Draft could become a multi-city affair

[Longboysfan]

A. Why on earth do you care where it takes place?

B. This is about making money. The draft was an unrealized revenue source. Now it is a much bigger money maker due to the primetime coverage of the first rounds (rather than later rounds sneaking into primetime).

C. Your preference is meaningless.

A. Yes
B. Double Yes.
C. Well where they can make fresh money every year. Like the Super Bowl site.... Hey Hawaii.....

 

[Clove]

Finally, except just move it to a different City every year. Someone on a Radio station came up with a brilliant idea to have all the draft picks come back on the final day to meet with fans and media. That would be amazing. Bring it to Dallas, I'd go.

 

[AbeBeta]

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The only reason Day 1 isn't the 1st and 2nd rounds is because they want people to watch day 2. By day 3, they don't give a crap, it's just more ad time.

Actually, I think Day 1 isn't the first and 2nd rounds because the league realizes that it would be impossible to start this at 7 EST if you did so. You potentially can go 320 minutes given the time between picks - likely more like 4.5 hours though.

You tack the 2nd round on there and you get another 2.5 hours or so. I doubt very much the league wants to schedule something that ends at about 2 am on the East Coast.

 

[KJJ]

I prefer the draft the way it was on the weekend. It's tough keeping some fans interested after the first round so breaking the draft up over 3 days makes it difficult to keep a large audience coming back for each day. Even as much as I enjoy the draft I DVR the 3rd day and FF through some of it until the Cowboys are up. Wouldn't surprise me if the NFL starts opening day 3 of the draft with a performance by Lady Gaga/Justin Bieber or a fashion show by the Kardashians to improve the ratings.

 

[Risen Star]

The draft was clearly broken from many perspectives. As it was, you had to be a hardcore fan to watch it. What sort of major event starts at 9 am on the West Coast on a Saturday morning? Very little TV revenue there. If you aren't making money off something that can make money, it is broke.

You must have lived in a fantasy world where the draft wasn't getting more and more popular each and every year prior to the move to primetime.

The NFL Draft became an event long before the abomination set up you see today. It's horrible and watered down for the casual fan.

 

[AbeBeta]

You must have lived in a fantasy world where the draft wasn't getting more and more popular each and every year prior to the move to primetime.

The NFL Draft became an event long before the abomination set up you see today. It's horrible and watered down for the casual fan.

More and more popular should equate to greater revenue for the TV rights. You are living in a fantasy world if you think that selling ads at 9 am West Coast time on a Saturday is particularly profitable compared to East Coast Prime time.

Horrible and watered down for the casual fan? Faster picking and Prime Time for most of the first round. That plays directly to the casual fan. That's how you get 20 million viewers for the first round. You certainly didn't see that on Saturday mornings.

 

[Risen Star]

More and more popular should equate to greater revenue for the TV rights. You are living in a fantasy world if you think that selling ads at 9 am West Coast time on a Saturday is particularly profitable compared to East Coast Prime time.

Horrible and watered down for the casual fan? Faster picking and Prime Time for most of the first round. That plays directly to the casual fan. That's how you get 20 million viewers for the first round. You certainly didn't see that on Saturday mornings.

Don't move the goal posts. I didn't say the ratings would match primetime. I said the NFL draft became a huge event with bigger and bigger ratings every year under the old set up. So it was not in need of fixing, which is what you tried to claim and hoped I bought it.

Yes. The casual fan. The whiner who couldn't tolerate the lengthy clock and slow moving of the draft. The simpleton who doesn't realize that there's a lot going on while he's watching the clock tick. If you don't like it, don't watch. But apparently more and more people liked it, as evidenced by the growth of the draft long before the move to primetime. Long before Roger Goodell took over and began his power trip.

 

[AbeBeta]

Don't move the goal posts. I didn't say the ratings would match primetime. I said the NFL draft became a huge event with bigger and bigger ratings every year under the old set up. So it was not in need of fixing, which is what you tried to claim and hoped I bought it.

Yes. The casual fan. The whiner who couldn't tolerate the lengthy clock and slow moving of the draft. The simpleton who doesn't realize that there's a lot going on while he's watching the clock tick. If you don't like it, don't watch. But apparently more and more people liked it, as evidenced by the growth of the draft long before the move to primetime. Long before Roger Goodell took over and began his power trip.

Clearly not big enough.

You don't understand the NFL is a business. Businesses look to create new opportunities for revenue. Here they had a popular event that they clearly could make a ton more money on and weren't. Only a terribly stupid business person leaves a stone like that unturned.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Clearly not big enough.

You don't understand the NFL is a business. Businesses look to create new opportunities for revenue. Here they had a popular event that they clearly could make a ton more money on and weren't. Only a terribly stupid business person leaves a stone like that unturned.

I think most people on this board understand that the NFL is a business. That's just not a factual statement IMO. This may work or it may not, there is no guarantee either way. Things have happened in the past where the sole called experts believed certain moves would turn out to be good ones when the reality was that they proved to be poor decisions after all.

I understand the business aspects of it all but there really is no guarantee that what the NFL thinks will happen will actually happen. The NFL has a very good thing going but they are slowly killing it IMO. A lot of moves that are not popular with the fans over recent years and while I do understand there are reasons, it still comes down to fan support. That's what makes all of these dollar bills flow.

 

[conner01]

i think bringing the top picks back the last day to meet and greet with the fans would be great

 

[AbeBeta]

I think most people on this board understand that the NFL is a business. That's just not a factual statement IMO. This may work or it may not, there is no guarantee either way. Things have happened in the past where the sole called experts believed certain moves would turn out to be good ones when the reality was that they proved to be poor decisions after all.

I understand the business aspects of it all but there really is no guarantee that what the NFL thinks will happen will actually happen. The NFL has a very good thing going but they are slowly killing it IMO. A lot of moves that are not popular with the fans over recent years and while I do understand there are reasons, it still comes down to fan support. That's what makes all of these dollar bills flow.

Sure -- the argument you are commenting on is why the league changed something that "wasn't broken" back when the moved the draft to Thursday.

Your "slowly killing it" argument holds no water -- TV viewing continues to increase. So much so that the new TV deal that kicks in for 2014 brings in almost 5 billion dollars. That's up 2 billion dollars.

You may not like various changes but it is clear that the changes that you think aren't popular have zero impact on viewing.

 

[Risen Star]

I think most people on this board understand that the NFL is a business. That's just not a factual statement IMO. This may work or it may not, there is no guarantee either way. Things have happened in the past where the sole called experts believed certain moves would turn out to be good ones when the reality was that they proved to be poor decisions after all.

I understand the business aspects of it all but there really is no guarantee that what the NFL thinks will happen will actually happen. The NFL has a very good thing going but they are slowly killing it IMO. A lot of moves that are not popular with the fans over recent years and while I do understand there are reasons, it still comes down to fan support. That's what makes all of these dollar bills flow.

Nobody even questioned the NFL could milk more profit out of primetime. Of course they could. But this notion that the NFL draft was in need of fixing as if it was the Pro Bowl is laughable. It thrived under the old set up. It became a candidate for primetime under that set up.

 

[AbeBeta]

Nobody even questioned the NFL could milk more profit out of primetime. Of course they could. But this notion that the NFL draft was in need of fixing as if it was the Pro Bowl is laughable. It thrived under the old set up. It became a candidate for primetime under that set up.

Your argument doesn't really make sense - the event outgrew the previous set up. When you are leaving viewership and $ on the table because of when something is happening, it is broken. Obviously it isn't as broken as the Pro Bowl, no all start event in pro sports is that screwed up.

 

[Risen Star]

Your argument doesn't really make sense - the event outgrew the previous set up. When you are leaving viewership and $ on the table because of when something is happening, it is broken. Obviously it isn't as broken as the Pro Bowl, no all start event in pro sports is that screwed up.

Yes, my argument that the NFL Draft became a spectacle under the old set up with growing ratings every year and the NFL merely made a money move to primetime to reap the rewards of it doesn't make sense.

But your argument of the NFL Draft being in trouble and in need of fixing, as if it's a dying ratings nightmare like the pro bowl, now that makes some sense.

Thank God Roger Goodell saved the NFL Draft from the extinction it was headed toward. Or something.

 

[AbeBeta]

Yes, my argument that the NFL Draft became a spectacle under the old set up with growing ratings every year and the NFL merely made a money move to primetime to reap the rewards of it doesn't make sense.

But your argument of the NFL Draft being in trouble and in need of fixing, as if it's a dying ratings nightmare like the pro bowl, now that makes some sense.

Thank God Roger Goodell saved the NFL Draft from the extinction it was headed toward. Or something.

Again -- clearly if you have a major event, it is stupid to have it on TV at 9am PST. The draft was nowhere near as popular as it could have been because of that scheduling.

Of course, you have it in your head that Goodell is an idiot so you don't have the room for any form of reasonable analysis.

 

[Risen Star]

Again -- clearly if you have a major event, it is stupid to have it on TV at 9am PST. The draft was nowhere near as popular as it could have been because of that scheduling.

Of course, you have it in your head that Goodell is an idiot so you don't have the room for any form of reasonable analysis.

You've changed your stance from a struggling event in need of a fix to more popular on primetime.

Just say you threw that out there hoping nobody would call you on it. Or you were just blissfully unaware of how popular the NFL Draft was long before the move to primetime.

The games start at 10am on the west coast. Are they struggling events in need of a fix too or would they just be more popular in primetime?

Goodell is the worst commissioner this league has ever seen by a country mile.

 

[AbeBeta]

You've changed your stance from a struggling event in need of a fix to more popular on primetime.

Just say you threw that out there hoping nobody would call you on it. Or you were just blissfully unaware of how popular the NFL Draft was long before the move to primetime.

The games start at 10am on the west coast. Are they struggling events in need of a fix too or would they just be more popular in primetime?

Goodell is the worst commissioner this league has ever seen by a country mile.

No, I haven't changed my stance. Something being successful in the past is irrelevant. You are failing if you are not making it as popular as it can possibly be.

And again -- you let your Goodell hate color your evaluation.

Games do start at 10 am on the West Coast. You obviously could not move every game into Primetime as you would then make each Sunday night a regional game rather than a single big game. Your "example" is one in which a change would actually reduce viewership.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Goodell is the worst commissioner this league has ever seen by a country mile.

:fact:

 

[AbeBeta]

:fact:

AGENDA Alert

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Why would I have an agenda against Roger Goodell? I didn't know him from Adam when he got the job. I just know I don't like a lot of his ideas. Most of them, actually.