Does Keyshawn run a 5.0 flat?

[Fan Since 77]

Seriously, K.J. looks slower than some of the offensive lineman.

The real problem are the receivers. We're not going to the playoffs with Keyshawn and Glenn as our two main options through the air.

Well, that and the fact that Bledsoe needs 5 seconds to throw the ball, and our line gives him 2.

I don't even know why I was slightly optimistic about this season.

 

[jman]

I don't even know why I was slightly optimistic about this season.

Because you are a football fan. And no matter who your team may be, everyone is optimistic during camp.

 

[DallasEast]

Seriously, K.J. looks slower than some of the offensive lineman.

The real problem are the receivers. We're not going to the playoffs with Keyshawn and Glenn as our two main options through the air.

Well, that and the fact that Bledsoe needs 5 seconds to throw the ball, and our line gives him 2.

I don't even know why I was slightly optimistic about this season.

I have no idea how fast Johnson is. I do know that there are precious few, if any, offensive lineman who can run faster than him. If they could, you would see them lining up as wide outs.

The potential for injury is the main concern with our number one and two receivers. Glenn still has the speed to stretch the field and Johnson is a very good possession receiver. If they're healthy and run their routes well, the responsibility for getting the ball will rest solely on Bledsoe's shoulders.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Well, I remember about the time that Keyshawn was traded to the Bucs he was hailed as a bigger and faster version of Michael Irvin.

He certainly is not a burner, and maybe at this point of his career he isn't faster than our TE's.

But he is still effective in a ball control offense. Someone else, whether it is Glenn, or Crayton, or Morgan, or Copper, has to give us the deep threat.

 

[Cheap Shot Artist]

Seriously, K.J. looks slower than some of the offensive lineman.

The real problem are the receivers. We're not going to the playoffs with Keyshawn and Glenn as our two main options through the air.

Well, that and the fact that Bledsoe needs 5 seconds to throw the ball, and our line gives him 2.

I don't even know why I was slightly optimistic about this season.

According to Jon Gruden, yes

When teams were inquiring about trading for him Gruden was vehement that he was a 5.0 guy back in late '03 (during his suspension)

 

[Fan Since 77]

According to Jon Gruden, yes

When teams were inquiring about trading for him Gruden was vehement that he was a 5.0 guy back in late '03 (during his suspension)

I thought I heard that somewhere. Thanks

 

[Cajuncowboy]

I don't even know why I was slightly optimistic about this season.

Wow. Talk about bailing out on a season a bit early. At least wait until the pre season is over before you start making draft plans.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Geez, let's see. A coach and player have a complete falling out. The coach and player are both rather hot headed. They both talk poorly of each other.

Does anyone think that there is the possibility that Gruden was exxagerating?

Besides, speed has never been a big part of Key's game. It is all about size and creating tough matchups for smaller corners.

 

[Cheap Shot Artist]

Geez, let's see. A coach and player have a complete falling out. The coach and player are both rather hot headed. They both talk poorly of each other.

Does anyone think that there is the possibility that Gruden was exxagerating?

Besides, speed has never been a big part of Key's game. It is all about size and creating tough matchups for smaller corners.

Agreed 100%

Personally, I dont think he was exagerating very much at all when it comes to a 40 time Key was a 4.6 guy 9 years ago coming out of USC

As long as the guy can continue to get open in the short to intermediate game and move the chains, he'll continue to be useful

 

[big dog cowboy]

Seriously, K.J. looks slower than some of the offensive lineman.

Well, that position is a little (ok a lot!) extreme. He is not a burner. But then, neither was Jerry Rice. The big part of the game with Key is body positioning to shield the defenders from the ball and run blocking. His size allows the QB to throw the ball to him in places where the defenders can't get to. He presents match-up problems with smurf CB's. He is a great possession WR that blocks well on running plays.

 

[Fan Since 77]

Well, that position is a little (ok a lot!) extreme. He is not a burner. But then, neither was Jerry Rice. The big part of the game with Key is body positioning to shield the defenders from the ball and run blocking. His size allows the QB to throw the ball to him in places where the defenders can't get to. He presents match-up problems with smurf CB's. He is a great possession WR that blocks well on running plays.

Ok I'll agree, he's a possession WR. So combine him with Glenn and we have two possession WR's. Where is the speed guy that Bledsoe can lob 60 yard bombs downfield too? That would help in situations like 3rd and 50

 

[big dog cowboy]

Ok I'll agree, he's a possession WR. So combine him with Glenn and we have two possession WR's. Where is the speed guy that Bledsoe can lob 60 yard bombs downfield too? That would help in situations like 3rd and 50

Glenn is easily on the the top 5-7 speed guys in the league. This is a fact not an opinion. When he went down, defences completely changed the way they played against us last year. He is not a track guy playing football either. He is a football player who is extremely fast.

 

[smashmouth]

How is his quickness? That's what you need when coming out of a break. Even if you're slow, if when you make your cuts (in's outs slants) and you are quick (not fast), you can lose your man for a couple of seconds. (long enough to get the ball in there)
Now if you ask him to burn a guy down the field, it will not happen.

 

[dougonthebench]

Wow. Talk about bailing out on a season a bit early. At least wait until the pre season is over before you start making draft plans.

no kidding,at this rate,we'll have the first overall pick.

 

[Billy Bullocks]

Seriously, K.J. looks slower than some of the offensive lineman.

The real problem are the receivers. We're not going to the playoffs with Keyshawn and Glenn as our two main options through the air.

Well, that and the fact that Bledsoe needs 5 seconds to throw the ball, and our line gives him 2.

I don't even know why I was slightly optimistic about this season.

MY GOSH! HAHA. Slow down partnuh. First off, Glenn looked good. Keyshawn was never a burner. I dont think he lost a step from last year, and he put up 70 catches and 980 yards. Not bad.

AND, Witten is probably the main option through the air. Seriously, wait til the pre season ends before you curse the season. Wait, maybe you should wait til a point in the season occurs that should have you thinking its a done deal. I dont expect to encounter that point this year at all. but if we do, then I will be ready to talk about a lost season.

Matter of fact, stop the negative energy..all you haters

 

[mavsfan2121]

Johnson catches the ball in traffic and never lets his man get a pick when the ball is near.

We had a burner in Galloway and I was never that impressed.

If speed made good receivers we would have cut Irvin for Alexander Wright.

I watched Mike Williams in the Detroit game and he reminded me so much of Johnson. He didnt have to be open to be open. He is smart uses his body well and makes the catch with or without a defender on him. Keyshawn is much the same way and I bet Keyshawn beats Williams in a foot race. Williams looked extremely slow to me but he again unlike a speed guy he is open all the time.

 

[scottsp]

Route running. Straight line speed is not as important for a WR, especially one of Keyshawn's size. Though, it does look as if he may be going through the motions during preseason games. It's not an area of concern for me.

 

[jimmy40]

Seriously, K.J. looks slower than some of the offensive lineman.

The real problem are the receivers. We're not going to the playoffs with Keyshawn and Glenn as our two main options through the air.

Well, that and the fact that Bledsoe needs 5 seconds to throw the ball, and our line gives him 2.

I don't even know why I was slightly optimistic about this season.

Bledsoe and KJ are match made in heaven. It takes one 5 seconds to throw the ball and the other 5 seconds to get open.

 

[jimmy40]

Johnson catches the ball in traffic and never lets his man get a pick when the ball is near.

We had a burner in Galloway and I was never that impressed.

If speed made good receivers we would have cut Irvin for Alexander Wright.

I watched Mike Williams in the Detroit game and he reminded me so much of Johnson. He didnt have to be open to be open. He is smart uses his body well and makes the catch with or without a defender on him. Keyshawn is much the same way and I bet Keyshawn beats Williams in a foot race. Williams looked extremely slow to me but he again unlike a speed guy he is open all the time.

No way Keyshawn can outrun Williams and as for Keyshawn never letting his man get a pick obviously you missed last season.

 

[Teague31]

the problem is the o-line, not the receivers