Does this team lack the championship experience?

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Outside of Garrett, Campo, and Houck's rings from the dynasty - I'm having a hard time thinking of any players or coaches on our team with Super Bowl experience. I know Robinson just won one.

But the point I'm making and I want to bring it up to you guys to discuss, is perhaps the reason this team hasn't been able to really take their game to the next level is because they haven't had guys with real playoff and championship experience to help these young guys not to fold when the lights get bright.

I'm not talking a bunch of rah-rah guys like Brooking, but guys that have been there, that know what it takes to succeed, and have the skins on their wall to stand up in the locker room and say something and be respected. Can hold guys accountable and really set a good example, especially to the rookies and younger guys.

Personally I think Garrett of all people knows exactly what it takes playing under Jimmy, behind Troy, around such greatness, etc. I just don't know if our players do, because when a guy stands up, he's got nothing on his hands to back up when he's putting down. That's why you get such locker room dissention, not just from polarizing guys like Owens in the past, but from younger guys like Choice, Bennett, etc that can call out teammates and do stupid stuff and never get checked for it.

Pardon the rant, just a thought. Discuss.
 
I think it counts if you're a player who won a college championship or came from a winning program full of tradition.
 
Packers? Saints? Who did they have with a superbowl win?
 
Nope, what this team lacks is play making on the defensive side of the ball. Hopefully they get some of that from Spencer, Butler, Lee or Elam to name a few. If they cant muster up some defense they can beat any one in this league.
 
otero1;4066311 said:
How do you think the guy's that have "been there", got there?
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I know it all has to start somewhere, but it's not like these guys even have much playoff experience at all. Their only memories in the playoffs are collapses and disappointment. Things start to go bad they all look around like here we go again.

The Packers players didn't have Super Bowl experience but they brought in a quality veteran in Charles Woodson and he immediately made them a better team.

Outside of Brooking, who no longer can back up his words on the field, we don't really have any guy like that on this team.

You have to have a good mix of youth and vets, and for a few years now I think this team has lacked some quality veteran experience.
 
The 2007 Colts didnt have anyone with Superbowl experience except their kicker Adam Vinateri
 
The Giants, with little or no championship experience, beat the Patriots, the veteran team, in the Super Bowl.


The Saints, with little or no championship experience, beat the Colts, the veteran team, in the Super Bowl.


The Packers, with little or no championship experience, beat the Steelers, the veteran team, in the Super Bowl.
 
Who besides Haley had Super Bowl experience on the 90s Cowboys? The entire coaching staff was from college and the team was comprised mostly of really young, green yet talented players. If the current offense plays to its potential and the defense gels under Ryan, this team has a chance to go deep into the playoffs and, yes, win the Super Bowl.
 
Boyzmamacita;4066372 said:
Who besides Haley had Super Bowl experience on the 90s Cowboys? The entire coaching staff was from college and the team was comprised mostly of really young, green yet talented players. If the current offense plays to its potential and the defense gels under Ryan, this team has a chance to go deep into the playoffs and, yes, win the Super Bowl.
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I'm perfectly aware that we're talented, and I understand that teams have won super bowls in the past without any guys without championship experience.

But for this team in particular, after some of the ways they've had the past 5 seasons end, you start to wonder if they are almost expecting to lose instead of believing they're going to win.

This team has such a fragile psyche, you can see it in their faces and body language late in games, it's almost as if they expect something bad is going to happen and their going to lose.

I just don't see a guy on either side of the ball they can look to when things are on the line for leadership, or a guy that backs up all that rah-rah talk with some big plays.

Everyone said Brooking was a great addition but it was about 10 years too late performance wise, I think we need a guy on defense like that that is still in his prime with some clout that can back up his play and challenge a lot of these underachieving young guys.
 
They lacked people to block Justin Tuck and Ray Edwards.

All that hippie rah-rah sideline BS only works if your Ray Lewis. I cant think of another player who brings out something extra in his teammates than him.
 
Jerry must've agreed with me, he tried to pay a 31 year old CB 10 mil per.

MarionBarberThe4th;4066382 said:
They lacked people to block Justin Tuck and Ray Edwards.

All that hippie rah-rah sideline BS only works if your Ray Lewis. I cant think of another player who brings out something extra in his teammates than him.
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C'mon dude.

Brady, Manning, Willis, Urlacher, Dawkins, Woodson, Fletcher, Tuck, Brees, etc.

Those are guys that popped into my mind when I thought of leadership. It's not always about being a rah-rah guy, it's about being a guy that can set an example and back up either the coaches' philosophy or his talk with his play.
 
Apollo Creed;4066387 said:
Jerry must've agreed with me, he tried to pay a 31 year old CB 10 mil per.



C'mon dude.

Brady, Manning, Willis, Urlacher, Dawkins, Woodson, Fletcher, Tuck, Brees, etc.

Those are guys that popped into my mind when I thought of leadership. It's not always about being a rah-rah guy, it's about being a guy that can set an example and back up either the coaches' philosophy or his talk with his play.
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I dont see them bringing anything special out of anyone. I dont see guys talking about them even when theyre gone. Or as a reason to sign up because they just cant not bring it with that guy there. Have Willis and Fletcher ever even made the playoffs? Most of this stuff is just for show. Eli Manning gets laughed at in his huddle and he has a ring and his team was extremely well coached and tough in their SB run. He is also not fiery and not a guy who routinely makes good decisions.

Dawkins comes close, I do think the Eagles lost a little something when he left. I would rather play the 2011 version of Philly than Dawkins' version.


MarionBarberThe4th;4066382 said:
They lacked people to block Justin Tuck and Ray Edwards.

All that hippie rah-rah sideline BS only works if your Ray Lewis. I cant think of another player who brings out something extra in his teammates than him.
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*you're.
 
The problem with the Cowboys is they can never stay focused and thats why we always find ourselves asking how we lost a game that we were clearly the better team in.


The Cowboys start winning a few games, they feel entitled, and lose all focus.
 
agreed catch17. The "RHG" is trying to change the overall entitlement mentality to a work for eveything you get. Wades approach bread that kind of mentality. The players better by into or they will get replaced. prossman
 
Did the Pack have Championship experience? The Saints?

I cant think of one player on those teams that did....
 
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