Do you think Williams beats out Austin before the end of the year?

[TwoDeep3]

Garrett doesnt play rookies unless he is forced or they are drafted in the first rd.

Especially since he is on a short leash now.

 

[Rack]

Nope, alot of you act like Austin is chopped liver. The guy scores tds and almost had a 1000 yrds even being as injured as he was. Williams will be developed just like Austin, and Harris were. Only thing that will stop austin from starting are his hammies

 

[reddyuta]

Especially since he is on a short leash now.

I am really curious about Garrett and Escobar.The rookie from all accounts is not a good blocker and i dont know how much 2TE formations we will play even though everybody thinks it will be our staple offense now.What i think will happen is Escobar will not be more than a part time player early on and hopefully he can improve his blocking.

 

[TonyRomo09]

I am really curious about Garrett and Escobar.The rookie from all accounts is not a good blocker and i dont know how much 2TE formations we will play even though everybody thinks it will be our staple offense now.What i think will happen is Escobar will not be more than a part time player early on and hopefully he can improve his blocking.

I think we have always played our best out of the 2TE offense. I think it allows us to be less predictable. which has always been a knock on our offense.

bring back the 2TE, and bring back the pumpfake draw Romo is so good at.

 

[EPL0c0]

The only way WIlliams starts games for Dallas is due to injury of WRs ahead of him on the depth chart. Doesn't matter how talented he is...Jerry's ego won't let a rookie start over his high priced WR.

 

[jterrell]

Ok Dez had 1 more TD and 62 more yards than Miles did for his "Breakout Season". Let me preface this with Miles is NOT better than Dez by ANY stretch of the imagination. With that said, I don't think Austin is overrated just his potential is overshadowed by his chronic hamstring injuries which extremely frustrating considering what he is capable of producing. I guarantee you that IF he wasn't injured, he would be putting up his 2009 numbers with no problem and we wouldn't be having this conversation BUT the unfortunate reality is that he was and we are.

Miles is a 8 year veteran and has two 1000 seasons to his credit.
That's it!

900 yards playing across from Dez and Witten in this offense is nothing. Miles has over 115 targets. He only had 125 when he had 1300+ yards.


At this point you are what you are. Miles is a mediocre starting WR making superstar money. He'll likely be gone soon.


Laurent Robinson came here and had 850+ yards after signing off the street and did so in 81 targets.

 

[Bleu Star]

No...

I think the best thing to come out of a little competition will be that Miles' hammies will feel much better all year.

:laugh2:

THIS!

Goes back to my old saying... Competition is the greatest motivator.

 

[FiveRings]

I'm having a completely different thought process than you guys. I don't think there will be any competition between the two. One, they're both very different receivers, and if anything Miles' biggest competition is maybe Harris or Beasley. Two, in this new, projected offense, it seems like there will be a steady rotation of pieces, maybe with the exclusion of Dez,Witten and Murray.

 

[Wood]

Thoughts? I've always been a fan of Williams, so I think he has a shot.

Do I think he beats Miles out for #2 starter at WR? No
Do I think Miles pulls hammy and Williams ends up starting? Yes

 

[Rack]

Miles is a 8 year veteran and has two 1000 seasons to his credit.
That's it!

900 yards playing across from Dez and Witten in this offense is nothing. Miles has over 115 targets. He only had 125 when he had 1300+ yards.


At this point you are what you are. Miles is a mediocre starting WR making superstar money. He'll likely be gone soon.


Laurent Robinson came here and had 850+ yards after signing off the street and did so in 81 targets.

Put your money where your mouth is, will Williams BEAT OUT Austin for the starting spot this year?

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Miles is a 8 year veteran and has two 1000 seasons to his credit.
That's it!

900 yards playing across from Dez and Witten in this offense is nothing. Miles has over 115 targets. He only had 125 when he had 1300+ yards.


At this point you are what you are. Miles is a mediocre starting WR making superstar money. He'll likely be gone soon.


Laurent Robinson came here and had 850+ yards after signing off the street and did so in 81 targets.

Seasons 2006 & 2007, he caught only 5 passes total. Season 2008, 13 recieptions. So basically 1st 3 seasons aren't a good barometer of him not reaching 1,000 yards. This year will be his 8th year. He is as of now, a 7 year veteran.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/10147/miles-austin

 

[CyberB0b]

Look, I'm not trying to hurt your feelings. The things you previously listed weren't exactly screaming endorsements of the guy, nor were they very indicative of his actual play... prototypical size and speed doesn't necessarily mean he's going to play like Hakeem Nicks... take Laurent Robinson for example. Prototypical size and better than prototypical speed-- didn't do much for him for the majority of his career.

Anyway, back on topic. I've read the scouting reports but I just don't see the speed with this guy. He seems 'clunky' for lack of a better term. He seems to be slow in and out of his breaks, doesn't possess breakaway speed, doesn't possess many skills running with the ball either. I'm not saying that he's awful, but I just don't see anything he does better than Austin or Bryant.

Maybe the slower speed of the big XII never necessitated the need to play at a higher level, but I just don't see it with Williams. Hope I'm wrong.

I said the same thing on draft day and got roasted. He is fast in a straight line, but he doesn't have elite speed.

 

[Texan_Eph89]

Of course he will, and Fredrick will be the Pro Bowl starting center, Escobar will unseat Witten in training camp, Webb will make Carr the third CB and Holloman will push Carter to the bench. That's how good this draft class is!

You tell him! Rob Ryan

 

[dfense]

Thoughts? I've always been a fan of Williams, so I think he has a shot.

The reason they got him is so Austin can move to the slot on three receiver sets.

 

[zrinkill]

Whether he could or not does not matter ....... Chances are Austin will pull a hammy or sprain his ankle during training camp and be hobbled in and out of the lineup all year.

Kid better get ready to play ...... its only a matter of time.

 

[CATCH17]

Williams will get on the field. Cole Beasley managed to get on the field at the end of the year and do some nice things so im sure Williams will manage.

 

[Spectre]

I'm afraid Williams might be a one-trick pony.

 

[ethiostar]

I'm afraid Williams might be a one-trick pony.

Which trick?

 

[jterrell]

Seasons 2006 & 2007, he caught only 5 passes total. Season 2008, 13 recieptions. So basically 1st 3 seasons aren't a good barometer of him not reaching 1,000 yards. This year will be his 8th year. He is as of now, a 7 year veteran.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/10147/miles-austin

Name a single WR who has produced so poorly for so long who is considered elite? Any single player in NFL history who has as few 1000 yard receiving seasons through 7 NFL seasons that was considered even a plus player?

They don't exist.

Miles has always been potential outside 1 stretch of about 20 games that crossed his 2 solid seasons.

He was easily unseated by Dez last year and is simply not an effective star WR given his completion percentages, yards per target or other metrics. He was the culprit on a couple major offensive let downs that get pinned on Romo. One play he lost the ball in the lights the other he stopped running.

Miles is a solid NFL WR but not a star caliber player. He is paid at star level.

If he was a 3m a year WR I'd support him wholly.

 

[rbr651]

Name a single WR who has produced so poorly for so long who is considered elite? Any single player in NFL history who has as few 1000 yard receiving seasons through 7 NFL seasons that was considered even a plus player?

They don't exist.

Miles has always been potential outside 1 stretch of about 20 games that crossed his 2 solid seasons.

He was easily unseated by Dez last year and is simply not an effective star WR given his completion percentages, yards per target or other metrics. He was the culprit on a couple major offensive let downs that get pinned on Romo. One play he lost the ball in the lights the other he stopped running.

Miles is a solid NFL WR but not a star caliber player. He is paid at star level.

If he was a 3m a year WR I'd support him wholly.

You can put Dwayne Bowe, Kenny Brit, Plaxico, Vincent Jackson, Santana Moss, Mike Wallace, Boldin....take your pick, all have been paid as a star and none have performed as such, and these are all active players, to list all players ever would take it's own thread.