly-super-bowl
Graziano goes on to gripe about the potential of bad weather and states "Having the game in New Jersey next year is a monumental mistake, and the NFL will be lucky if it goes off without a hitch."
Personally, I love the idea of outdoor games and I think Graziano sounds like a ninny. Maybe he should stick to watching indoor soccer if he is so worried about an outdoor football game. People still talk about the Ice Bowl and I love watching games where teams have to tough out the elements and adapt to the situation. Nothing could get better than a winter championship game IMO.
MartinRamone;5028928 said:Yes i do and encourage it, its unfair to the fans and teams from the north to always do it in the warm area. You should be able to win in warm or in freezing weather.
DFWJC;5029057 said:Ironic that the weather was so miserable the week of the Super Bowl in Dallas. Spectacular stadium with normally mild weather outdoors, but then snow and ice for much of the week.
I've lived in Dallas for over 20 year and that was the single worst week of weather for that time of year I can ever recall.
The football Gods definitely have a bone to pick with Jerry.:laugh2:
Hoofbite;5028986 said:Unfair? What's unfair about it? It's the biggest game of the season and shouldn't be subject to sloppy conditions if at all possible.
How fair would it be to actually pay for a seat to watch a couple of teams play in a frozen over mud pit?
Nobody wants to see a slow-paced punt fest because the weather sucks.
Yakuza Rich;5027506 said:I know that. But, you didn't see this going on in the Tagliabue era. I'm not a huge Tagliabue fan by any means. However, he had no problem telling the owners they were wrong if it was in the best interests of the league. Goodell is just a sock puppet for the owners. So for me, a commissioner does have enough power to make a difference. And if you look at the history of professional sports, when a commissioner sides too much with the owners or with the players, that's when the league starts to crumble.
The only thing the NFL has going for it now is that I don't see the other major professional sports getting their act together and eventually overtaking the NFL as the #1 pro sport in the country. But, that doesn't mean the NFL cannot be overtaken by something else like college football (particularly since they will now have a playoff system in place) or maybe some other form(s) of entertainment render the NFL more irrelevant in the future.
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MartinRamone;5029320 said:Unfair because they never get the chance to play a Superbowl at home, or unfair because they dont get to play in the conditions they are used to play during most of the season.
So lets just play football in summer so its sunny everywhere and people dont have to worry about mud pit.
UKCowboysFan;5027379 said:If you are going to have an outdoor Superbowl, surely the last place you would want it is Philly
Hoofbite;5029505 said:Every year at least one team is guaranteed to not play the superbowl at home. Well, I guess the Jets and Giants could both make it but placating to the possibility of a dual home game for the SB isn't a reasonable stance.
Unless there's a way to play at both team's stadiums simultaneously, this unfair aspect will be there no matter what for at least one of the participants.
As far as conditions go, I'm not even sure that's a reasonable argument at all because warm climate teams would have to travel to cold climates and thus be out of their element.
Odds are, it's unfair to somebody no matter what. These aren't legitimate reasons to move it to a cold city because the problem of things being "unfair" is going to be there no matter what.
There's no decent reason to have an outdoor superbowl in a cold city because nobody wants to watch a sloppy game.
If cities in the north want a SB, build a roof just like Indy did.
koolaid;5026921 said:Apparently the iggles owner will make a push for the SB if it goes off without a hitch in NY. Dan Graziano of ESPN seems to think this is a horrible idea.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/49829/jeffrey-lurie-will-push-for-philly-super-bowl
Graziano goes on to gripe about the potential of bad weather and states "Having the game in New Jersey next year is a monumental mistake, and the NFL will be lucky if it goes off without a hitch."
Personally, I love the idea of outdoor games and I think Graziano sounds like a ninny. Maybe he should stick to watching indoor soccer if he is so worried about an outdoor football game. People still talk about the Ice Bowl and I love watching games where teams have to tough out the elements and adapt to the situation. Nothing could get better than a winter championship game IMO.
LatinMind;5027327 said:Agree that NY superbowl is going to be something nasty