jterrell;5095381 said:
No problem calling them debatable but it would be a rather one-sided debate, lol.
I am well-trained in process management as a PMO.
I understand the jargon Garrett is using.
But I've also seen just how many times process bogs you down. It often gets in the way of results. Coach Wooden was the greatest process coach ever. Coach Phil Jackson was not. He relied upon psychology and motivation. Jimmy was the same as Phil. More than one way works if you use the proper techniques.
Garrett's processes need processing. What process does he have around late game mgmt? Because that clearly isn't working. Questionable play calling and time out usage is really easy to pick at and hard to argue. Process is often short-circuited by variables. Injecting them and processes can fall apart.
At that point you gotta ask yourself if you should have been more flexible in the first place or spend the time it takes to correct and perfect the process?
We've iced our own kicker for cripessake. We invented a bad play....
I am not against Garrett. I hope he succeeds and has a Landry like Cowboys career. I really do. But he has been far from above reproach thus far. I also believe he has a large list of positives but you seemed to indicate any negative was far-fetched or grasping at straws and that simply isn't the case.
Garrett was 5-3 as interim coach and is 16-16 since. That is actually going backwards not improving. He hasn't had the one bottom fall out half season Wade did but he has also experience zero of Wade's success either as a division winner or playoff team. In many ways being 8-8 is the worst thing an NFL team can be.
You're blurring here the process of building and managing a team and the 'process' of managing a game. It's his process for building a staff, managing the cap, managing scouting and the draft, managing the owner to the extent that can be managed, and handling the press that's impressive.
You mention John Wooden. He's a great reference for Garrett, because pretty clearly Jason reads and admires John Wooden. Here's just one of Wooden's quotes on the subject of records:
I've often said some of the greatest teaching jobs are being done by coaches that don't have very outstanding records, because they're not located in a situation where they have an opportunity to have an outstanding record, and yet they may be coming closer to getting the maximum potential out of what they have than somebody who is winning championships.
http://espn.go.com/page2/s/questions/wooden.html
It's not all about records. A coach's performance has to be measure relative to his circumstances. At some point, the wins need to come, but the circumstances do matter.
And I hope it isn't coming off as if I'm saying criticism of Garrett is far-fetched or grasping at straws. I don't think it is. I've said myself that he's got a lot of work to do on game days and that his offense overall still has player execution problems that are his responsibility to correct.
I do think he's really strong during the week in-season and all through the offseason. That's particularly important in Dallas. And I think he's adequate on game days and getting better, which is exactly what I'd expect from someone of his tenure.
People will say that the game day coaching by far the most important part of the deal, but I don't think that's the case. Jimmy, for example, was a lot stronger on the other days than he was on game day. Give me a guy with a plan and the will and the smarts to execute it, and surround him with some experienced coordinators and I'm pretty happy.