Does the winner of Eagles vs Giants have the best QB in the NFC east?

[Macnalty]

I am anointing Drew with his lack of receivers and running game as the Prince of Passes this year in the NFC. I personally like Donovan better as the man in the east, Eli has won the big game winning the Super Bowl gave him some instant credit but it only covers your warts for one season. I know who we have sacked more, does that make him a worse QB, step back off the edge Romo lovers, can you start to see it is not all about the QB if you have one that limits mistakes you get to play another game. It was easy to note the lack of good QB play on Saturday, Hey Tony teasers is he is as good as Jake, Joe, Kurt, and Kerry? I think 3rd best in the east can still win the Superbowl. Easy to see he needs someone to push him to play better, not Tebow. Imagining would I be any less proud getting to the Superbowl with a bus driver, one can only live so long and my excuse bucket is so low on media ( TO , RW 38, and some coaching stuff left). Just noticed how the best QB in the east means little, the Greyhound driver has a nice ring...Go cowboys

 

[Tom [Giants fan]]

I think the winner of this game has the best team.

 

[Kaika]

I think the winner of this game has the best team.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I love how that we went through 17 starting QBs between Aikman and Romo and all the fans were demanding "a franchise QB like Aikman or Staubach" and now all of a suddden a "bus driver" is now what is needed.

We would go 2-14 next year without Romo, HE IS THE TEAM!!!!

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I personally like Donovan better as the man in the east, Eli has won the big game winning the Super Bowl gave him some instant credit but it only covers your warts for one season.

I know who we have sacked more, does that make him a worse QB, step back off the edge Romo lovers, can you start to see it is not all about the QB if you have one that limits mistakes you get to play another game.

It was easy to note the lack of good QB play on Saturday, Hey Tony teasers is he is as good as Jake, Joe, Kurt, and Kerry?

I think 3rd best in the east can still win the Superbowl. Easy to see he needs someone to push him to play better, not Tebow. Imagining would I be any less proud getting to the Superbowl with a bus driver, one can only live so long and my excuse bucket is so low on media ( TO , RW 38, and some coaching stuff left). Just noticed how the best QB in the east means little, the Greyhound driver has a nice ring...Go cowboys

Its not all about the QB WHEN he gives his team a chance to win throughout the game. Its all about the QB when the QB makes it all about him.

So far... Eli has made it all about team = SB win
Romo and McNabb have made it all about them = SB wannabe / SB loser

I think the winner of this game has the best team.

Yep... the Giants could win and I bet McNabb has better stats than Eli. It dont mean a thing. Only the W.

 

[Macnalty]

Its not all about the QB WHEN he gives his team a chance to win throughout the game. Its all about the QB when the QB makes it all about him.

So far... Eli has made it all about team = SB win
Romo and McNabb have made it all about them = SB wannabe / SB loser




Yep... the Giants could win and I bet McNabb has better stats than Eli. It dont mean a thing. Only the W.

How do you see the games turning out today Mick? Heard the weather was a little nasty.

 

[Chuck 54]

Despite the homorism around here, both are top QBs.

I hate Eli's goofy smirk, but even when we beat him in that last game, he threw some perfect passes on ropes in the perfect spots for receptions with our defenders hanging on the receivers...the boy can get hot and at his best is definitely better than Romo at his best.

I've always been a McNabb supporter because he's won more in our division with the worst receivers and very little of a running game for years...when he's on, he's a great QB who is a freakin' load to bring down...he avoids the rush every bit as well as Romo and doesn't fumble everytime he gets hit.

Now, that said, Romo is also a very good QB, better than most of the starters in the NFL, and he's still relatively inexperiences as a starter...Romo has not peaked yet...he's learning, and he'll get better. His accuracy suffered the whole end of the season, and I think that will improve when his finger is 100%.

 

[Chuck 54]

Of all the guys Romo and Garrett could both learn from, I'd say look at the Ravens and Flacco. The guy was only 3-8 for about 50 yards at halftime, but he didn't make any mistakes...his coach didn't give him a chance.

That's the same way Baltimore beat Dallas...the guy wasn't allowed to pass until they reached midfield where a turnover wouldn't kill them.

Baltimore relies on their defense and only gives Flacco limited chances to throw the ball. I'm not saying Romo should be that limited, but if our defense has turned the corner and will continue to play as well or better next year, then I think we should play more conservatively on offense.

The OC should not give Romo the opportunities to screw up, and Romo needs to learn to play a smarter game. I like that philosophy joked about last night...when you have a great defense, any series that ends with a punt is a good series.

With a very good defense finally on the field for Dallas, Romo should be throwing about 25 times a game, max. Aikman never won passing awards because he seldom put the ball up more than 20-25 times a game. Phil Simms won SB MVP with very few passes thrown...Romo needs to be reined in....if the defense plays tough.

 

[theogt]

X2

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

How do you see the games turning out today Mick? Heard the weather was a little nasty.

Good football weather.



I am hoping for a Giants/Eagles tie so neither can advance to next round.

 

[BIGDen]

I love how that we went through 17 starting QBs between Aikman and Romo and all the fans were demanding "a franchise QB like Aikman or Staubach" and now all of a suddden a "bus driver" is now what is needed.

We would go 2-14 next year without Romo, HE IS THE TEAM!!!!

Amen. What would Eli have done on the Cowboys this year? Inconsistent rushing and pass protection would have gotten him killed. We saw what happened to Eli against Dallas in game 2 this year. 0 TDs 2 INT..horrible numbers and 8 sacks! Romo is not perfect, but I still take him over any NFC East QB.

 

[BourbonBalz]

I love how that we went through 17 starting QBs between Aikman and Romo and all the fans were demanding "a franchise QB like Aikman or Staubach" and now all of a suddden a "bus driver" is now what is needed.

We would go 2-14 next year without Romo, HE IS THE TEAM!!!!

Unfortunately, the coaching staff's offensive scheme has forced him to be the team. Like I posted in another thread, if we want to get in the playoffs and make a run, we need to do one thing. RUN THE DAMN BALL EFFECTIVELY. We have to work on our run game this off-season and use what I think is the best and most talented threesome in the NFL. Coach our O line to use their strength and size as road graders. We haven't been effective in our run game because we throw the ball too much and our O linemen are always in a defensive position pass blocking. Mindset change is needed.

 

[CF74]

At this point I'd take Eli in the post season but McNabb is a better qb during the regular season. Weird I know but it is what it is..

 

[Tom [Giants fan]]

Good football weather.



I am hoping for a Giants/Eagles tie so neither can advance to next round.

Don't let McNabb see this. You may confuse him more.

I could never get enough of making fun of that.

 

[RedRaiderCowboysFan]

Amen. What would Eli have done on the Cowboys this year? Inconsistent rushing and pass protection would have gotten him killed. We saw what happened to Eli against Dallas in game 2 this year. 0 TDs 2 INT..horrible numbers and 8 sacks! Romo is not perfect, but I still take him over any NFC East QB.

Eli would have the Cowboys in the playoffs right now. The pass protection wasnt horrible for romo, he just holds onto the ball way to long and waits for his receivers to break wide open before he makes a throw, because he isnt accurate enough unless the receivers are wide open. Eli however, without his top target is throwing to receivers who cant break wide open consistently, but can still get the ball into tight spots with a quick release, so imangine what he could do throwing to Owens, Roy, and Witten. If the Cowboys gave up 8 sacks, you wouldnt say that is on romo like you are Eli, so that is a baseless argument only based on opinion and bias. And perhaps the Giants running game was more consistent because of the threat of Eli making an accurate pass downfield without receivers that are wide open.

It seems like so many are more concerned with wanting to look smart saying, see I told you the cowboys would win with romo, instead of looking at it for what it is. There are lots of great players and teams outside of the Cowboys, and just because they are a Cowboy doesnt make them the best. And for those who say romo is just so talented, there is nothing to base that off of other then stats, and those who use stats to make an argument that somebody is so good is completely flawed.

Lets see, Eli, Mcnabb, Rivers, Roethlisberger, and Flacco are all left, and all were high first round picks with the exception of Kurt Warner. It isnt a coincidence that all these teams have qb's that were drafted in the first round and played within their first season execpt Rivers who sat for 1 year. Thats the reason the Cowboys arnet in the playoffs and havent won a playoff game in 13 years. When they get smart and draft a qb in the first round (brady Quinn) then perhaps they will be back on top. And the argumet saying romo is the best since Aikman, that isnt saying much. Its the same as saying which trash smells the best, the point is its all trash and they all stink, just like all the qbs the Cowboys have had since Aikman including romo.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I still think McNabb is the best overall QB in the NFC East...

 

[cowboyrock]

Eli would have the Cowboys in the playoffs right now. The pass protection wasnt horrible for romo, he just holds onto the ball way to long and waits for his receivers to break wide open before he makes a throw, because he isnt accurate enough unless the receivers are wide open. Eli however, without his top target is throwing to receivers who cant break wide open consistently, but can still get the ball into tight spots with a quick release, so imangine what he could do throwing to Owens, Roy, and Witten. If the Cowboys gave up 8 sacks, you wouldnt say that is on romo like you are Eli, so that is a baseless argument only based on opinion and bias. And perhaps the Giants running game was more consistent because of the threat of Eli making an accurate pass downfield without receivers that are wide open.

It seems like so many are more concerned with wanting to look smart saying, see I told you the cowboys would win with romo, instead of looking at it for what it is. There are lots of great players and teams outside of the Cowboys, and just because they are a Cowboy doesnt make them the best. And for those who say romo is just so talented, there is nothing to base that off of other then stats, and those who use stats to make an argument that somebody is so good is completely flawed.

Lets see, Eli, Mcnabb, Rivers, Roethlisberger, and Flacco are all left, and all were high first round picks with the exception of Kurt Warner. It isnt a coincidence that all these teams have qb's that were drafted in the first round and played within their first season execpt Rivers who sat for 1 year. Thats the reason the Cowboys arnet in the playoffs and havent won a playoff game in 13 years. When they get smart and draft a qb in the first round (brady Quinn) then perhaps they will be back on top. And the argumet saying romo is the best since Aikman, that isnt saying much. Its the same as saying which trash smells the best, the point is its all trash and they all stink, just like all the qbs the Cowboys have had since Aikman including romo.

Bingo! right on the money.

 

[BIGDen]

Do you really think Romo would have been sacked 8 times? Do you not acknowledge that a great running game makes life SO MUCH easier for a QB? As far as your inane accuracy comments, check the facts man. This is the first year he has gotten a rating over 80! A big part of that is his yards per attempt which takes into account accuracy and distance. Romo completes a higher percentage and throws for longer gains. Eli has always had weapons too: Tiki, Shockey, Burress and good protection. Put the two on the same team and, I believe, Romo does more. As far as turnovers, didn't Eli lead the league in 07? Romo is not the problem.

 

[RedRaiderCowboysFan]

Do you really think Romo would have been sacked 8 times? Do you not acknowledge that a great running game makes life SO MUCH easier for a QB? As far as your inane accuracy comments, check the facts man. This is the first year he has gotten a rating over 80! A big part of that is his yards per attempt which takes into account accuracy and distance. Romo completes a higher percentage and throws for longer gains. Eli has always had weapons too: Tiki, Shockey, Burress and good protection. Put the two on the same team and, I believe, Romo does more. As far as turnovers, didn't Eli lead the league in 07? Romo is not the problem.

Yea if your receivers are wide open almost every play, your completion percentage will be high, but that doesnt mean a qb is accurate if they can hit a wide open receiver, its about making an accurate pass consistently if a receiver is covered. So yea since Owens and Witten always seem to be wide open, which opens it up for the rest of the receivers and his stats will be pretty. With the protection he usually gets that is overlooked by an occasional breakdown, it gives TO time to run down the field wide open. And it helps when you can make a pass that goes maybe 1 or 2 yards like against the Cardinals and players like Barber and Crayton can turn that dump off pass into a long td, which isnt a reflection of the qb but the receiver. Plays like that makes your rating go up higher. And yes a running game does make it easier, but there still has to be the threat of a passing game, and since the Giants dont have their deep threat and the running game is still great, that must mean that Eli can still strike down the field without his best receiver. If Eli can tae his team this far without thier best pass rusher and receiver, and romo cant succeed with his, how good do you think the Cowboys would be without Owens and Ware? The record wouldnt even be close to sniffing the playoffs without those 2 becaues the qb isnt good enough without having som of the best players in the NFL carrying the load, somethig romo cant do on his frail little shoulders.

And the Giants won the Super Bowl after Tiki retired and Shockey missed the last several regular season games and the playoffs. Also, Eli has done well this year without thier best pass rushers because of injury and retirement, plus Burress being out for most of the year.

And finally, last year yes Eli had 20 ints, and romo had 19. Perhaps romo finished with more overall turnovers with his fumbling problem.

So yea, romo is the problem.