Dwayne Harris 3rd WR?

[xwalker]

Ogletree will have to play special teams or he will not be active on game day.

Also, one of my 1st observations from training camp was the stark difference between the body language between Ogletree and Harris.

It appeared as if Ogletree didn't want to be practicing. He reminded me of Marty B. from the Hard Knocks episodes 2 years ago.

Harris appeared to be very focused and was one of the 1st players on the field. He also did some extra work on the side.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Yep, this happens all the time. Come on - how often does a 1 yard pass turn into a 20 yard wide running lane to the end zone 76 yards away? It was good that it happened, and a nice play for Harris, but things like that are very rare and very flukey.

76 yard runs don't happen all the time. But key plays and major 3rd downs are converted which later turn into TD drives when you have a slot WR who can read blitzes, know his hot routes and can find the soft spots in the zones and is at the exact place he's supposed to be at the exact moment he's supposed to be there. Ask the Patriots. Slot plays are mainly made from the neck up, very few plays are made from the slot through some dynamic feat of athletic ability.

 

[Modus]

I don't have to read through ten pages to know that Mr. Harris outplayed Ogletree last night.

If he can turn a five yard slant into a seventy yard touchdown, then I would rather have a YAC-Monster than a deep threat because YAC is gravy on the biscuit.

Terrell Owens, Miles Austin, Chad Johnson, Steve Smith (Eagles), and a great numerous other receivers are as such and they find constant success.

The deep ball gets a lot of teams in trouble. It will for us because the Eagles got loaded in the secondary. We're going to need YAC to move the ball because launching it just may not cut it anymore.

It's nice to know that we have deep ballers in Bryant, Austin, and Ogletree but I'm more secure in who we have that can catch, run, and create downfield opportunity instead of counting on one to be there.

Props to you, Dwayne Harris.

 

[Stautner]

76 yard runs don't happen all the time. But key plays and major 3rd downs are converted which later turn into TD drives when you have a slot WR who can read blitzes, know his hot routes and can find the soft spots in the zones. Ask the Patriots. Slot plays are mainly made from the neck up, very few plays are made from the slot through some dynamic feat of athletic ability.

You are talking about something different than I am. I'm not sure where you got the impression that I was talking down Harris ability to find soft spots or run routes, but my point was simply that the stats weren't the telling thing about Harris because 76 yards of the stats were largely a fluke. Yes, it started with a good read, but having a 76 yard long and 25 yard wide running lane is a fluke anyway you want to cut it.

The fact is I have talked highly of Harris being where he was supposed to be and catching everything thrown to him, and my point simply is and has been that is the better indication of what he accomplished last night than the inflated yardage stat.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Harris looks like he has good instincts to play the slot, he will take that position from Ogletree eventually. I don't recall them sending Ogletree on many long routes to take advantage of his speed. It was always those little WR screen passes.

Good observation.

 

[garyv]

Everyone was asking me what I thought about the Cowboys Draft afterwards and I stated that I loved the Tyron Smith pick but honestly not excited until we picked DWayne Harris because he will be our 3rd Receiver. I was even surprised we got him so late and really thought he was more of a 3rd Rounder that slipped. I have told everyone since the Draft that Dez Bryant, Miles Austin and DWayne Harris are 3 really nice Receivers to build around with. I actually think we keep 5 WR: Dez, Miles, Harris, Ogletree & Radaway.

 

[DFWJC]

Everyone was asking me what I thought about the Cowboys Draft afterwards and I stated that I loved the Tyron Smith pick but honestly not excited until we picked DWayne Harris because he will be our 3rd Receiver. I was even surprised we got him so late and really thought he was more of a 3rd Rounder that slipped. I have told everyone since the Draft that Dez Bryant, Miles Austin and DWayne Harris are 3 really nice Receivers to build around with. I actually think we keep 5 WR: Dez, Miles, Harris, Ogletree & Radaway.

I think about half of this board liked that pick.
Of course, that means there were half that did not.
But in any case, let's all of us not break our hands patting ourselves on the back just yet.
So far, so good!

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Maybe in jerra's world, this guy is ready for the ROH.

However . . .

Harris got reps because the big dogs were not playing on offense.

He played largely agin the opposing team's backups.

The first preseason game rarely catapults an undrafted rookie to the roster.

But Harris will certainly get a second and third look this preseason.

 

[Wayne02]

Maybe in jerra's world, this guy is ready for the ROH.

However . . .

Harris got reps because the big dogs were not playing on offense.

He played largely agin the opposing team's backups.

The first preseason game rarely catapults an undrafted rookie to the roster.

But Harris will certainly get a second and third look this preseason.

Harris is not an UDFA, Radway is, and I think they both make the roster this year.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Maybe in jerra's world, this guy is ready for the ROH.

However . . .

Harris got reps because the big dogs were not playing on offense.

He played largely agin the opposing team's backups.

The first preseason game rarely catapults an undrafted rookie to the roster.

But Harris will certainly get a second and third look this preseason.

Gimme, don't dump that manure in my yard.

He played back ups, but he is a 6th round pick.

He is not expected to be the number one receiver. We're talking about playing him in the slot.

If yew could pull yer head out of yer Yanmar for one second and read how this stuff works when we discuss things so you can understand we're not talking about him being undrafted. We picked him in the 6th round. And fer a gud reasons.

 

[Stautner]

Gimme, don't dump that manure in my yard.

He played back ups, but he is a 6th round pick.

He is not expected to be the number one receiver. We're talking about playing him in the slot.

If yew could pull yer head out of yer Yanmar for one second and read how this stuff works when we discuss things so you can understand we're not talking about him being undrafted. We picked him in the 6th round. And fer a gud reasons.

But realistically it does matter because for him to show he belongs the standard can't be how can can do against others drafted as low as he was, it has to be how he can do against NFL players. That said, this was a good first time out for him, and a strong step toward making the team.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Garrett likes running those quick screens, hooks, and the like for his WR. Harris is ideal for that. That long TD was on the play call more than anyone. The huge hole was there because Rucker sealed off the pursuit and Harris was able to outrun the rest of the defense.

Garrett can use a guy like Harris within his system very effectively. Right kind of guy.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

But realistically it does matter because for him to show he belongs the standard can't be how can can do against others drafted as low as he was, it has to be how he can do against NFL players. That said, this was a good first time out for him, and a strong step toward making the team.

He was dominant against those guys. Poopoo all you want but there is good reason to be high on him.

 

[zrinkill]

an undrafted rookie to the roster.

NFL Draft: 2011 / Round: 6 / Pick: 176

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

But realistically it does matter because for him to show he belongs the standard can't be how can can do against others drafted as low as he was, it has to be how he can do against NFL players. That said, this was a good first time out for him, and a strong step toward making the team.

Yeah, I know I know. I just think draft position doesn't matter. AOA was drafted in the 4th...still haven't seen a thing from him.

I never doubt the underdog simply because of their draft position. I need more reasons than that. Because I can give you reasons why it shouldn't be like that.

 

[Mattb_25]

I'd give Harris as much of a chance at the #3 WR as I would KO. What exactly has KO done to give us confidence in his ability to actually play smart and hard consistently? If anything, Harris plays like a prototypical slot receiver. I'm not ready to deem Harris the 3rd WR by any means, but I'll wait until all of the preseason is over with before I shoot down the idea of him being our #3 receiver.

 

[RealCowboyfan]

Im not suprise about DeWayne Harris, he was like that at Eastern Carolina. He's a wide receiver version of Chris Johnson.

 

[Stautner]

He was dominant against those guys. Poopoo all you want but there is good reason to be high on him.

Dominant is such an overused word - he had a very nice first game, and there is reason to be encouraged, but dominant does not apply.

Yeah, I know I know. I just think draft position doesn't matter. AOA was drafted in the 4th...still haven't seen a thing from him.

I never doubt the underdog simply because of their draft position. I need more reasons than that. Because I can give you reasons why it shouldn't be like that.

Draft position does matter, but it doesn't tell everything. We all know low draft picks can succeed (Crayton, Ratliff), and high draft picks can fail (Carpenter), but the odds are way higher that a high draft pick sill succeed over a low draft pick. I think your point is really that once a player is in the fold it still comes down to who can perform and show they belong on the field, and that is true.

But what we were talking about is competing against an entire defense of low round or undrafted players, and that very certainly does matter. That is unquestionabley a far cry from actually competing against a real NFL defense. What Harris did was take a nice step and earn himself some points, and I'm looking forward to seeing more of him.

 

[Stautner]

I'd give Harris as much of a chance at the #3 WR as I would KO. What exactly has KO done to give us confidence in his ability to actually play smart and hard consistently? If anything, Harris plays like a prototypical slot receiver. I'm not ready to deem Harris the 3rd WR by any means, but I'll wait until all of the preseason is over with before I shoot down the idea of him being our #3 receiver.

You may be right. I hate to start talking about a kid who just played his first NFL preseason game like that, but the reality is the competition for the No. 3 WR spot just isn't that strong, which gives him a chance.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Dominant is such an overused word - he had a very nice first game, and there is reason to be encouraged, but dominant does not apply.

Its not overused when coupled with 5 catches 127 yards and 2 TD in 3 quarters of football.