Does 1845 YDs Properly Grade Murray's Worth at RB?

[CF74]

I'd like to see charts for all these backs for the following 3 seasons.

And if and when they got injured. Stats only tell Part of the story...

 

[Nightman]

I've read some people talk about how Murray wasn't as effective in the second half of the season. Well yeah. It's hard to run for 1,000 yards in eight games and really isn't a fair benchmark to set. What he did do was run for 791 yards over the second half which is still very very good.

Sign him to a four year deal that we can get out of after year 2 or 3 if the Cowboys have any concerns about him braking down once he hits age 30.

He set the NFL record for consecutive games of 100 yards in the first half and people were surprised when he couldn't do it again immediately with a broken hand.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

And if and when they got injured. Stats only tell Part of the story...

True.

But injuries are part of the game... And Murray hasn't proven to be immune to those (injuries).

Bottom line... regardless of injuries, a change in offensive philosolphy, or whatever, history tells us that backs that shoulder a load like what Murray did in 2014 have a slip in production– and in many cases a BIG slip.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

True.

But injuries are part of the game... And Murray hasn't proven to be immune to those (injuries).

Bottom line... regardless of injuries, a change in offensive philosolphy, or whatever, history tells us that backs that shoulder a load like what Murray did in 2014 have a slip in production– and in many cases a BIG slip.

So the fix is get a guy in the draft and hope he can make an impact or go after a FA that someone else is cutting lose hoping they can replace the production Murray had. That's a lot of ifs to. I would rather sign the guy who has been great on and off the field. I think people are panicking over price but no one knows what it is yet.
JJ low balled Murray responded.

 

[CF74]

True.

But injuries are part of the game... And Murray hasn't proven to be immune to those (injuries).

Bottom line... regardless of injuries, a change in offensive philosolphy, or whatever, history tells us that backs that shoulder a load like what Murray did in 2014 have a slip in production– and in many cases a BIG slip.

Barring injury I don't see him getting less than 1,400 yds behind this line next season. Romo will be healthier and throwing the ball a bit more. Lots of things to factor in but why mess with a good thing?

 

[MichaelWinicki]

So the fix is get a guy in the draft and hope he can make an impact or go after a FA that someone else is cutting lose hoping they can replace the production Murray had. That's a lot of ifs to. I would rather sign the guy who has been great on and off the field. I think people are panicking over price but no one knows what it is yet.
JJ low balled Murray responded.

Just because you would do that doesn't mean the Cowboys will.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Barring injury I don't see him getting less than 1,400 yds behind this line next season. Romo will be healthier and throwing the ball a bit more. Lots of things to factor in but why mess with a good thing?

Just the statement "barring injury" is a big assumption.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Just because you would do that doesn't mean the Cowboys will.

Hu? You have to do one or the other.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Hu? You have to do one or the other.

True.

But I wouldn't feel confident the Cowboys will act in a manner with Murray that you've going approve of.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

True.

But I wouldn't feel confident the Cowboys will act in a manner with Murray that you've going approve of.

We shall see. But I think he has more on his side to keep him here than not.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Perhaps the offense will be as effective if he ran for only 1,100 yards.

Individual rushing totals are not definitive. How well the offense executes during downs when it runs the ball is.

I doubt that, unless the platoon of RBs behind him rush for 700+ yards rushing.

 

[Crown Royal]

Let's get this one thing out of the way:

It is all but guaranteed that we will NOT have an 1800 yard rusher on this team next year. I would suggest we likely won't have a 1600 yard rusher as well.

For me, I consider 1300-1500 yards in today's NFL very, very good. You can win with that number. If we can get a RB who can do that, I'm happy. In my mind, I think you can still get that out of Murray. I feel it is a risk hoping to get that out of ssomeone else. Not to say it isn't possible, just that I think you are taking more risk by going that route.

I'm not worried about other RB's numbers. I am worried about Murray getting injured - not because of his carry count, just because he has a history of it. That is the only risk I see in keeping him.

I don't think he will be so expensive that we can't allocate resource to other needs such as defense. We have enough cap to have our cake and eat it too.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

I think the contract will be much closer to $6mil per season, maybe even less.

That sounds about right, thankfully a respectable figure is probably all that's necessary so we don't insult the guy.
Dez seems to be heading down the track where anything short of a ludicrous amount of guaranteed money is going to insult him.

 

[xwalker]

I'd like to see charts for all these backs for the following 3 seasons.

 

[Nightman]

Thanks. It seems that most had plenty of 1000yd seasons before and after the 1800 yd season

The 1800 yd season was the outlier in most cases, as you would expect. Babe Ruth didn't hit 60 HRs every year

 

[MichaelWinicki]

We shall see. But I think he has more on his side to keep him here than not.

I think there's a lot of good reasons on why the Cowboys should keep Murray.

And there's one reason why they may not.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I think there's a lot of good reasons on why the Cowboys should keep Murray.

And there's one reason why they may not.

Yup, but that number on the table was low. We know that wasn't the final offer. I think the two sides reach an agreement.

 

[xwalker]

Thanks. It seems that most had plenty of 1000yd seasons before and after the 1800 yd season

The 1800 yd season was the outlier in most cases, as you would expect. Babe Ruth didn't hit 60 HRs every year

Yes, the average per carry declined significantly for all of them after the big season. Tiki Barber was the only one whose average eventually got back up near the previous peak.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Let's get this one thing out of the way:

It is all but guaranteed that we will NOT have an 1800 yard rusher on this team next year. I would suggest we likely won't have a 1600 yard rusher as well.

For me, I consider 1300-1500 yards in today's NFL very, very good. You can win with that number. If we can get a RB who can do that, I'm happy. In my mind, I think you can still get that out of Murray. I feel it is a risk hoping to get that out of ssomeone else. Not to say it isn't possible, just that I think you are taking more risk by going that route.

That's a valid point.

Folks have become intoxicated in the thought the Cowboys need an 1,800 yard or even a 1,600 yard rusher to even make the playoffs.

And that's simply wrong.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

That's a valid point.

Folks have become intoxicated in the thought the Cowboys need an 1,800 yard or even a 1,600 yard rusher to even make the playoffs.

And that's simply wrong.

Speaking for myself, I can live with lower yards per season as long as he moves the chains and helps keep Romo clean.