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Avenging Hayseed;2737008 said:
But I think were drafting Pat White at 51. Gonna use him as a w.r, k.r, and to groom as third string QB. NOT saying I agree with the pick at all. When I work on mocks I set them up as who I THINK the Cowboys will draft, NOT who I WANT the Cowboys to draft. Big difference.

Dang it! Where's my gun? :shoot3: :shoot2: :shoot1:
 

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Monster Heel;2737241 said:
We pick this guy at 51 and I'm turning the draft off.

If we pick that guy before the 4th round I'm turning the draft off....and I'm a Pat White fan. I just don't want him on the Cowboys.
 

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I can see Jerry making a play to get back into the 2nd round to take White, but I don't see him taking him at 51 as our 1st pick
 

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I think they are looking at McGee 5th round area.
 

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Avenging Hayseed;2737219 said:
Ummm, Quiincy Carter, Kavika Pittman, Shante Carver, Dwayne Goodrich, Tony Dixon.....Those names ring a bell maybe?....LOL

The key difference being each of these guys was drafted to play at his college position, which they went on to be busts at. You are suggesting they'll take White and switch his position. Last time I checked, we already got one of those on the roster.
 

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Wow, lots of harsh responses there. I would be surprised if we took him with #51. Not so much if we took him at #69. Someone will take him before the 4th round.
 

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RamziD;2737341 said:
Wow, lots of harsh responses there. I would be surprised if we took him with #51. Not so much if we took him at #69. Someone will take him before the 4th round.
.....Yup, the internet has a way of being a HARSH response magnet...LOL Lots of folks eager to bash, to jump on someone. No so much for humility.....:rolleyes:
 

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Why would we draft Pat White?

Would anyone even mention his name if Jerry hadn't thrown out that earlier Wildcat comment?
 

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I got alot of the same type responses last season too, the year before was REAL bad when I was calling for Spencer to be drafted. Dont believe me, go look over the archives.:eek:
 

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And for the THIRD time... As Ive said before...White may well not be who I WOULD draft, he is who I think Jerry will draft. This thread reminds me of one I started last training camp. I was talking about how the Phillips 34 has alot in common with the old Bear 46. How the 2 defenses are somewhat linked.I was told I had no idea what I was talking about. Then of coarse, from mid season on we used a ton of............ TA DA....THE 46 defense. Gotta admit, I lmao!
 

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I believe that we will bring in a QB to experiment with the Wildcat formation and play some WR. Jerry even eluded to it. However, it will not be Pat White. Jerry will be looking at this guy late in the draft or as an undrafted FA:

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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Julian Edelman[/SIZE][/FONT]
College: [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Kent State[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Number: [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]1[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]04/14/09 - The Bears brought in a quarterback to Halas Hall on Monday. But they might have other plans for Julian Edelman. Some clubs believe the Kent State quarterback projects as a wide receiver in the NFL or perhaps a contributor on special teams. He could run the wildcat also after becoming the second quarterback in school history to pass for 1,000 yards and rush for 1,000 yards in the same season. The first? Cleveland Browns electric return man Josh Cribbs. The interest seems genuine. Edelman worked out for the Bears at his school last Thursday and then the club flew him in for a visit to Halas Hall, a trip that likely included a medical evaluation. He is making the rounds this week. According to the Record-Courier, Edelman will visit Miami on Wednesday and San Francisco on Friday, the last day draft prospects can make official visits to clubs. The Dallas Cowboys have reportedly shown interest in Edelman also. He's a shade under 6-foot, 195 pounds and was clocked in the 40-yard dash at his pro day in 4.52 seconds. He's a good athlete with a 10-3 broad jump and a 36 1/2-inch vertical jump. He was a punt returner for the Golden Flashes and also was a safety on the punt team. Teams could be lining up to woo him as a priority free agent based on the late interest. - Brad Biggs, The Chicago Sun Times[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]03/31/09 - KSU quarterback Julian Edelman’s pro stock may be on the rise because of the growing popularity of the Wildcat offense in the NFL. Edelman would give teams a true quarterback with running-back talent to run the set, instead of lining up with an actual running back taking the snap out of the shotgun. The Miami Dolphins, who brought the Wildcat to the NFL last season with running back Ronnie Brown, have already shown an interest in Edelman. The Dallas Cowboys, who are believed to be interested in incorporating a version of the Wildcat into their offense, are also rumored to be looking at the Flashes’ star. Edelman was a guest on Dallas ESPN radio station 103.3 FM just last week. With more and more teams in the traditionally copy-cat league thinking of adding the Wildcat, Edelman could become a bigger commodity than he would have been in previous drafts. - David Carducci, Ravenna Record Courier

[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][SIZE=-2]03/22/09 - KSU quarterback Julian Edelman made a strong impression in his pro day workout March 12. Edelman ran a 4.48-second 40-yard dash, had a vertical leap of 36 1/2 inches and a broad jump of 10 feet, 3 inches. He ran a 3.91-second shuttle; NFL types asked him to run again because they didn't believe the number. Those stats are more than impressive for a guy who is being looked at as an NFL receiver and who, if drafted, would go second day. ''He's a really skilled guy — similar to [Antwaan] Randle El and Seneca Wallace,'' a league insider said. ''He can play 'Wildcat,' return kicks, and he may be the next Wes Welker as a wide receiver.'' High praise, but Kent State has a reputation for producing athletes who go on to succeed in the pros. - Patrick McManamon, The Akron Beacon Journal [/SIZE][/FONT]
 

Chocolate Lab

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I agree on Edelman. We do like him. But that's totally different than spending a second rounder on a conversion project.
 

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Honestly, can all of us really call this bunk?

Hasn't Jerry reached before? I distinctly recall someone on another board (years before this one) giving us news right before the draft that JJ and CO were greatly interested in QC. We all pooh-poohed him off the board.

Sure enough......JJ does the unthinkable.

I hope Jerry has learned his lesson......but he's done too many crazy things in the past for us to ignore this totally.

I thought he'd never again pay a king's ransom in draft choices for a WR. Yet, he did it again this last year.

I've been pleased with our drafts lately. Not all of them turn out....but it seems like we've stuck to our board and not reached.

Hopefully, this move seems as ridiculous to JJ as it does to us.....but I wouldn't put anything past him.

Ever.
 
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