Does Randy Gregory even care?

[Buzzbait]

If he was putting his life before anything he'd quit smoking dope.

There's a reason it's called dope.

 

[Sydla]

How many snaps has Gregory taken for us since we drafted him? There's your answer. Where is he now? still suspended ,unavailable and hasn't asked for reinstatement yet. That's telling. What good is loyalty if said player isn't here and available? Zeke , where is he? How do ya think he will function with the new playbook without having been in camp learning and getting chemistry down? YUP...again, theres why Jerry's Loyalty has failed the team. Love Zeke, he's been awesome...but he is letting the team down. Business is business, but it could have waited til next year.

Again, I am not sure how loyalty is the issue here.

 

[Cowboys1fan]

Yeah, just what our screwed up society needs. More self medicated morons that aren’t equipped to be adults because they weren’t awarded enough participation trophies.

Lol that has nothing to do with anything. Weed is better than opiates, anti depressants etc. getting a trophy growing up has absolutely nothing to do with someone smoking weed.

 

[kskboys]

You don't think both Irving and Gregory have mental health issues? They're more alike than they aren't.

Both are great guys off the field. Super interviews. Bright and funny. Very likable dudes with massive football talent. Seem to have the world by a string.

But a month away from it all, and they go completely dark. Off the deep end.

Bipolarity? Sociopathic (which 10% of people are)? Deeply depressed? All of the above?

But we're told this was a missed test.

Shouldn't they cut this guy loose and never mind? Get him set up for help, but let him go.

Since he's not taking up a roster spot or salary cap room, I simply don't care. Hope he gets the right help.

 

[Sydla]

wrong. Loyalty hurts when you don't understand when to say when and give it up. No matter how talented a player is. Hurts the team just the same.

How does standing by Gregory hurt the team? You have still not laid out the rationalization behind suggesting that the Cowboys backing Gregory here "hurts" the team. I mean they clearly aren't banking on him for certain. They went out and traded for Quinn as insurance. They drafted a DE in Jackson. So again, where's the downside here?

 

[BourbonBalz]

The ONLY reason Gregory hasn’t been cut is that the FO spent a second round pick on him and they don’t want to admit it was a bad move. They don’t want to look bad, but they fail to realize they already do when it comes to this move. Gregory has rarely been on the field, and when he has played he’s been underwhelming. He’s just not worth the distraction, publicity, or the effort.

 

[erod]

Lolol in 50 years weed will be normal for everyone’s use. It’s not a bad thing

I was told by a prominent neurologist (and I admit that he's a neighbor friend) that once marijuana use becomes frequent and regular for someone, their emotional maturity stops at that point. They struggle with employment, money management, relationships, parenting, and just daily responsibilities.

I can think of several people I've known that fit that description perfectly. They're still stuck in the 80s and 90s and have essentially gone nowhere.

There are exceptions, but not many.

 

[Rayman70]

How does standing by Gregory hurt the team? You have still not laid out the rationalization behind suggesting that the Cowboys backing Gregory here "hurts" the team. I mean they clearly aren't banking on him for certain. They went out and traded for Quinn as insurance. They drafted a DE in Jackson. So again, where's the downside here?

NOT BEING AVAILABLE IS HOW. Serves the team no purpose. Quinn is questionable already for week 1..lets face it. We are thin.

 

[Rayman70]

How does standing by Gregory hurt the team? You have still not laid out the rationalization behind suggesting that the Cowboys backing Gregory here "hurts" the team. I mean they clearly aren't banking on him for certain. They went out and traded for Quinn as insurance. They drafted a DE in Jackson. So again, where's the downside here?

let me lay it out: IS HE HERE AND AVAILABLE? NO. How does that help the team? answer...it doesn't. Hope that helps. your welcome. NEXT.

 

[kskboys]

The ONLY reason Gregory hasn’t been cut is that the FO spent a second round pick on him and they don’t want to admit it was a bad move. They don’t want to look bad, but they fail to realize they already do when it comes to this move. Gregory has rarely been on the field, and when he has played he’s been underwhelming. He’s just not worth the distraction, publicity, or the effort.

And because he doesn't cost a roster spot. I simply don't care if we try to help him on a personal level. Good for us.

What I do want is for us to have learned when a top 10 talent slips to the 2nd round, it's mostly not a good idea to take him.

 

[Sydla]

You don't think both Irving and Gregory have mental health issues? They're more alike than they aren't.

Both are great guys off the field. Super interviews. Bright and funny. Very likable dudes with massive football talent. Seem to have the world by a string.

But a month away from it all, and they go completely dark. Off the deep end.

Bipolarity? Sociopathic (which 10% of people are)? Deeply depressed? All of the above?

But we're told this was a missed test.

Shouldn't they cut this guy loose and never mind? Get him set up for help, but let him go.

No, I don't think Irving really has mental issues, at least on the level of Gregory. Two, Gregory has at least sought out treatment and help and Irving never has. Instead, Irving decided to say screw you to the Cowboys and the league and blamed THEM for his problems. Gregory has never, ever done that. He's also taken responsibility for what he's done and blamed no one else.

Why do they need to cut Gregory loose? You have failed time and time again to lay out the argument for why cutting him is the best option.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

Gregory is probably hitting the bong as we speak !

Ohhh, poor guy !, the emotional problems !

 

[kskboys]

Lol that has nothing to do with anything. Weed is better than opiates, anti depressants etc. getting a trophy growing up has absolutely nothing to do with someone smoking weed.

Especially if you don't care for success and productivity.

 

[Rayman70]

SYDIA, not tryin to bust your balls here lol...but you seriously counting on a rookie in Joe Jackson or even Jelks to get any significant reps in games? We haven't even completed camp yet or played a preseason game. That's a HUGE risk in using that logic. Rookies at that position rarely contribute in year 1.

 

[Rayman70]

Gregory is probably hitting the bong as we speak !

Ohhh, poor guy !, the emotional problems !

yup..I'm sad...

 

[Sydla]

let me lay it out: IS HE HERE AND AVAILABLE? NO. How does that help the team? answer...it doesn't. Hope that helps. your welcome. NEXT.

But if the team isn't holding a roster spot open for him and/or cutting an equal or better player to hold open a spot, again why cut him? How are you not getting this? They actually did the opposite............. they traded for Quinn as insurance for Gregory AND they drafted Jackson.

So again, explain how standing by Gregory and hoping he might come back hurts the team? Oh we might have to cut Taco to make room for him down the road? Ohhh, that's gonna hurt.

LOL.

 

[Rayman70]

the movie IDIOCRACY sums up the logic or lack thereof on the loyalty to Randy Gregory.

 

[BourbonBalz]

Lol that has nothing to do with anything. Weed is better than opiates, anti depressants etc. getting a trophy growing up has absolutely nothing to do with someone smoking weed.

Apparently you didn’t get it. People that constantly use any drug are using it for a coping mechanism. We’ve become a society that is too pussified to handle day to day issues. If something doesn’t go right in many peoples’ lives, they just can’t handle it. They self medicate, act out in various ways, etc. Far too many people today have an entitled attitude and can’t handle any type of failure or setback. In other words, “the participation trophy generation”. It’s pathetic.

 

[Rayman70]

oh Lord Sydia lol...I told you. Its not complicated at all.

 

[Sydla]

SYDIA, not tryin to bust your balls here lol...but you seriously counting on a rookie in Joe Jackson or even Jelks to get any significant reps in games? We haven't even completed camp yet or played a preseason game. That's a HUGE risk in using that logic. Rookies at that position rarely contribute in year 1.

You are all over the place. You are basically making the argument now that they probably should stick with Gregory and try to get him back because Jelks and Jackson aren't good enough. So in that sense, then yeah, they should probably stick by Gregory and hope he gets reinstated.

In reality, the Cowboys went out and traded for Quinn, largely because of the issues facing Gregory.

 

[Rayman70]

You are all over the place. You are basically making the argument now that they probably should stick with Gregory and try to get him back because Jelks and Jackson aren't good enough. So in that sense, then yeah, they should probably stick by Gregory and hope he gets reinstated.

In reality, the Cowboys went out and traded for Quinn, largely because of the issues facing Gregory.

no...I'm saying we need to cut bait if he isn't getting his act together enough to help us now. I'm also saying, we better make a move if at all possible for some further depth at the position...preferably not a green rookie.