Does anyone else think Jerry might go for Clowney?

[casmith07]

He's gotten two tickets lately for driving around 100 miles per hours. He seems like a me guy. He did take off some this year although to be fair he had an injury or two. He also rushed up the field to make a play too often for me and they ran right at him. And he didn't modify his behavior often. He also go neutralized in some games by one guy. I'm leery of him.

He's still a little raw. He hit the highlight reels with that big hit last year and has been riding the hype since.

We'll see if it translates. My guess is that there is another DE out there who will be leaps and bounds better than Clowney when it's all said and done.

 

[jobberone]

He's still a little raw. He hit the highlight reels with that big hit last year and has been riding the hype since.

We'll see if it translates. My guess is that there is another DE out there who will be leaps and bounds better than Clowney when it's all said and done.

I don't have a good read on him. He's too inconsistent for me and I don't like that rush upfield like Ware does. That's not team football. We'll see. He can only get stronger. I don't think he'll be a bust and he may be a HOFer. I'd have to see more film on him and all the other top pass rushers. He also has some tape on coverage in case someone wants to use him as a 3-4 OLB or a hybrid DE/OLB. I still like his talent.

 

[casmith07]

I don't have a good read on him. He's too inconsistent for me and I don't like that rush upfield like Ware does. That's not team football. We'll see. He can only get stronger. I don't think he'll be a bust and he may be a HOFer. I'd have to see more film on him and all the other top pass rushers. He also has some tape on coverage in case someone wants to use him as a 3-4 OLB or a hybrid DE/OLB. I still like his talent.

I agree. He won't bust. But he might not boom either.

Lots of great talent in this draft along the defensive front, though. Plenty of opportunities for us to get better where we need to and not have to rely on free agency.

 

[DFWJC]

Not really. Teams aren't so reliant on that chart and you always have future picks in play.

I don't give a rat's bleep what that chart tells me. If someone offers my a 2nd and 3rd round pick for a swap of 1s and I'm not in love with a player at the top, I'm taking the deal.

Oh I agree.

Let me know when the 1st or 2nd overall pick goes for a 2nd and 3rd rounder....
Ever.
If so, I'm all in RS.

 

[Risen Star]

Oh I agree.

Let me know when the 1st or 2nd overall pick goes for a 2nd and 3rd rounder....
Ever.
If so, I'm all in RS.

Miami went from 12 to 3 last year for the price of a 2nd round pick.

You guys are way too reliant on that draft chart. Common sense tells you all draft classes aren't created equal. Making that chart, which grades every pick the same every year regardless of the quality of the prospects that particular year, a complete waste of time.

In other words, those top picks hold the same value in a year where you have three legitimate franchise QBs at the top as they do in a weak year with no real blue chip prospects like 2013.

Make sense? The draft board tells you so.

I've seen a direct correlation between the draft board loyalists to the combine test geeks. A never ending mission to break down football into a numeric formula when one doesn't really exist.

 

[DFWJC]

Miami went from 12 to 3 last year for the price of a 2nd round pick.

You guys are way too reliant on that draft chart. Common sense tells you all draft classes aren't created equal. Making that chart, which grades every pick the same every year regardless of the quality of the prospects that particular year, a complete waste of time.

In other words, those top picks hold the same value in a year where you have three legitimate franchise QBs at the top as they do in a weak year with no real blue chip prospects like 2013.

Make sense? The draft board tells you so.

I've seen a direct correlation between the draft board loyalists to the combine test geeks. A never ending mission to break down football into a numeric formula when one doesn't really exist.

I don't think we can go directly by the draft charts...they are just a rough guide at best.

I do think last year was a very weak top of draft and this year is a pretty strong one.
And i do think going from 16th to 1st or 2nd this year is not the same as going from 12th to 3rd last year.

The example of Miami needing the 12th and 42nd overall pick to move up to 3rd actually backs up what I was saying. It would most likely take all (or almost all) of our draft picks to move from #16 all the way up #1 or #2 overall.


We agree that the charts aren't in stone whatsoever.

And I'm not remotely a combine test geek. Never have been.

Maybe I should have said end thread if Clowney goes #1 or #2 overall, unless we wish to spend our whole (or almost our whole) draft.
You're welcome to disagree...that comment had nothing to do with charts being in stone. It's just what I think it would take to go from 16 to 1st or 2nd overall....all, or almost all of our draft.

jmo anyway

 

[KDM256]

Although I think Clowney will be a great player on Sundays, I seriously doubt that Jerry would go after this kid and give up multiple draft picks. Way too many holes that needs to be address to go after this kid at this point in his career.

Clowney falling out of the top 5 is about a better chance as Pres. Obama getting another term in office.

 

[funkytown]

You would have to trade up to #1 for him. First of all, Houston is not trading with us.

Even if they did, we dont have enough to get him.

If Houston passes on the chance to pair him with J.J. Watt, they are idiots. Especially if they choose Bridgewater over him. Clowney should be a slam dunk #1 pick for them. I can see Manziel being the only other choice. The marketing would be crazy, and I think Johnny Football will be a good pro. He can have the same type of impact of a Russell Wilson or a Tony Romo.

 

[JackWagon]

The only thing that might make Clowney slide out of the top 5 is a positive drug test at the combine.