Drug suspension = No Pro Bowl

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According to ESPN this morning (NO LINK) the NFL is considering that anyone suspended for any drug testing failure, will be automatically eliminated from not only Pro Bowl consideration, but ANY off season award.

A step in the right direction I believe.
 

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THAT is the way it should be. And also, that any incentives/bonus's that are based on making the pro bowl, etc are also forfeited if caught being a druggie.
 

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If it comes to pass, I'm sure it'll be labeled the 'Merriman Rule'.

Kind of nice to have a rule named for someone other than a Cowboy.
 

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This is actually one thing that Theismann said that I agreed with.....think he said it a while back and I actually thought it was a good idea.
 

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Now and then he can say something intelligent. NOW AND THEN.
He is one Domer that I have hated for a long time; just always grated on me.
 

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I think that isn't a good rule at all. So you saying you going to count the players that probably already got things together and going in the right direction can't go to the pro bowl. You taking Hall Of Fame credibility away from players. That's unfair. We do have a receiver that's trying to make it in the hall of fame, not saying this have anything to do with it but Cowboys had players like that.

I just believe who every performs the best gets in regardless of drug test suspension or not. Don't take potential credibility away from the players.
 

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RealCowboyfan;1314630 said:
I think that isn't a good rule at all. So you saying you going to count the players that probably already got things together and going in the right direction can't go to the pro bowl. You taking Hall Of Fame credibility away from players. That's unfair. We do have a receiver that's trying to make it in the hall of fame, not saying this have anything to do with it but Cowboys had players like that.

I just believe who every performs the best gets in regardless of drug test suspension or not. Don't take potential credibility away from the players.

No, the player is taking things away from himself. They are the ones who chose to take something that is against NFL policy. Not only that, they are the ones that chose to get caught doing it. Plus it is only for that season. It doesn't mean that the player can't get things together and going in the right direction in other seasons.

I don't like an all encompassing rule that says all drug use. I much rather let it stick to just performance enhancement drugs, but that is just me.

Irvin is very deserving of getting to the HOF. I don't think his off field problems should be held against him that much because other than missing 5 games in 1996, he didn't miss any other time due to his indiscretions. Missing those 5 games hurt Dallas a lot that 1996 season. They went 2-3 without Irvin. His presence could have been the difference in those 3 losses and instead of 10-6, the team could have been 13-3 and the second seed for the playoffs.

That does take away from Irvin's HOF consideration because he hurt his team, but in the end he did so much to help his team and Dallas has 3 SB trophies to show for it. His contributions far out way his negatives and that is the way he should be judged.

That goes for any player who screws up. I wonder if Cris Carter will be scrutinized as much as Irvin when he is eligible for HOF consideration. He is deserving of the honor, but he had his off field issues as well.
 

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RealCowboyfan;1314630 said:
I think that isn't a good rule at all. So you saying you going to count the players that probably already got things together and going in the right direction can't go to the pro bowl. You taking Hall Of Fame credibility away from players. That's unfair. We do have a receiver that's trying to make it in the hall of fame, not saying this have anything to do with it but Cowboys had players like that.

I just believe who every performs the best gets in regardless of drug test suspension or not. Don't take potential credibility away from the players.

For that season they test positive, yes. It didn't say forever. And I'm not taking any credibility from anyone....they're doing it to themselves.

Do tell us how you can take credibility from a cheater.
 

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RealCowboyfan;1314630 said:
I think that isn't a good rule at all. So you saying you going to count the players that probably already got things together and going in the right direction can't go to the pro bowl. You taking Hall Of Fame credibility away from players. That's unfair. We do have a receiver that's trying to make it in the hall of fame, not saying this have anything to do with it but Cowboys had players like that.

I just believe who every performs the best gets in regardless of drug test suspension or not. Don't take potential credibility away from the players.

Big difference between Performance Enhancement drugs and Coke ......

why is that so hard for some people to understand? Coke does not add muscle mass .......
 

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jackrussell;1314604 said:
According to ESPN this morning (NO LINK) the NFL is considering that anyone suspended for any drug testing failure, will be automatically eliminated from not only Pro Bowl consideration, but ANY off season award.

A step in the right direction I believe.

This is an excellent step in the right direction for the new commish.
 

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not gonna happen. maybe for performance enhancing drugs but not for a failed drug test. that would violate the cba. the first failed drug test is not suppose to be made public so if they where banned from the pro bowl it would have to be made public. now steroids are a different program and the first test is an automatic suspension and that should make you inelegible for the pro bowl but a failed drug test is a bit different and will never happen
 

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What about conduct suspensions? It would seem that if a player has a 1 game suspension for a domestic violence incident then he should be out too.

There will be a big stumbling block here. The union will likely oppose this as it may violate the current CBA regarding penalties for suspension. Many players have bonus clauses for making the probowl -- and a reasonable argument could be made that not allowing these players to the probowl penalizes these guys to a greater extent than agreed upon.
 

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jackrussell;1314604 said:
According to ESPN this morning (NO LINK) the NFL is considering that anyone suspended for any drug testing failure, will be automatically eliminated from not only Pro Bowl consideration, but ANY off season award.

A step in the right direction I believe.

:bravo:

As a parent of a son whose dream is to one day play in the NFL, I welcome this rule.

It is a very solid example that can be pointed to (without having to lecture or preach) as a consequence of substance abuse.

I could talk until I'm blue in the face about this stuff, but if I point to Merriman, and then state that his substance abuse will keep him out of the Pro Bowl this year, it will make more impact on my son than a thousand lectures or warnings.

While I will not ever yield in trying to convince my kids to stay away from this stuff, it is comforting to have an organization like the NFL (that knows that these players are role models for kids, like it or not), reinforcing the values that we try to pass on to the young ones.
 

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If the morons in the players union oppose this, one should tell them to take one look at the mess baseball is in and ask them" Do you want to be testifying before congress as well?"
 

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jackrussell;1314604 said:
According to ESPN this morning (NO LINK) the NFL is considering that anyone suspended for any drug testing failure, will be automatically eliminated from not only Pro Bowl consideration, but ANY off season award.

A step in the right direction I believe.

they are still a day late and a dollar short
 

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conner1 said:
the first failed drug test is not suppose to be made public so if they where banned from the pro bowl it would have to be made public

They specifically stated 'suspension due to failed drug test', so since a first failed test does not require a suspension, I'm guessing it doesn't apply.

And I also think they're looking more at perfromance enhancing drugs.
 

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I would love the rule.

You want to cheat, get suspended a few games, lose a paycheck...yet still get in the media and act like you don't know why you did not win Defensive MVP...maybe this will be a wakeup call to some players...because it sure seems as if Merriman did not get it yet...and he is STILL going to the Pro_bowl.

Hey..you cheated...here we will vote you into the pro-bowl.

Wow.

No post season awards...I like it.
 

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The NFL says it will tighten up their policy on steroids and use newer-high tech tests.

Also... players who fail a test will not be eligible for the Pro Bowl for that season.


EDIT: Per "Around the Horn."

Link somewhere anyone?

Oops. Repost. Only 10 hours later :)
 
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