Don’t overvalue Cole Beasley

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I don’t know if he would agree to a 2 yr 7 mil deal
I’d do that but not sure he would
They tried to extend him and couldn’t get it done
I don’t think what they were offering was anything like Twill deal. I suspect it was better
At age 30 I dont see anyone offering him more than 4yr 25m. He probably has more value to Dallas than any other team in the league. Offer him a little more up front on a back loaded deal they can walk away from the last 2 years. His frame I doubt he last more than 2 years!
 

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At age 30 I dont see anyone offering him more than 4yr 25m. He probably has more value to Dallas than any other team in the league. Offer him a little more up front on a back loaded deal they can walk away from the last 2 years. His frame I doubt he last more than 2 years!
Not sure I’d give 6 mil a yr for him and I like what he does
Wish we had kept Switzer
 

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Here’s my problem with Tavon as “the” slot man- he’s missed 19 games in six seasons. One of the biggest abilities in pro football is “availability”. That groin injury he had this year was bad enough to consider surgery. Those kind of injuries tend to come back.

He may be worth signing but it would have to be on the cheap and I don’t see him as 50-60 reception slot guy. In his six years in the league he has only caught 50 or more passes two seasons. I like Tavon but we could do better at the slot.

Agreed on most. Question is why hasn't he been more prominent in the slot during his career? Injuries aside what could it be? He has great quickness in space, runs great routes, has to be the hands
 

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Agreed on most. Question is why hasn't he been more prominent in the slot during his career? Injuries aside what could it be? He has great quickness in space, runs great routes, has to be the hands
That’s a fair question. I think Austin struggled early in his career to be a good route runner. In college at West Virginia, he just ran short lazy routes and relied on his speed to get yards. In the NFL, suddenly almost everyone is fast and you have to rely on being a disciplined route runner.
 

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Not sure I’d give 6 mil a yr for him and I like what he does
Wish we had kept Switzer
Beasley had 65 receptions this season and I believe someone said over 30 were for a 1st down. Hurns had 20 rec and is on tap for almost 7m next year and I'm guessing that injury ain't gonna help his lack of speed. I'd just assume give Beasley both TWills and Hurns money if that what it takes.
It was painfully obvious to me Switzer was nowhere in the league Beasley is in and I believe he'll be out of the league in 2 years!
 

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How many in the league can replace him? Can one be acquired via trade, FA or draft and what's that cost vs another contract to him.

We have a #1 and #2 with depth albeit depth can get better. There is no other SL on our team who compares.
 

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Stupid idea here.....how good are Jeff Heath's hands? We keep hearing about all the positions he played in High School....what about the slot? He appears to be the fastest guy on the team, who's career as a DB seems to be ending soon. Beasley runs away from nobody anymore.
 

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He is the last in line for extensions if I run the team. No offense, thanks for the Giants game, but you are 29 and frankly not that dynamic.
 

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Before I start, let me say up front that I like Cole Beasley and what he’s done as a Cowboy in his his 7 year NFL career. He has been a good, solid slot receiver. Good. Not great. Most dedicated fans of any team unfortunately tend to overvalue a player they love, blinding them to the details of his performance.

And for that simple reason, along with several others, Cole Beasley should not be resigned here for the future. Let me get specific about the reasons why we should not overvalue Cole Beasley.

1. HIS STATS ARE JUST AVERAGE.
In his 7 years as a Cowboys slot receiver, in 103 games, Cole Beasley has caught 319 passes for 3,271 yards and 23 TDs. That means for his career, Beas averaged 3 catches for 31 yards per game, and averaged 3.2 TDs per season.

Some would argue that his first 2 years in the league he wasn’t a full time player. Ok, let’s take the last 5 seasons then. His 5 year average in 79 games has been 55 receptions for 555 yards. That translates to 3.3 receptions per game for 35 yards in his best 5 years.

Not great.

2. HISBEST YEARSARE BEHIND HIM
Beas will be 30 as he enters the 2019 season. Looking at his career stats above, I can’t see how it could be argued that he will have better statistical years ahead. As we saw in his stats numbers, he is not exceptional in receiving numbers, yardage or TDs.

Unless your name is Jerry Rice or some other rare ageless talent, NFL history is not kind to receivers 30 and older.

3. THERE WILL BE YOUNGER CHEAPER TALENT AVAILABLE IN DRAFT OR FA
It’s not like there aren’t a lot of younger, talented and less expensive players available. One guy I would love to pick up is 26 year old Adam Humphries from Tampa Bay who has consistently been one of the best slot receivers in the NFL. Unfortunately he will probably garner top dollar, like 4 years at $10 mil per year.

But there are several UFAs who are 24-27, have lots of upside, and are not going to garner big bucks. One example is 25 year old Phillip Dorsett who has played with NE last year and caught 32 passes as a 3rd down specialist in NE. Or there’s 26 year old Chris Conley of KC who caught 32 passs from Pat Mahomes for 5 TDs.

Point is, there will be younger, cheaper talent available in FA and the draft.

Bottom line- Unless Cole Beasley is willing to sign for a lot less than has been floated out there, there is no smart reason to resign him here again. Beas has been a good, reliable slot receiver. But if we’re going to pay him more, we should use that money to sign somebody like Adam Humphries who’s younger and more talented.

Right?

Evidently defensive coordinators think much more highly of Beasley than you do since starting last season Beasley saw double coverage quite often. If he was just average at best they wouldn't have double covered him. I'm not saying he's the best slot receiver in the league but he's much better than what most teams have and I'm not writing him off before any negotiating has even started. Last time I checked none of us here has EVER sat in on any contract negotiations with any player so to say now, today, what a player is going to sign for is foolishness.
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I'm confused Bob (and we wouldn't want that) are you saying he's not worth the $$ due to inferior talent or his age? I'm in favor of looking elsewhere like the other posters but where is the accountability of the OC or our QB in this? You believe we can plug in anyone and all of sudden they are getting the ball thrown to them? Was Cole not open enough to get the ball? I see your stats but want to know first why he wasn't getting the ball. Attitude is one thing. Did Dak not throw to him because of that? Hmmmm...

Yes
It's a conspiracy against Beas
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Beasley had 65 receptions this season and I believe someone said over 30 were for a 1st down. Hurns had 20 rec and is on tap for almost 7m next year and I'm guessing that injury ain't gonna help his lack of speed. I'd just assume give Beasley both TWills and Hurns money if that what it takes.
It was painfully obvious to me Switzer was nowhere in the league Beasley is in and I believe he'll be out of the league in 2 years!
Twill is gone
Most likely Hurns is too
If Beasley would sign a 2 yr deal but remember we tried to extend him last year and he wanted paid top slot money
I suspect he’s gonna have to test the market before reality sets in
 

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I don’t overvalue him. He’s replaceable. I don’t even expect a big market for him. But he’s acted like a moron off the field with how he conducts himself....so go get another one.

Beasely will have a huge market. The guy is well known as a WR that moves the chains. A security blanket for Romo and DAK,

Starting to get the pictures the Players are trying to influencing Jerry Jones decisions. If Jerry makes decisions based off Player input and not the coaches this team will fall hard, again. Trust Will McClay to make the right decision good or bad. The Jones are in familiar waters, they find answers to the one and done in the playoffs.

We no who is in charge, but we dont no who Jerry is listening to
 

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Evidently defensive coordinators think much more highly of Beasley than you do since starting last season Beasley saw double coverage quite often. If he was just average at best they wouldn't have double covered him. I'm not saying he's the best slot receiver in the league but he's much better than what most teams have and I'm not writing him off before any negotiating has even started. Last time I checked none of us here has EVER sat in on any contract negotiations with any player so to say now, today, what a player is going to sign for is foolishness.
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As I said at the beginning of my post, I like Cole Beasley and what he’s done here. But does anyone seriously think we can’t replace his 35 yards a game average? That’s the kind of stuff that can be replaced cheaper and younger. Not personal, just the truth.
 

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Only thing that is certain is that wherever he goes he will be more productive by a big margin then when he was here......:(
I don't know about that. He is good short and maybe intermediate threat. while many think he will end up in NE, NE uses their slot guys differently than Dallas did. NE slot guys go all over the field. I could definitely see him playing for WCO team.
 

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I don't know about that. He is good short and maybe intermediate threat. while many think he will end up in NE, NE uses their slot guys differently than Dallas did. NE slot guys go all over the field. I could definitely see him playing for WCO team.

He is a deadly slot receiver....put him in a offense with a franchise QB dude will make the pro-bowl....
 

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He is a deadly slot receiver....put him in a offense with a franchise QB dude will make the pro-bowl....
No he is good slot guy from 1 to 15 yards. He will never make a pro bowl because he is low yac, low TD guy. He cannot win match ups on deep routes consistently to be playmaker. He basically is a TE/possession receiver that is maybe 700-800 yards is his ceiling
 

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Gotta love some fans...

Despite never getting in any actual reported trouble or suspended he acts like a “moron” off the field. And can’t forget the poor body language :rolleyes:

The only factor should be $....and I think he’ll end up being more expensive than what he’s worth to our offense. If he signs with another good team I wouldn’t be shocked if he goes and catches 80+ balls tho
Belichick is already drooling on himself.
 

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Before I start, let me say up front that I like Cole Beasley and what he’s done as a Cowboy in his his 7 year NFL career. He has been a good, solid slot receiver. Good. Not great. Most dedicated fans of any team unfortunately tend to overvalue a player they love, blinding them to the details of his performance.

And for that simple reason, along with several others, Cole Beasley should not be resigned here for the future. Let me get specific about the reasons why we should not overvalue Cole Beasley.

1. HIS STATS ARE JUST AVERAGE.
In his 7 years as a Cowboys slot receiver, in 103 games, Cole Beasley has caught 319 passes for 3,271 yards and 23 TDs. That means for his career, Beas averaged 3 catches for 31 yards per game, and averaged 3.2 TDs per season.

Some would argue that his first 2 years in the league he wasn’t a full time player. Ok, let’s take the last 5 seasons then. His 5 year average in 79 games has been 55 receptions for 555 yards. That translates to 3.3 receptions per game for 35 yards in his best 5 years.

Not great.

2. HISBEST YEARSARE BEHIND HIM
Beas will be 30 as he enters the 2019 season. Looking at his career stats above, I can’t see how it could be argued that he will have better statistical years ahead. As we saw in his stats numbers, he is not exceptional in receiving numbers, yardage or TDs.

Unless your name is Jerry Rice or some other rare ageless talent, NFL history is not kind to receivers 30 and older.

3. THERE WILL BE YOUNGER CHEAPER TALENT AVAILABLE IN DRAFT OR FA
It’s not like there aren’t a lot of younger, talented and less expensive players available. One guy I would love to pick up is 26 year old Adam Humphries from Tampa Bay who has consistently been one of the best slot receivers in the NFL. Unfortunately he will probably garner top dollar, like 4 years at $10 mil per year.

But there are several UFAs who are 24-27, have lots of upside, and are not going to garner big bucks. One example is 25 year old Phillip Dorsett who has played with NE last year and caught 32 passes as a 3rd down specialist in NE. Or there’s 26 year old Chris Conley of KC who caught 32 passs from Pat Mahomes for 5 TDs.

Point is, there will be younger, cheaper talent available in FA and the draft.

Bottom line- Unless Cole Beasley is willing to sign for a lot less than has been floated out there, there is no smart reason to resign him here again. Beas has been a good, reliable slot receiver. But if we’re going to pay him more, we should use that money to sign somebody like Adam Humphries who’s younger and more talented.

Right?
Everything you say is true. But if we can get him back on a reasonable contract it would be in our best interest.
 

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Point #2 is why I would not break the bank for him. Beasley has some gas in the tank, but he is starting to breakdown. We should pay top dollar for past performances.
 
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