Dumbest thing I heard this weekend

[joseephuss]

While discussing the Dallas Cowboys, Chris Berman chimed in that Dallas had 13 pro-bowlers. He then mentioned that his friend Marv Levy told him that he preferred Superbowl players over pro-bowl players.

I thought this was extremely silly. First it makes the assumption that Dallas can not win the Superbowl. Second, is that Marv Levy never won a Superbowl. I like Coach Levy and respect the hell out of him, but he never got his team over the top. Third, since when does having pro-bowl players a bad thing?




I guess Bill Parcells really did like Drew Henson. He drafted Chad Henne out of Michigan. Pretty much the same QB in my opinion. Henne will not make a good pro.

 

[Doomsday101]

While discussing the Dallas Cowboys, Chris Berman chimed in that Dallas had 13 pro-bowlers. He then mentioned that his friend Marv Levy told him that he preferred Superbowl players over pro-bowl players.

I thought this was extremely silly. First it makes the assumption that Dallas can not win the Superbowl. Second, is that Marv Levy never won a Superbowl. I like Coach Levy and respect the hell out of him, but he never got his team over the top. Third, since when does having pro-bowl players a bad thing?




I guess Bill Parcells really did like Drew Henson. He drafted Chad Henne out of Michigan. Pretty much the same QB in my opinion. Henne will not make a good pro.

I guess I took Berman as meaning having pro bowl players are fine and dandy but the object is to win the SB and in that regard the Cowboys are going to have to be mentally tougher than they have been. We have the talent no doubt in my mind but can this team stay focused and mentally strong to take it the distance? So his statement did make sense to me

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Yeah it's fine. The statement doesn't bother me.

 

[tyke1doe]

Levy didn't say "Super Bowl winning players." Just "Super Bowl players."

He did get his team there four times in a row. That's a tremendous accomplishment. He just ran into better teams (with the exception of the Giants) when he got there. That's no fault of his.

And I agree. The object is to get to the Super Bowl, not brag or become "puffed up" because you have a Pro-bowl roster.

 

[Bill Wooten]

While discussing the Dallas Cowboys, Chris Berman chimed in that Dallas had 13 pro-bowlers. He then mentioned that his friend Marv Levy told him that he preferred Superbowl players over pro-bowl players.

I thought this was extremely silly. First it makes the assumption that Dallas can not win the Superbowl. Second, is that Marv Levy never won a Superbowl. I like Coach Levy and respect the hell out of him, but he never got his team over the top. Third, since when does having pro-bowl players a bad thing?




I guess Bill Parcells really did like Drew Henson. He drafted Chad Henne out of Michigan. Pretty much the same QB in my opinion. Henne will not make a good pro.

A word of advice. Don't listen to anything Berman has to say.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

While discussing the Dallas Cowboys, Chris Berman chimed in that Dallas had 13 pro-bowlers. He then mentioned that his friend Marv Levy told him that he preferred Superbowl players over pro-bowl players.

I thought this was extremely silly. First it makes the assumption that Dallas can not win the Superbowl. Second, is that Marv Levy never won a Superbowl. I like Coach Levy and respect the hell out of him, but he never got his team over the top. Third, since when does having pro-bowl players a bad thing?




I guess Bill Parcells really did like Drew Henson. He drafted Chad Henne out of Michigan. Pretty much the same QB in my opinion. Henne will not make a good pro.

For me it was with the 22nd pick the Dallas Cowboys select rb Arkansas Felix Jones.

The comment by boomer stood out to me also i didn't like it one bit but kind of wrote it off since he works for BSPN.

 

[Hostile]

I gotta go with something Berman said too. In discussing the Patriots choosing Jerod Mayo.

"Sometime this year a Patriots opponent is going to be flagged for holding the Mayo."



Groan.

 

[tyke1doe]

I gotta go with something Berman said too. In discussing the Patriots choosing Jerod Mayo.

"Sometime this year a Patriots opponent is going to be flagged for holding the Mayo."



Groan.

Wow. That was really bad.

 

[JWitten]

While discussing the Dallas Cowboys, Chris Berman chimed in ...

Right there is all I needed to hear to realize that I made the right decision in watching the draft on the NFL Network. This guy has turned into a moron.

Eisen, Mayock and the crew did a great job this year.

 

[Stash]

Berman has always been jealous of the Cowboys.

His 'two teams' were San Francisco and Buffalo.

Imagine how hard it must have been for him to see the Cowboys beat the 49'ers in the playoffs en route to beating the Bills in the Super Bowl?

Sadly, he's never forgiven us.....

 

[speedkilz88]

Levy didn't say "Super Bowl winning players." Just "Super Bowl players."

He did get his team there four times in a row. That's a tremendous accomplishment. He just ran into better teams (with the exception of the Giants) when he got there. That's no fault of his.

And I agree. The object is to get to the Super Bowl, not brag or become "puffed up" because you have a Pro-bowl roster.

No, the object is to win the Super Bowl.

 

[skinsscalper]

I gotta go with something Berman said too. In discussing the Patriots choosing Jerod Mayo.

"Sometime this year a Patriots opponent is going to be flagged for holding the Mayo."



Groan.

His co-horts kind of groaned also, Hos. To top it off after he said it he said "Someone had to say it." No Chris, no one had to say it, and you look all that much more stupid for doing it.

As to the Pro Bowl vs. Super Bowl players comment I agree. And Levy was spot on. Pro Bowl players are stat guys that have been impressive during the earliest part of the season. Super Bowl players are a cohesive unit that perform when it matters most. That's not to say that guys that go to the Pro Bowl won't be in the Super Bowl, but a Super Bowl team is loaded with guys that don't sniff the Pro Bowl yet do their jobs when it counts. I'll take 53 of those please.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

You know I heard that and had the same immediate reaction you did.

But on further reflection, it seems to me that Levy obviously made the comment referring back to his heyday in Buffalo. The Bills had a ton of Pro Bowl players in those days but never had any SB (obvious inference winning SB ) players.

I think Levy was saying he would have traded having a bunch of Pro Bowl guys for guys that could have won Sbs. Not dissing his own team but saying they all (including the players) would have traded Pro Bowls for SB wins.

Berman was just making the comparison to our team and saying we have a lot of Pro Bowlers and that's nice, but if you don't win SBs it doesn't really matter.

I can't argue that point with him.

This year is the time for our extremely talented, but immature team, to grow up and win a championship.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

if you have listened/followed Berman over the years...he hates the Cowboys...and that was his way of getting in a cheap shot in

 

[Boyzmamacita]

What bothers me is the implication that the Dallas Cowboys are so stupid that they don't know that winning the Super Bowl is what it's all about. They've won more SBs than any other frickin' franchise, for chrissakes. Any other team would be praised for having a record number of Pro Bowlers. Dallas gets villified for it by some of the very people who voted them into it. It's bull.

 

[superpunk]

None of you should have watched ESPN's broadcast. I tuned into it a couple times during NFLN commercials, and everytime was blown away by how awful their coverage was.

For starters, they had too many idiotic interviews with people who noone cared about. And the interviews went on too long.

Second of all, who knows what Keyshawn was thinking before putting that ensemble together. He clearly got dressed in the dark.

Third, in their ever growing quest to bring entertainment, they fell far behind on draft choices. They focused far too much on the QBs that were taken, the QBs that might be taken, the QBs who may have been born on that very day, and ended up getting 5-6 picks behind, and then hastily making them up by gving 20 second blurbs on players you actually wanted to know about, so they could go back to talking about when Chad Henne and Brian Brohm might get picked.

The NFL Network kept up with the picks as they were being made, at least until really late in the draft. Mike Mayock is infinitely more interesting than Mel Kiper, whether you agree with him or not.

The only thing I hated about the NFLN broadcast was the black guy who couldn't stop smiling. He hogged the conversational spotlight, and was often seen shushing his cohosts. He just was really fake and annoying. Even Jamie Dukes was very entertaining and good up there. If they could replace Eisen with Wingo, it would be perfect.

Don't watch ESPN. Ever. It's tripe. It's so bad that I gave up watching it in full HD, to watch NFLN in fake HD.

 

[skinsscalper]

None of you should have watched ESPN's broadcast. I tuned into it a couple times during NFLN commercials, and everytime was blown away by how awful their coverage was.

For starters, they had too many idiotic interviews with people who noone cared about. And the interviews went on too long.

Second of all, who knows what Keyshawn was thinking before putting that ensemble together. He clearly got dressed in the dark.

Third, in their ever growing quest to bring entertainment, they fell far behind on draft choices. They focused far too much on the QBs that were taken, the QBs that might be taken, the QBs who may have been born on that very day, and ended up getting 5-6 picks behind, and then hastily making them up by gving 20 second blurbs on players you actually wanted to know about, so they could go back to talking about when Chad Henne and Brian Brohm might get picked.

The NFL Network kept up with the picks as they were being made, at least until really late in the draft. Mike Mayock is infinitely more interesting than Mel Kiper, whether you agree with him or not.

The only thing I hated about the NFLN broadcast was the black guy who couldn't stop smiling. He hogged the conversational spotlight, and was often seen shushing his cohosts. He just was really fake and annoying. Even Jamie Dukes was very entertaining and good up there. If they could replace Eisen with Wingo, it would be perfect.

Don't watch ESPN. Ever. It's tripe. It's so bad that I gave up watching it in full HD, to watch NFLN in fake HD.

What's even funnier is the fact that I watched ESPN for most of the second day and I have to say the day two crew was leaps and bounds better than the day one crew.

Wingo, Carter, Kiper, and Mortensen (there was someone else, I think, but it escapes me) were so much more refreshing to watch than Berman, Young, Meshawn, Kiper and Mort. They were so much more engaging and seemed a lot less arrogant about their "football knowledge". It was straight forward without the "look at me" fluff. The biggest factor was the subtraction of Berman. That guys schtick is soooooooooooooo old. Give it up Chris. It was cool when I was 17 and it was atleast a little fresh. Now, it's corny and you look like an idiot.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

they were just hating on our success

 

[Doomsday101]

What bothers me is the implication that the Dallas Cowboys are so stupid that they don't know that winning the Super Bowl is what it's all about. They've won more SBs than any other frickin' franchise, for chrissakes. Any other team would be praised for having a record number of Pro Bowlers. Dallas gets villified for it by some of the very people who voted them into it. It's bull.

The Cowboys have won championships, these player on this team have not. Dallas has talent but what hurt them more than anything were mental breakdowns. 12 flags that hurt us in the playoffs, guys like Crayton not running the rout out at the end vs the G-men or a simple catch that could have changed the game that is dropped. This team has to get stronger mentally and have better focus if we expect a SB. Getting to the Pro Bowl is great and show talent but you need smarts as well to win championships and that is what Berman was getting at or at least how I took the comment.

 

[Nav22]

Berman sounded stoned all day Saturday.

My favorite moment of his was after Steve Young mentioned that Jon Kitna is the best QB in the NFC North, it took an additional 20 seconds to register with Berman. He awkwardly stumbled through the names of the other starters in the division before agreeing with Young.